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New baby essentials

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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,919 ✭✭✭ziggy23


    definitely agree about the digital thermometer we got one that you just place on the forehead and it gives you the temp. Saves a lot of worrying of has he or has he not got a temperature.
    I wouldn't go too mad buying loads of clothes the amount of presents you get is unreal.
    As for the pram make sure it's one that folds easily and will do well into they are a toddler I went through 3 buggies:eek:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 310 ✭✭doubletrouble?


    liamo wrote: »
    After changing our new daughter a couple of times on a changing mat on the floor my back was about to break so I got into the car and got one of these. 15 months later, we're still using it on a daily basis. It also has a built-in bath and as it's on wheels it can be moved from room to room easily.

    Best of luck.
    ceadaoin. wrote: »
    We got this baby bath and it's been great.
    have to say we have both types of baths and have tried them both thoroughly. we found that the one that comes with the trolly is far better(liamo's one). our twins love nothing more than to be immersed in water. they'd gladly spend the whole day there once the water remains warm.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,065 ✭✭✭Kash


    For all the Tummy Tub owners:

    I bought the Tummy Tub and the stool.
    The bucket part just sits in the stool.

    Is it supposed to click/clip in or something, or is it the weight of the water that keeps it stable? Definitely don't want it falling over!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,893 ✭✭✭Hannibal Smith


    Kash wrote: »
    For all the Tummy Tub owners:

    I bought the Tummy Tub and the stool.
    The bucket part just sits in the stool.

    Is it supposed to click/clip in or something
    , or is it the weight of the water that keeps it stable? Definitely don't want it falling over!!

    The top of the stool bit is a flower shape...lift off the surface of it and it opens out. The bottom of the bucket part clicks into to the now opened out stool bit. Don't put the baby in the tub unless the tub has clicked into place and is absolutely secure


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,065 ✭✭✭Kash


    Thanks Hannibal - the tub and stool were at my parents (my mum is a bit crazy, and doesn't want baby stuff in my house in case I jinx something) so I asked her to double check it as it was way too wobbly when Dad and I tried it... she said with a bit of brute force the tub part clipped into the flower part.

    She said it's now so secure that she can't get it back off :D

    Nanny to be is now satisfied that it is safe, and if it passes her discerning judgement, it will pass anyones.

    EDIT: If anyone wants to see how to put it together with the amount of force required to clip it in place (plus a super cute baby) this video is great: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7n7o5Lwy80


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,893 ✭✭✭Hannibal Smith


    Ah excellent...it shouldn't need brut force though....just twist the tub part till all the bits click in to place. Unless they're made differently now, but it shouldn't take any effort at all


