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  • #212
    randylonghorn
    Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 29,509 Mod ✭✭✭✭randylonghorn


    Keep it calm, folks!! ;)


  • #213
    partyatmygaff
    Registered Users Posts: 10,992 ✭✭✭✭partyatmygaff


    THFC wrote: »
    Oh my gawd man STFU!
    How about no?
    Don't be so bitter, the people that deserve their place will get it anyways and it won't be through random selection.
    Bitter? These exams should be fair. Giving 30/55,000 people an advantage just because they have a lenient supervisor is completely unfair.
    And what about all the other examiners that dont hand out the papers until 9.30/2.00 on the dot??
    What about them? They're doing their job properly.
    They're losing out on precious few seconds that could cost them their college place!:rolleyes: Perhaps they should be encouraged to write to the SEC too and ask for a more lenient marking scheme... After all it's only fair :/
    A few seconds =/= Fifteen minutes.


  • #214
    Big Pussy Bonpensiero
    Registered Users Posts: 7,776 ✭✭✭Big Pussy Bonpensiero


    partyatmygaff wrote: »
    How about no?


    Bitter? These exams should be fair. Giving 30/55,000 people an advantage just because they have a lenient supervisor is completely unfair.


    What about them? They're doing their job properly.


    A few seconds =/= Fifteen minutes.
    Man... get a life! If this is bothering you that much I don't what to say..


  • #215
    LittleMissLost
    Registered Users Posts: 479 ✭✭LittleMissLost


    ^^^ this..

    Sure my superintendant helped loads of people in our centre during the exams :D JUst small bits but I'm not gonna rat on them like!


  • #216
    partyatmygaff
    Registered Users Posts: 10,992 ✭✭✭✭partyatmygaff


    THFC wrote: »
    Man... get a life! If this is bothering you that much I don't what to say..
    That's odd. You say you don't know what to say yet you still tell me to "get a life".

    As an aside, let's say my examiner gave my exam centre an extra half an hour for Maths P1 because he thought the paper looked tough. If I posted that on boards would it be alright for me to tell you to "get a life" for wanting to keep things fair?


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  • #217
    AG2R
    Registered Users Posts: 1,325 ✭✭✭AG2R


    Lads phone went off during the first exams after out supervisor had pointed out the sign. Just took the phone off him and let him continue with the exam and returned it at the end. Didn't even write it on the lads paper


  • #218
    Platinum2010
    Closed Accounts Posts: 452 ✭✭Platinum2010


    THFC wrote: »
    Man... get a life! If this is bothering you that much I don't what to say..

    It bothers him because like most people sitting the exams he want's them to be fair .
    I agree with that


  • #219
    ._.
    Registered Users Posts: 334 ✭✭._.


    Platinum2010 wrote: »
    It bothers him because like most people sitting the exams he want's them to be fair .
    I agree with that

    Well life isn't fair.
    Study your hardest and do your best, don't worry about others.


  • #220
    partyatmygaff
    Registered Users Posts: 10,992 ✭✭✭✭partyatmygaff


    ._. wrote: »
    Well life isn't fair.
    Study your hardest and do your best, don't worry about others.
    Life isn't fair so let's just keep it unfair. Let's not even attempt to make things fair.

    That's a great attitude to have.


  • #221
    DaveMur1
    Registered Users Posts: 309 ✭✭DaveMur1


    Lads, there's f*** all that can be done now, move on.


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  • #222
    Platinum2010
    Closed Accounts Posts: 452 ✭✭Platinum2010


    partyatmygaff wrote: »
    Life isn't fair so let's just keep it unfair. Let's not even attempt to make things fair.

    That's a great attitude to have.

    attempting to make things fair is obviously too much effort for the Lazy people out there


  • #223
    stealinhorses
    Registered Users Posts: 774 ✭✭✭stealinhorses


    partyatmygaff wrote: »
    Life isn't fair so let's just keep it unfair. Let's not even attempt to make things fair.

    That's a great attitude to have.

    Don't tell me you would walk out of that exam, head straight to your principal's office and risk getting your exam cancelled just to "try to do something" about some shameless c*nt?

    The world is a bitch and the system is corrupt and we can't fix that. Think about it this way, students sitting the Leaving Cert with a much higher IQ than others technically have an "unfair" advantage over people who might not have been born so lucky.

    There's nothing we can do about it, really.


  • #224
    partyatmygaff
    Registered Users Posts: 10,992 ✭✭✭✭partyatmygaff


    Platinum2010 wrote: »
    attempting to make things fair is obviously too much effort for the Lazy people out there
    I can understand people not caring or not being bothered to try and keep things fair. I cannot however understand the mindset of people who go so far as to ridicule people who do want to try and keep things fair.


