Supplements

TommyKnocker · 22-06-2011 11:14am

gsxr1 wrote: »

I have been thinking of buying some whey .
I am trying to lose a little weight and tone up with weights machines.

There is so much reading in this one thread its hard to find.

My question is.

Instead of using whey shakes.

Could I not just drink a pint of low fat milk and get similar results in recovery?

No expert, but IMHO is losing weight is your goal, then there should be no reason to take shakes, unless for convenience.

Whey supplements which are not sold as weight gainers are mostly low in fat and carbs. A pint of low fat milk would provide circa 24g of carbs. Not a lot I will grant you, but just be aware of it.

Do you know how many calories you require each day/week to maintain you current weight (maintenance calorie figure)? Are you concerned with or have you give any thought to the macro nutrient (Protein, Fats, Carbs) breakdown of your diet?

At a very basic level you should know you maintenance calorie figure, so that you can create a daily/weekly calorie deficit to facilitate weight loss.

Then resistance training and eating an appropriate amount of protein, should encourage you body to retain lean muscle and dip into your fat reserves for the extra energy required to bridge the deficit.

BadCharlie · 22-06-2011 8:29pm

marathonic wrote: »

What about 'best before' dates?.

Have until 2013 for mine

cc87 · 22-06-2011 9:07pm

deadanonymau5 wrote: »

No they wont. Theres tons of popular/good brands in the supp industry? and Optimum was acquired in 2008 and prices havent increased

A number of brands and websites have sent emails out about price increases happening soon if not already.
There have been a number of threads on it already.

AFAIK, the reason is the raw ingredients for whey protein are becoming more scarce due to increased demand which is driving the price up.

Competition or no competition in the supplement industry, the price is on the increase

_fact_ · 22-06-2011 9:15pm

Dunno if this is meant to go here,so moderator move/delete as appropriate.

First time I've post on boards.ie,been creeping long enough so thought it time to give my 2 cents worth.

Sites for buying supplements

http://www.universalnutrition.ie/
Universal was the first store I bought my supplements from, always sound in the shop and happy to offer advise/guidance on your supplement requirements.

I don't live near the shop so was bit of a trek, website was a gift. Brilliant selection, competitive prices and free shaker on orders over €75 and free delivery.

Then I started shopping around and searching for alternatives. The majority were sites from the USA and didn't ship to Ireland.

Found this gem, lads based down in Kerry, boi;

http://www.hpnutrition.net/store/

Initally when I bought from HP it was free delivery on orders over €75 now its €80, you don't get any free shakers but they are usually good and throw in some samples.

They have more promotions than Universal and offer better stacks and discount on bulk. Only downside is that delivery is not always on time, usually +/- 3 days.

Then I looked across the ocean. None of the sites could ever compete with HP and Universal, would always work out more expensive with shipping costs/exchange rates.

Then found Dolphin Fitness.

http://www.dolphinfitness.co.uk/en/dolphin-fitness

Ordered on the Friday (2pm) and had my supplements by Tuesday 10am.
By far the most prompt delivery and the most competitively priced supplement website on the net.

Really wish I could keep the business in Ireland, but the difference is usually about €10/15 and it all adds up.

(Prices are based on ON Protein, Animal Paks and Jacked, generally these products +/- Creatine)

Sites for supplement reviews
http://supplementreviews.com/

This is the bible,nothing else matters as far as I'm concerned. Before I buy a product always consult this.

Well that's my 2 cents.

jugger0 · 23-06-2011 3:22am

Interesting, have used both of the Irish ones but have never heard of dolphin, whats the shipping price usually?

BadCharlie · 23-06-2011 7:34am

www.myprotein.co.uk
www.bulkpowders.co.uk/

will56 · 23-06-2011 8:40am

www.predatornutrition.co.uk
Good prices and a very large range of supplements. Sometimes ship free shakers depending on the order and put in samples for free too.
Very good customer service.
Deliverys by registered post with smaller orders which is handy.

