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Swedish house mafia stabbings (Updated Mod Warning Post #1)

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    #1322
    Duggys Housemate
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,298 ✭✭✭Duggys Housemate


    Lizzboy wrote: »

    Also when people say "All these scumbags constantly fighting!", take a walk up Harcourt street at 3am on a Saturday night, your not going to see a crowd of posh people making daisy chains and hugging each other, I can assure you of that... Fighting happens in every walk of society. It's the rising level of knife crime that people would want to be worried about...

    The term scumbag is not classist - chav is. That said I never see any fights in Harcourt street when back in dublin.


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    #1323
    Piriz
    Registered Users Posts: 1,268 ✭✭✭Piriz


    confirmed found on http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/missing-concert-teen-found-558485.html


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    #1324
    thebaz
    Registered Users Posts: 13,576 ✭✭✭✭thebaz


    sometimes the actions of a few can tarnish a whole group - i remember in the early days of punk, there was a murder at a Dublin gig - and punk became associated with violence in the media for years - the reality was there was only a few punch ups -

    even the Rolling Stones became associated with violence for years, due to the actions of one or 2 Hells Angels at Altamont


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    #1325
    BowlingLad
    Registered Users Posts: 42 ✭BowlingLad


    Shocked and saddened by the number of people on here trying to claim drugs are ok and anyone who drinks is as liable to do "outrageous things".

    While people may drink to excess it is million times better then taking even 1 pill.

    1 pill can kill you.
    too many pills will in general hurt you and others more then to many drinks.
    Pills/drugs and even weed of any kind is illegal.
    Buying them directly supports crime/gangs/all related activities/knife crime.

    If you are a pill head that is your decision but do not try and defend the indefensible.

    I know I would feel safer around a group of messy drunks instead of people off their heads on class a drugs.


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    #1326
    mikom
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,391 ✭✭✭✭mikom


    BowlingLad wrote: »
    Shocked and saddened by the number of people on here trying to claim drugs are ok and anyone who drinks is as liable to do "outrageous things".

    While people may drink to excess it is million times better then taking even 1 pill.

    1 pill can kill you.
    too many pills will in general hurt you and others more then to many drinks.
    Pills/drugs and even weed of any kind is illegal.
    Buying them directly supports crime/gangs/all related activities/knife crime.

    If you are a pill head that is your decision but do not try and defend the indefensible.

    I know I would feel safer around a group of messy drunks instead of people off their heads on class a drugs.

    drools....


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    #1327
    Thatnastyboy
    Registered Users Posts: 1,254 ✭✭✭Thatnastyboy


    BowlingLad wrote: »
    Shocked and saddened by the number of people on here trying to claim drugs are ok and anyone who drinks is as liable to do "outrageous things".

    While people may drink to excess it is million times better then taking even 1 pill.

    1 pill can kill you.
    too many pills will in general hurt you and others more then to many drinks.
    Pills/drugs and even weed of any kind is illegal.
    Buying them directly supports crime/gangs/all related activities/knife crime.

    If you are a pill head that is your decision but do not try and defend the indefensible.

    I know I would feel safer around a group of messy drunks instead of people off their heads on class a drugs.

    Tell it to Joe Duffy pal,

    And being honest, you might not feel it but you would be a lot safer around the people on yokes, ever wonder why its called ecstacy?

    Edit: 1 pill can kill you, correct, if its cyanide


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    #1328
    mattjack
    Registered Users Posts: 5,389 ✭✭✭mattjack


    christmas2012 wrote: »
    Ive heard some very wierd ways of getting high its what the youth of today are doing apparently:
    sticking their head and inhaling fridge freezer air - supposed to crystalize your braincells and get you high like on deodrant.
    bath salts - its a pretty new one on me
    hapric toilet soap - inhaling it some how i dunno
    head shop gear is supposed to be in abundance on the streets now,i heard from one person there is some stuff that gets you completley high and aggressive..
    the drugs of today have changed: they make you more aggressive,people dont want to chill out with a little bit of hash and be happy out chit chatting anymore..