  • #225
    partyatmygaff
    Registered Users Posts: 10,992 ✭✭✭✭partyatmygaff


    stealinhorses wrote: »
    The world is a bitch and the system is corrupt and we can't fix that. Think about it this way, students sitting the Leaving Cert with a much higher IQ than others technically have an "unfair" advantage over people who might not have been born so lucky.
    What a poor argument. There's quite a big difference between natural differences in ability between people and freely giving people time extensions in exams where people can often be stuck for time.


  • #226
    Platinum2010
    Closed Accounts Posts: 452 ✭✭Platinum2010


    partyatmygaff wrote: »
    cannot however understand the mindset of people who go so far as to ridicule people who do want to try and keep things fair.

    nor can I


  • #227
    ._.
    Registered Users Posts: 334 ✭✭._.


    partyatmygaff wrote: »
    Life isn't fair so let's just keep it unfair. Let's not even attempt to make things fair.

    That's a great attitude to have.
    OR we could just keep our noses out of other people's business?

    The students didn't do anything wrong, the examiner did. He should be punished, not them.

    Judging by your responses it's pretty obvious you must be bricking it over your own exams.. Why else would you be worrying so much over 33 people getting a slight advantage over you?
    If not, i'll chalk it up to you being a busybody.

    You really think these people are the only ones in the country getting some kind of an advantage? C'mon..
    This stuff happens in Ireland every year and will continue to happen no matter what.
    Worrying about your own exams is the only thing you can do. If you (like me) are doing well enough to more than clear the points you need you won't be worrying about (hearing about) 33 people getting a slight edge.

    And as for you portraying yourself as somebody fighting to keep the leaving cert fair and honest.. I don't think I even need to tell you how ridiculous that is.


  • #228
    stealinhorses
    Registered Users Posts: 774 ✭✭✭stealinhorses


    partyatmygaff, exactly, there's a huge difference. An extra half an hour is nothing compared to more natural ability in a given subject.

    I did the history exam and killed myself writing 12 pages. A girl in my class wrote 20, even though we have handwriting of about the same size. Am I gonna go mad at her for writing down more than me? No, it's my own fault for not writing faster. I'm part of the system, I chose to sit history for the Leaving Cert and it's my responsibility to maximise my marks.

    Does it annoy me that I'm better at history but she probably will get a higher grade? Yes, of course it annoys me. Would it annoy me if I found out that other people in a different school got an extra 15 minutes in their exam? Sure, that seems unfair.

    But those cases are so rare that it most likely won't affect my chances of getting into college. I know my own abilities, and so do you, so why get upset over something that you couldn't possibly change?


  • #229
    ._.
    Registered Users Posts: 334 ✭✭._.


    stealinhorses wrote: »
    why get upset over something that you couldn't possibly change?
    QFT.


  • #230
    partyatmygaff
    Registered Users Posts: 10,992 ✭✭✭✭partyatmygaff


    ._. wrote: »
    OR we could just keep our noses out of other people's business?
    Where are you getting this from? How am I being nosy for wanting the person who witnessed this to report the superintendent?
    The students didn't do anything wrong, the examiner did. He should be punished, not them.
    Did I ever ask for the students to be punished? All I asked was for the superintendent to be reported.
    Judging by your responses it's pretty obvious you must be bricking it over your own exams..
    That's some pretty wild inductive reasoning.
    Why else would you be worrying so much over 33 people getting a slight advantage over you?
    I dunno. Perhaps because some of these 33 faceless people may be competing with me for college places? Even so, I still fail to see where you're getting the whole "bothered" thing from. All I did was ask for the superintendent to be reported. The exact same thing that spurious said. Yet for some inexplicable reason i'm being called a busybody and being told to "get a life".
    If not, i'll chalk it up to you being a busybody.
    I wouldn't be surprised judging by your track record of making wild accusations.


  • #231
    partyatmygaff
    Registered Users Posts: 10,992 ✭✭✭✭partyatmygaff


    stealinhorses wrote: »
    so why get upset over something that you couldn't possibly change?
    Where the hell is this whole idea that i'm upset or bothered about any of this coming from? All I said was that I wanted the superintendent to be reported, the same as everyone else. Someone quoted one of my posts and replied to it and I replied back. Somehow it snowballed in to this massive "Get over yourself" argument with people sanctimoniously telling me to "Get a life" and not "get upset over something" that I couldn't possibly change.


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  • #232
    randylonghorn
    Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 29,509 Mod ✭✭✭✭randylonghorn


    randylonghorn wrote: »
    Keep it calm, folks!! ;)
    Hmmm, seems I've become invisible.

    (I would also draw your attention to point number 3, post 112)



    Folks, I haven't the slightest interest in reading this kind of flaming on a Saturday night.

    Go study ... or go relax before next week ... or go celebrate being finished!


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