_fact_ · 23-06-2011 9:22am

@jugger0
the shipping price varies on dolphin,the more you buy the cheaper it is
for example my last purchase was:
Nutrisport 90 Protein
Jacked
Reflex Creatine

cost:€71.17
shipping:€4.55

literally have to wait 48hrs and you have your products,brilliant service

@will56
had a look at that site,very well laid out.
but more expensive than dolphin,but the same products in a basket €76.54 before shipping

marathonic · 23-06-2011 9:38am

deadanonymau5 wrote: »

I never got any emails and I buy off a few sites. Links? Copy and paste the emails?

Most sites will just increase prices without warning. myProtein is one of the bigger ones that pre-announced the price increases which were significant - somewhere in the region of 15%.

xgtdec · 23-06-2011 9:53am

I get my Pak, Omega, CLA and PM from iherb, 2 days delivery fron the states and hasnt been stopped yet, think it works out as 15 quid delivery so with dolla to euro your getting the omega for free..may not alway be like that but on todays exchange rates its ok.

I get my casein and whey from SNI http://www.sportsnutritionireland.ie/

The shop is local and Jack that owns it works there and is always helpful with advice and throws in a few bits so i like to keep business there...they cant compete on the animal line so not a lot i can do there!!

cc87 · 23-06-2011 12:07pm

deadanonymau5 wrote: »

I never got any emails and I buy off a few sites. Links? Copy and paste the emails?

http://community.myprotein.com/content/increasing-whey-protein-prices-612/

RobAMerc · 23-06-2011 12:21pm

Hi

Does anyone have any info/reviews on NutriSport 90+ ?

Its coming in way cheaper than myprotein impact whey and the nutrition profile seems to stack up against it too taken at 50g per serving.

http://www.dolphinfitness.co.uk/en/nutrisport-90-protein-5kg/2645

thanks
Rob

_fact_ · 23-06-2011 12:35pm

whats the craic rob.

got it like 2 weeks ago.

just the basics:
take one scoop after workout and one scoop before bed.
cause its a whey/casein blend works well both directly after training and before you go to bed.
touch wood havnt had any dodgy gas off it,yet

mix ability = when compared to ON or Myofusion it is a lot thicker and froths up alot.
to combat this I usually put in 500ml water,consistency is malt-y almost horlicks like, to be honest takes a little getting used to but when you do lovely. its not sweet like some of the other proteins and tastes natural.
chocolate tastes good and as is the only one I have taken, would recommend it

i'm not a pro or anything like it,just hit the gym 3/4 times a week and this suits my needs down to the ground.

my brother is health freak and takes both ON whey and ON casein,he studies Health and Performance Science in UCD, so knows his stuff.
he is going to start taking Nutrisport once his ON runs out, because nutritionally its the same and works out a hell of a lot cheaper.
only thing is its missing a few BCAA's but you can make up for them with either Animal Pak or USP labs BCAA's

also Nutrisport can be used as a meal replacement,ehhh thats about the height of my knowledge of the product...hope it helps

keezer · 23-06-2011 10:28pm

Tbh, it dosent do much for me, then again red bull dose nothing

jugger0 · 24-06-2011 12:10am

Jack3d for me was great, but very very addicting.. also the tolerance thing is a pain in the ass too. Check out 1MR aswell its supposed to be class.

marathonic · 24-06-2011 12:15am

Haven't tried a pre-workout supplement before. I think coffee and oats will suit me fine until I can't raise the weights through alternative means - change of routine/diet.

Armedocr · 24-06-2011 1:10am

I hope you get some effect off it. I've never felt anything from pre work out supps Jack3d included

marathonic · 24-06-2011 1:29pm

For those of you buying whey, I've just had an email from myProtein saying they're now offering whey in four new flavours:

Banoffee | Mocha | Latte | Toffee

Gummy Panda · 24-06-2011 1:55pm

Only whey flavour I'd be interested in is peanut butter.

Apparently ON and a few others do that in US

aristo · 24-06-2011 2:36pm

Went to get some today and it has been banned here due to some ingredient:rolleyes:
meant the be reformulated and back soon but probably wont be as good

df1985 · 24-06-2011 4:28pm

where did you go can i ask?