    I'm only guessing here, but I think she could be talking about snowblow, mephedrone


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    #1329
    SilverScreen
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,113 ✭✭✭SilverScreen


    I'd feel a lot safer around people smoking joints than people necking back cans to be honest.


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    #1330
    BowlingLad
    Registered Users Posts: 42 ✭BowlingLad


    cynadie? that shows how narrow minded and gullible the users of Ireland are.

    When you buy xtc (or any other illegal substance) how do you know its xtc? Get a receipt and guarantee of the drug lord or scum bag who gave it to you?

    What do you know about its affects? Why do you think it is illegal?


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    #1331
    BowlingLad
    Registered Users Posts: 42 ✭BowlingLad


    Zero1986 wrote: »
    I'd feel a lot safer around people smoking joints than people necking back cans to be honest.

    I wont get into a debate about that as it ma be true, however you still have the problem of where does the weed come from? Who gets it into the country and who pays the price?

    People dont seem to have any clue about the underworld and families suffering due to loved ones getting caught up or killed. Waste.


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    #1332
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    BowlingLad wrote: »
    ........

    What do you know about its affects? Why do you think it is illegal?

    Well its illegal regardless of how pure it is.


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    #1333
    keithclancy
    Registered Users Posts: 9,222 ✭✭✭keithclancy


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dp3ms6wsYLI


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    #1334
    Lizzboy
    Registered Users Posts: 2 ✭Lizzboy


    BowlingLad wrote: »
    Shocked and saddened by the number of people on here trying to claim drugs are ok and anyone who drinks is as liable to do "outrageous things".

    While people may drink to excess it is million times better then taking even 1 pill.

    1 pill can kill you.
    too many pills will in general hurt you and others more then to many drinks.
    Pills/drugs and even weed of any kind is illegal.
    Buying them directly supports crime/gangs/all related activities/knife crime.

    If you are a pill head that is your decision but do not try and defend the indefensible.

    I know I would feel safer around a group of messy drunks instead of people off their heads on class a drugs.

    I'm not trying to claim the fact that pills are OK. I'm just stating facts from my own experience and that of about 20 other friends who were on the same holiday in Ibiza. Not one argument in 14 days of clubbing says something, whether you like the idea of it maybe being down to the drug use or not is irrelevant. The fact is the scenario of going to Dublin on a 14 day session without seeing a single argument, would in my opinion simply be impossible. And I personally put that down to the amount of alcohol people consume.


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    #1335
    El Weirdo
    Registered Users Posts: 11,646 ✭✭✭✭El Weirdo


    keithclancy wrote: »
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dp3ms6wsYLI
    I'm seriously considering banning the next person that posts that video or the pictures from T in the Park.


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    #1336
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 25,611 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    BowlingLad wrote: »
    cynadie? that shows how narrow minded and gullible the users of Ireland are.

    When you buy xtc (or any other illegal substance) how do you know its xtc? Get a receipt and guarantee of the drug lord or scum bag who gave it to you?

    What do you know about its affects? Why do you think it is illegal?

    There must be hundreds of thousands if not millions taken every year in Ireland alone and how many deaths come from it?


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    #1337
    tayto lover
    Registered Users Posts: 51,485 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    If the people who took the drugs had no alcohol taken would there have been trouble?


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    #1338
    SilverScreen
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,113 ✭✭✭SilverScreen


    BowlingLad wrote: »
    I wont get into a debate about that as it ma be true, however you still have the problem of where does the weed come from? Who gets it into the country and who pays the price?

    People dont seem to have any clue about the underworld and families suffering due to loved ones getting caught up or killed. Waste.
    Hence why cannabis should be legalised and regulated in this country. Also a lot of people grow their own for their own consumption.

    Besides cannabis is obviously not the problem in this country, it's alcohol and harder drugs.