  • Registered Users Posts: 40,055 ✭✭✭✭Sparks


    Kash wrote: »
    So, new mums, tell me... if you were to start it all from scratch again, what wouldn't you do without? What was nice to have, but not essential? And what was a complete waste of time and space?
    From a very new dad and mom, and mostly aimed at the ward and the first few days:
    • Pump-action spray bottle filled with filtered water. Used on mom during the birth if she got too hot, and on her calves which were constantly itchy because of the hormones, and on dad's face and mom's face in the delivery ward after the birth because the hospital air is so dry, and when filled with warm water, on baby's backside for changing time. Nice multitasker. Bought mine in the cooking section of hsw.ie of all places, but they sell them in lots of places and on ebay, and they should be quite cheap. Get a smallish one though, no point bringing a litre sized thing when you only want about 200ml at most.
    • Cellular blankets. We only got two and we're getting more asap - they're just the business as blankets, as ad hoc sleep positioners, as ad hoc sunscreens, and so on.
    • Neurofen/Panadol/Hedex/whatever for dad. You're not the patient, so the hospital can't give you any form of pain meds, and mommy shouldn't take your neurofen because they need to know what she's on, but on the day after the birth you're likely to have a monster headache because of the stress, and because you probably didn't eat and drink properly the day before :D And since all you want to do is focus on baby's face a few inches from yours, the headache's a bummer and chemicals are your friend...
    • Slippers for both mom and dad. Everyone tells mom to bring slippers for the ward because the floor is cold - that's not why you really bring them though. You really bring slippers because it's a hospital and they're careful, but there's still a risk of sharps on the floor. And since dad shouldn't walk in off the street and put boots on the bed while sitting in the chair holding baby (because what if you put him on the bed afterwards to change him or check the nappy or whatever - you've no idea what you've walked through...), having slippers for wearing just in the ward is useful.
    • Hand sanitiser. Yeah, maybe I'm being paranoid, but for the first month I'm allowed, so every guest gets a squirt of hand sanitizer into their hands before picking up baby. I've no idea what they've had on their hands that day!
    • A small bag inside your ward bag (we bought a mothercare set of baby lotions that came in its own zippered case with a handle; we left the lotions in the bathroom and used the case). It's handy to keep the little things like lip balm and such together in the delivery room bag too, but it really shines after the birth when you put all the nappy-changing stuff into it, and when you have to change baby, you just grab that and take him down the hall to the changing room, instead of trying to juggle him, nappy bags, nappies, vaseline, spray bottle and so on.
    • Smartphones. Camera, phone, MP3 player, radio, all in one device. Also:
      • Facebook app. Gets photos up and family off your back quickly and lets you deal with hospital stuff faster than calling the few people you have time to call and then having the "Why did you call X and not me???" conversations.
      • Contraction timer apps. Utterly useless to us in the end, I'm afraid.
      • BabyESP (EatSleepPoop) app. Used it to track feeding times and nappy changes in the hospital, using it still. Lets you sync a single baby's data over multiple devices which is handy. Android only though it seems. But there are many apps like this on every platform. It sounds like overkill, but we're finding it makes things a lot easier. And you can show hard data to the PHN if you're worried about something.
      • Podcasts. At a few points on the ward, mommy was sleeping and baby was sleeping on my chest and we'd be there for two or three hours at a stretch. Sometimes you'd blink and the time was over; other times, especially when I was tired, I stuck an earbud in one ear, left the other free to keep watch on the two of them and listened to the friday night comedy podcast, to material world, to IT conversations, to Science in Action, and so on.
    • Takeaway menus. Seriously, by the end of the day we came home, we were so tired we couldn't even face the effort of microwaving something to eat, so we just ordered pizza. I seriously wouldn't recommend it as a habit though ;)
    • Robinsons barley water. Mommy has to keep hydrated, and that stuff makes it a lot easier to chug pints of water.
    • The hoover. We brought baby home on the first day and he went nuts. Wouldn't settle, wouldn't stop crying any time we stopped talking to him. We finally figured out (we were a bit slow on the uptake with this one) that he'd had nine months in the womb where it's really noisy, then birth which is very noisy, then three days on the delivery ward which goes from really loud and noisy to kindof relaxed but still with background noises, to the car ride home which was noisy, to the living room and silence. Poor thing must have though he'd suddenly gone deaf. Turned on the hoover and just left it run, it calmed him right down. After an hour of that, we managed to wean him onto the radio, and over the last few days, he's gotten more and more used to the quiet. But the hoover earned its wages that first day :D
    • Along with the towels for mommy to shower with and so forth, bring another dark towel to change baby on. Holles St. has a changing room with changing units in it, but they don't have mats on them (it's a hard wooden surface) and they ask you to use your own towel rather than the blue towels they use for the cots and swaddling. You might also want to have your own bag of cotton wool balls, because they keep them in the changing room but occasionally they run out and inevitably you're there with everything laid out and prepped when you realise you've nothing to clean his bum with. And they're kept in a cupboard down the hall, not in one in the changing room so you have to go find a nurse to get more if you don't have your own stash.
    • Men's Pyjamas for mommy in dark colours, because they're easy to doff for examinations or feeding, they're more comfy than nightdresses and they have a pocket for things (btw, what idiot designs womens clothing so that mom's clothing has no pockets when she needs to carry fifty things all the time?)
    • Shirts for daddy, in soft cotton or flannel, with some sort of alternating high-contrast pattern (plaid. Yay.) which open with buttons in front like normal. Babys calm fast when they hear a heartbeat, so open your shirt, lose the 1970s medallion, put his ear over your heart and trade dignity for peace and quiet :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,260 ✭✭✭Mink


    I see the starts of a good book for new dads Sparks!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 310 ✭✭doubletrouble?


    i dont know if this has been mentioned already but another essential is a nappy bin. cant live without one of these.


