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Scam from Thailand? - my experience

  • 16-01-2014 12:50pm
    #1
    Registered Users Posts: 1


    A friend of mine, and his Thai girlfriend were caught today in a nasty and mean scam being operated by Nong Khai customs at the Laos border crossing. This is very similar to other reports from tourusts experiences at Bangkok airport. My friend informed me that he and his girlfriend were in Thailand, returning from a visa run to Laos. They had been informed by the duty free shops at Laos that they could bring back 400 cigarettes each into Thailand with no problem. This was incorrect as the allowance is 200 per person. My friend was confronted by customs in the car park, and he suspects that the customs officers already knew that the limit for cigarettes had been over exceeded since only he was pounced on. He and his Thai girlfriend were taken to the Nong Khai customs office where he was threatened with jail unless he paid 20,000 baht on the spot. This was calculated at approx 484 baht per packet of 20 cigarettes and he was told that this was on the full amount being carried, 4 cartons, not on the 2 cartons over the limit. They said that all of the cigarettes were his, ferrangs and none of them could be his girlfriends or her allowance. This is because the financial penalty for excess cigarettes is much higher for ferrangs than for Thai, and so the amount of the fine would be higher if all blame was attributed to him. After hours of painful negotiation the amount was reduced to 12,,000 baht which he had to pay or face going to court, and they confiscated three of the four cartons, not even leaving them with 2 cartons, one for each as per their allowance. Please be warned that this is a well rehearsed and well practiced scam designed to extract huge amounts of baht from ferrang and applies even if you only slightly exceed the customs allowance. You will not be told of your rights, or given any translation of what is going on in your own language, and my friend was taken away without being cautioned or read any rights. My friend was also threatened with police arrest, being held in custody, and a Court trial and possibly not being able to enter Thailand again.

    This is a scam in my opinion because:

    1. The amount of fine at 484 baht per packet over 200 cigarettes is ridiculously high, and it is unfair that the fine is four times higher for foreign visitors than they are for Thai people.(dual pricing is fairly common in Thailand)
    2. The duty free shops are misleading foreign visitors about their allowances, and then I summise mabe even tipping off the customs.
    3. In this case claiming that all the cigarettes were the foreign visitors and none of them his Thai girlfriends is deliberate manipulation to maximise the amount the ferrang is forced to pay in this trap.
    4. Too many cigarettes were confiscated, even the duty free allowance of 200 per person could not be retained.
    5. Initially they tried to extort an amount based on the entire quantity in his possession and not just the amount above the limit.


    My advice to any ferrang contemplating a visit to Thailand or in particular a Laos Visa run, or returning from Laos to Nong Khai would be to ensure that you do not cross into Thailand with one cigarette more than the 200 cigarette limit !!!!!


Comments

  • Registered Users Posts: 6,730 ✭✭✭ebbsy


    Been to Thailand 11 times. Lived there for a few years and did the visa runs.

    I am not sure why you would need to bring fags into Thailand, they are so cheap there. There are many documented cases of extortion in Thai customs. Never give them a reason to take the "tea money".

    Courts etc in Thailand only use Thai language. D'ont have a translator ? Tough titties.

    I am not being judgemental either way, that's the way it is over there.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,019 ✭✭✭carlmango11


    Exact same thing happened to my parents and they met people while there that had the exact same experience


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,730 ✭✭✭✭Fred Swanson


    This post has been deleted.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,629 ✭✭✭Aint Eazy Being Cheezy


    ?

    Foreigner


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,814 ✭✭✭dobsdave


    mightyvan wrote: »
    A friend of mine, and his Thai girlfriend .......

    You would think that the girlfriend would have been a little more help in the whole story...

    Either way crap experience.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 227 ✭✭Ed_Stephens


    Totally unfair to label Thailand the land of scams, yes there are scams that you can make yourself well aware off before you go. In any case it's easy to find out how much cigarettes you are allowed bring in to any country and 200 per person is practically a global constant. You broke the law and you got caught and now you scream scam? They can justify taking all of your cigarettes as since you are above the limit you are now smuggling.


  • Registered Users Posts: 15,127 ✭✭✭✭kerry4sam


    Thread closed as op only posted this thread in January and not posted since.
    Thread title also changed.

    Thanks,
    kerry4sam


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