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    #1339
    Shryke
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,199 ✭✭✭Shryke


    BowlingLad wrote: »
    Shocked and saddened by the number of people on here trying to claim drugs are ok and anyone who drinks is as liable to do "outrageous things".

    While people may drink to excess it is million times better then taking even 1 pill.

    1 pill can kill you.
    too many pills will in general hurt you and others more then to many drinks.
    Pills/drugs and even weed of any kind is illegal.
    Buying them directly supports crime/gangs/all related activities/knife crime.

    If you are a pill head that is your decision but do not try and defend the indefensible.

    I know I would feel safer around a group of messy drunks instead of people off their heads on class a drugs.

    I'm not going to bother. I'll give you 2 links right now. Educate yourself if you want. And that's it, I'm not getting into it.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/video/2011/jan/10/david-nutt-drugs-policy

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2010/nov/01/alcohol-more-harmful-than-heroin-crack


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    #1340
    BowlingLad
    Registered Users Posts: 42 ✭BowlingLad


    we may all be guilty of getting distracted by the bigger issue - the culture not the substance. As lizzy says the amount and extent irish get of their heads may be the issue.

    El Weidro - do not know why you would want to ban a video like that unless your claiming it did not happen at the event in question, people can counter that video with a video of people having the "craic" if they want. People were out of their minds fighting - and worse still appearing to target anyone/random innocent people/people trying to help. It also shows the completely lack of security. 1 person there - in fairness doing his best, why should he risk his life.

    There is a culture of getting off our heads, now combined with carrying knifes. That to me means premeditated to use it - the guy should be charged for attempted murder. If someone died as a result he should be charged for murder not manslaughter.


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    #1341
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    BowlingLad wrote: »

    El Weidro - do not know why you would want to ban a video like that ............

    ...because its been posted umpteen times?


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    #1342
    cunnifferous
    Registered Users Posts: 1,070 ✭✭✭cunnifferous


    BowlingLad wrote: »
    I wont get into a debate about that as it ma be true, however you still have the problem of where does the weed come from? Who gets it into the country and who pays the price?

    People dont seem to have any clue about the underworld and families suffering due to loved ones getting caught up or killed. Waste.

    Would you support the legalisation of drugs then? That would take all the money out of the 'underworlds' hands in one swoop.


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    #1343
    BowlingLad
    Registered Users Posts: 42 ✭BowlingLad


    Shryke wrote: »
    I'm not going to bother. I'll give you 2 links right now. Educate yourself if you want. And that's it, I'm not getting into it.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/video/2011/jan/10/david-nutt-drugs-policy

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2010/nov/01/alcohol-more-harmful-than-heroin-crack

    Stats are easily manipulated, especially by the media.

    Remember it is easy to say alcohol is worse -because for every drug user there could be 100 alcohol users.

    Did you know most people on Irish roads die within 10 miles of their home - So that must mean people drive faster and take less care on the roads the believe they know best???
    -Or is it because we do 80% of our driving within 10 miles of our house.

    Did you know airplanes are the safest way to travel???
    - Safest when you look at the deaths per mile stat.
    - one of most dangerous when you look at deaths per journey.


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    #1344
    El Weirdo
    Registered Users Posts: 11,646 ✭✭✭✭El Weirdo


    Nodin wrote: »
    ...because its been posted umpteen times?
    Exactly.

    Thank you, Nodin.


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    #1345
    Intensive Care Bear
    Registered Users Posts: 661 ✭✭✭Intensive Care Bear


    BowlingLad wrote: »
    cynadie? that shows how narrow minded and gullible the users of Ireland are.

    When you buy xtc (or any other illegal substance) how do you know its xtc? Get a receipt and guarantee of the drug lord or scum bag who gave it to you?

    What do you know about its affects? Why do you think it is illegal?

    Not that i do much these days but when i do take drugs i use testing kits to prove their purity, also it's not in a drug dealers interests to be poisoning their costumers.