  • Registered Users Posts: 482 ✭✭annamcmahon


    I just use a normal bathroom bin as a nappy bin. I was given a sangenic one and thought it would be good in an apartment but a bit pointless for me in a house. I do use cloth nappies though so don't fill the bin that quickly.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 301 ✭✭surime


    egan2020 wrote: »
    I just used the kitchen sink for the first couple of weeks

    This is kind of shocking for me.. kitchen sink? :confused: The one were you wash your vegetables and meat and wash dishes?


  • Registered Users Posts: 40,055 ✭✭✭✭Sparks


    surime wrote: »
    This is kind of shocking for me.. kitchen sink? :confused: The one were you wash your vegetables and meat and wash dishes?
    That's where I was washed as a child. That or the bathroom sink (and hey, can we spell E.Coli or Neonatal Meningitis?)
    You do clean your kitchen sink regularly, right? :D


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 301 ✭✭surime


    Sparks wrote: »
    That's where I was washed as a child. That or the bathroom sink (and hey, can we spell E.Coli or Neonatal Meningitis?)
    You do clean your kitchen sink regularly, right? :D

    My mother is microbiologist and no need to tell me about bacteria... and that's why I am shocked, sure I do wash my sink every day with cif and often fill it with water and milton, but still it it not a place bath your baby!


  • Registered Users Posts: 40,055 ✭✭✭✭Sparks


    surime wrote: »
    My mother is microbiologist and no need to tell me about bacteria... and that's why I am shocked, sure I do wash my sink every day with cif and often fill it with water and milton, but still it it not a place bath your baby!
    I don't think anyone was saying you had to, but many parents can't spend fifty euro on what is, essentially, a fancy plastic bucket to bathe infants in (I actually like the tub, but we were given a present of a different model of bath and it worked perfectly well). And generations of parents before us did fine without a special bath for babies, using sinks. And I honestly do think that if a sink isn't kept clean enough to bath a baby in, it might not really be a great idea to prepare food using it which the baby's mother has to eat, especially if she's breastfeeding. Keep the sink scrubbed down with steel wool, use cream cleanser of some kind regularly, and disinfect with dettol or just plain ordinary bleach every so often, and of course keep the immediate surrounding area just as clean. At that point, your risk levels are going to be about the same as for a specialised bath which will usually be kept in a bathroom, and therefore covered in particulate fecal matter from when people flush the toilet, along with the usual sources of pathogens.

    I mean, I'm as paranoid as the next new parent, and we're buried in hand sanitizers and soap and hot water here because we're still in the first month, but I think I'd go insane if I was that germophobic in our world. I mean, what would I do with flowers from visitors if I was that worried?


  • Registered Users Posts: 40,055 ✭✭✭✭Sparks


    This is probably too simple to note, but I'd have liked to have seen this beforehand and didn't, so - our changing station:

    198280.jpg

    The whole thing is on the cot bed, which has the mattress up at the highest level (and which is still too low - but by the time he moves from moses basket to cot bed in a few weeks, we'll have had time to sort something out and the changes won't be as frequent. Maybe :D ). The cot bed looks fancy btw, but it was a sale in mothercare and was probably overpriced still. It's meant to last him till he's around four, but I think it might not be up to it...

    Anyway, left to right, we have the fresh nappies on the 'clean' side of the changing wedge (which has washable covers). There's also a muslin on the wedge, just to catch the worst of it if he goes mid-change, which has happened once or twice. There's a nappy pail on the floor with water and dettol in it - the muslin and cover go in there if soiled, until we get them into a wash.