Spunge · 24-06-2011 9:17pm

This stuff is a bit mad. Did feel very focused and psyched for lifting. And pushed really hard cycling.
The after-effects suck though, i feel a bit down and totally tired all day, like ive been doing meth or something (seriously).

Had a workout without it today, increased all my weights, and felt amazing afterwards, stim-free. The main reason i workout is to feel good, and taking this stuff complete gets rid of that aspect, so i dont like that at all.

Don't think this stuff is for me, but i see how it could be useful if you were after a long day at work and needed the extra boost/motivation.

UUJ_Lad · 24-06-2011 11:04pm

Having used noxplode and jack3d, I think the former gives more of a 'pump' (prob due to an abundance of the particular substance that does it, someone will know which exact one I'm sure), wheres jack3d certainly helps you become more focused and is a more subtle energy booster.

I am still unsure as to just how much of these products are indeed 'mental', but in my experienced jack3d is the better product - Cheaper too which always helps.

I wouldn't take it though anytime after the afternoon because it does keep you awake, and as someone pointed out - You will get one day where you are just completely running on empty at about 9pm, bed time stuff. I just take it first thing in morn because I go to gym before work.

Was always meaning to order the product 'Pulse' from myprotein, but it always seems to be out of stock whenever I am buying.

marathonic · 25-06-2011 12:49am

myProtein unflavoured 5kg of whey concentrate is €53.29. The flavoured is €71.29. That's a €18 difference.

Their flavdrops for flavouring the unflavoured whey are normally over €10 per 50ml bottle (enough for 100 servings according to their website). I've just read on another website that they're down to €1.29.

You can see them here.

Satanta · 25-06-2011 1:15pm

marathonic wrote: »

myProtein unflavoured 5kg of whey concentrate is €53.29. The flavoured is €71.29. That's a €18 difference.

Their flavdrops for flavouring the unflavoured whey are normally over €10 per 50ml bottle (enough for 100 servings according to their website). I've just read on another website that they're down to €1.29.

You can see them here.

Has anyone tried the unflavoured stuff? Taste isn't that important to me as it just gets chugged down anyway. But of it was rank then it might be difficult to get down when some oats are added

Dohnny Jepp · 25-06-2011 2:14pm

does anyone else get absolutely no benefit from jack3d? all my mates love it and rave about. So I bought it and feel nothing when i take it. . . .

_fact_ · 25-06-2011 2:53pm

Dohnny Jepp wrote: »

does anyone else get absolutely no benefit from jack3d? all my mates love it and rave about. So I bought it and feel nothing when i take it. . . .

because its a stimulant and caffeine based,if your a big tea/coffee drinker doesnt work that well.

so maybe cut out all caffeine for 2 weeks and then take it.

take it as directed and hit cardio for 5/10 minutes to get the blooding flowing,usually feel 'tingly' sensation then you know its working.

i dont get the pumped feeling unless i'm hitting the biceps/triceps.
just more focused when i'm training and can generally get at least 1/2 more reps.

i've cycled on and off it and can definately notice the difference when not taking it,could all be psychological though.

marathonic · 25-06-2011 3:07pm

Dohnny Jepp wrote: »

does anyone else get absolutely no benefit from jack3d? all my mates love it and rave about. So I bought it and feel nothing when i take it. . . .

I haven't tried it but I usually find the reviews on myProtein trustable enough (they're too big and reputable to be putting in false reviews and, if you read the reviews on BCAA powder, you'll see plenty complaining about a rotten taste).

If you're buying it and the flavdrops are still only 1.29, I'd add them to your order as that's pretty cheap. Supposedly, the Toffee is the nicest followed by rasberry and banana. Based on a review I've read from someone who's tried them all, chocolate and apple are the worst.

King of Kings · 25-06-2011 5:06pm

my mate gave me a serving of 1rm today.
nice blast for squating but not a nice come down - pretty much like the 4am comedown.

RobAMerc · 25-06-2011 8:02pm

lads - I add a big scoup of wheat bran to my morning shakes as it helps keep me regular.
Do you know if this is a reasonable substitute for waxy maize in my pwo shake?
I could just take it pwo rather than first thing.

ta

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