    I also have to agree with the other poster about Ibiza, i was there last month for 2 weeks and i have never seen so much drug use in my life and there was not even the hint of a fight breaking out.


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    #1346
    mikom
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,391 ✭✭✭✭mikom


    BowlingLad wrote: »

    Did you know airplanes are the safest way to fly???

    As opposed to what......... cars?


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    #1347
    BowlingLad
    Registered Users Posts: 42 ✭BowlingLad


    cunnifferous wrote: »
    Would you support the legalisation of drugs then? That would take all the money out of the 'underworlds' hands in one swoop.

    Absolutely, while i don't agree with hard drugs banning them clearly doesn't work.

    The Government may as well make money off it instead of wasting money fighting it. Use that money to create initiatives to change our culture - or to at least police the streets properly.


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    #1348
    Micky Dolenz
    Registered Users Posts: 44,080 ✭✭✭✭Micky Dolenz


    BowlingLad wrote: »
    we may all be guilty of getting distracted by the bigger issue - the culture not the substance. As lizzy says the amount and extent irish get of their heads may be the issue.

    El Weidro - do not know why you would want to ban a video like that unless your claiming it did not happen at the event in question, people can counter that video with a video of people having the "craic" if they want. People were out of their minds fighting - and worse still appearing to target anyone/random innocent people/people trying to help. It also shows the completely lack of security. 1 person there - in fairness doing his best, why should he risk his life.

    There is a culture of getting off our heads, now combined with carrying knifes. That to me means premeditated to use it - the guy should be charged for attempted murder. If someone died as a result he should be charged for murder not manslaughter.


    It's not so much an Irish problem then a people problem. It happens everywhere in the world.

    I've been to loads of concerts and festivals in Ireland and have never seen an ounce of trouble. Will be heading to EP and I hope my festival going remains trouble free.


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    #1349
    cunnifferous
    Registered Users Posts: 1,070 ✭✭✭cunnifferous


    BowlingLad wrote: »
    we may all be guilty of getting distracted by the bigger issue - the culture not the substance. As lizzy says the amount and extent irish get of their heads may be the issue.

    El Weidro - do not know why you would want to ban a video like that unless your claiming it did not happen at the event in question, people can counter that video with a video of people having the "craic" if they want. People were out of their minds fighting - and worse still appearing to target anyone/random innocent people/people trying to help. It also shows the completely lack of security. 1 person there - in fairness doing his best, why should he risk his life.

    There is a culture of getting off our heads, now combined with carrying knifes. That to me means premeditated to use it - the guy should be charged for attempted murder. If someone died as a result he should be charged for murder not manslaughter.

    Yeah I'm not sure if a drugs are worse than alcohol debate and vice-versa is really that relevant. I think that if you bring a knife to a gig, only one thing is gonna happen, whether you stay sober or ingest your body weight in booze and drugs.


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    #1350
    BowlingLad
    Registered Users Posts: 42 ✭BowlingLad


    1210m5g wrote: »
    Not that i do much these days but when i do take drugs i use testing kits to prove their purity.

    it is unlikely that the majority of youngsters off their face in the park would have the cop on you had!!!!


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    #1351
    Shryke
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,199 ✭✭✭Shryke


    BowlingLad wrote: »
    Stats are easily manipulated, especially by the media.

    Remember it is easy to say alcohol is worse -because for every drug user there could be 100 alcohol users.

    Did you know most people on Irish roads die within 10 miles of their home - So that must mean people drive faster and take less care on the roads the believe they know best???
    -Or is it because we do 80% of our driving within 10 miles of our house.

    Did you know airplanes are the safest way to travel???
    - Safest when you look at the deaths per mile stat.
    - one of most dangerous when you look at deaths per journey.

    And the media have manipulated the facts about drugs for decades. The fact that you think 1 pill can kill you shows just how clueless you are, even though you think you're informed.
    The rest of your post is nonsensical.

    Anyway, stabbing people, bad form there.


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