    On the 'dirty' side of the wedge, you have:
    • Cotton cleaning pads (which are so much easier than the cotton balls to use when cleaning up the normal nappy-related mess, but we keep the balls around for things like cleaning the cord and naval and so on). Some left out in a small stack before the change, the rest in the bag.
    • Jumbo sized tub of vaseline to use as a barrier cream once he's cleaned
    • Cotton buds and liquid talc in case he had a particularly wet nappy, but we usually don't use it. Incidentally, both the vaseline and liquid talc are on the wrong side - I wanted there to be a 'clean' and a 'dirty' side to the changing wedge, with one side ('dirty') used only for the cleaning up of the poop, and the other side ('clean') used after that for putting on stuff that would stay on till the next change.
    • Hand sanitizer. Use once before beginning the change and once after having cleaned him up and before putting on the stuff that'll be on him until the next change, like vaseline or liquid talc.
    • The mothercare case that was our nappy bag on the ward. Right now it just holds the small plastic bags we use to bundle up all the debris from a change.
    • Tommee Tippee nappy bin, which has an antibacterial nappy bag setup internally, which is really nifty and keeps bad smells locked away. Even with all the sun of late, there's no odour in the nursery. We don't quite fill this in a week, at least so far. Handy little thing.
    Not in shot is a small plastic container with a wide base which we fill with warm water before the change to dip the cotton pads into. No double-dipping! :D

    There's a tallboy out of frame to the right, over the changer's shoulder and within arm's reach and there are more bags of nappies, pads and cotton balls on the top of it and more supplies in the top drawer, all within arms reach.

    The toys occasionally help distract during the change, but mostly, it's just somewhere to store them until he's old enough to find them interesting. The white webcam is our baby monitor, mounted to the cot itself.

    Like I said, it's pretty basic stuff and probably not news to anyone, but what the heck. Anyone see anything useful that's missing?


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,339 ✭✭✭How Strange


    We used the kitchen or bathroom sink too. We bought a baby bath but it was far too much hassle. We only bathed him max once a week up to 6 months.

    I'm actually suprised that you're so shocked surime.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 301 ✭✭surime


    Sparks wrote: »
    I don't think anyone was saying you had to, but many parents can't spend fifty euro on what is, essentially, a fancy plastic bucket to bathe infants in (I actually like the tub, but we were given a present of a different model of bath and it worked perfectly well). And generations of parents before us did fine without a special bath for babies, using sinks. And I honestly do think that if a sink isn't kept clean enough to bath a baby in, it might not really be a great idea to prepare food using it which the baby's mother has to eat, especially if she's breastfeeding. Keep the sink scrubbed down with steel wool, use cream cleanser of some kind regularly, and disinfect with dettol or just plain ordinary bleach every so often, and of course keep the immediate surrounding area just as clean. At that point, your risk levels are going to be about the same as for a specialised bath which will usually be kept in a bathroom, and therefore covered in particulate fecal matter from when people flush the toilet, along with the usual sources of pathogens.

    I mean, I'm as paranoid as the next new parent, and we're buried in hand sanitizers and soap and hot water here because we're still in the first month, but I think I'd go insane if I was that germophobic in our world. I mean, what would I do with flowers from visitors if I was that worried?

    Sure, maybe this can work for somebody, I was just surprised. Nobody does this in Poland, but this can work maybe..
    -I am not sure why you think you have to teach me how to clean sink :rolleyes:, but thatnks for tips.

    -one more thing - to have everything around baby so sterile is not good actually... his/her immune system will have no chance to develop and with the first contact (there will be first contact - in another house, shop, creche) baby will get infection easily! (just to make sure -I dont mean by that you should wash baby in a dirty sink..)


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 301 ✭✭surime



    I'm actually suprised that you're so shocked surime.

    That's because I never heard of it before -sorry! ;)


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,339 ✭✭✭How Strange


    surime wrote: »
    That's because I never heard of it before -sorry! ;)

    When you have a baby covered in poo up to his neck you'll find yourself hosing him down in the shower or putting him under a running tap.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,937 ✭✭✭implausible


    surime wrote: »
    Nobody does this in Poland

    That's really interesting. I presumed everyone had at some stage washed a baby in the kitchen sink.

    When we were kids, we washed our hair in the kitchen sink!


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 301 ✭✭surime


    When you have a baby covered in poo up to his neck you'll find yourself hosing him down in the shower or putting him under a running tap.

    Thats different from bathing baby, but I would be afraid to put my baby under running tap as water temperature changes a lot under tap were I live. I am not sure if this is because tap itself is not good quality (doesnt mix hot and cold water well) or its something with boiler, but I wouldnt do that anyway.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 301 ✭✭surime


    That's really interesting. I presumed everyone had at some stage washed a baby in the kitchen sink.

    When we were kids, we washed our hair in the kitchen sink!

    I asked my mum today and she said my grandmother used to bath them(my mum and her brother and sister in some kind of basin, just not plastic, but metal and she said she only knows they bath babies (newborns) in sinks in hospital were she works, but never seen anybody doing this at home.

    I am not saying there is something wrong about it, it is just new to me!

    (I was kid in 80's and never washed my hair in sink -I have too much hair! ;) )


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 301 ✭✭surime


    Sparks wrote: »
    198280.jpg

    That looks like a proper changing station! and very cosy!


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,339 ✭✭✭How Strange


    surime wrote: »
    Thats different from bathing baby, but I would be afraid to put my baby under running tap as water temperature changes a lot under tap were I live. I am not sure if this is because tap itself is not good quality (doesnt mix hot and cold water well) or its something with boiler, but I wouldnt do that anyway.
    For the first 6 months we rarely bathed him and perhaps only when he'd done an explosive dirty nappy so that's why we used the sink or shower. At 6 months we got a bath seat which was brilliant. No more stooping over a bath.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,893 ✭✭✭Hannibal Smith


    Sparks that's so organised! Our one looks like yours, after a nuclear bomb went off!

    we were bathed in the sink too *blush*


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,065 ✭✭✭Kash


    Ah, the sink is nothing :)

    When we first moved to Ireland, we moved in with my great-grandparents, who had no inside plumbing at the time. So we washed in the sink outside, bathed in a laundry tub in front of the fire, and went to pee in a bucket at night. I was 8 and couldn't understand what had happened to the world!! :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 40,055 ✭✭✭✭Sparks


    Sparks that's so organised! Our one looks like yours, after a nuclear bomb went off!
    We're at 8 days old so far Hannibal, don't congratulate us till we're at least two months in ;)


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,644 ✭✭✭✭lazygal


    Just wanted to say thanks for the suggestions here, as first time parents we're getting the bare minimum to start off so its reassuring to see how little we really need. Some of the 'must have' lists on other parenting site and from the midwives are so long you'd have the house full of stuff!


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,937 ✭✭✭implausible


    lazygal wrote: »
    Some of the 'must have' lists on other parenting site and from the midwives are so long you'd have the house full of stuff!

    ...and they also presume that people aren't going to buy you anything. For the first year of my wee man's life, all I had to buy were newborn baby vests and suits and sleepsuits later. The amount of clothes people give you is unbelievable, I have clothes stored away that he never wore and had to return plenty of things for bigger sizes! For the big-ticket items, let your family etc know what you want.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 285 ✭✭Knit wit


    Another sink bather here ... (saves the back!) I did buy a plastic baby bath ... Our bath is too deep so I think it'll come in handy in a couple of months time ... After that it may become a sandpit :)
    At her 2 week check up the nurse recommended only washing bub once a week at most ... Regular bathing dries out their skin apparently.
    I never had a changing table with my first 2 but decided to get one this time. Picked up a mamas and papas one second hand for €40 ... Bought a new changing mat and baskets or underneath ... Wouldn't be without it now ... It's in the utility room loo ... Keeps all the nappy smells in one place ... That at change when bub is older but for the moment it's working fine.


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