Islamic State militants planning for 'large-scale' attacks on Europe

You'd be mad to give a f*ck about ISIS attacks.

You've a better chance being killed on the road than ever being involved in one of those attacks.

4 out of 5 people in the Bataclan theatre on the worse night of violence in France since WW2 got out unharmed and many didn't even know what they were running from.

The papers would be shocking boring if they had nothing to hype.

BigJackC wrote: »

Yes, Paris is known for its balmy weather during the winter. Good man.

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Fcuk knows why people think they'd bother with anything in ireland outside of Shannon airport??
Upon arriving in Shannon they most likely wouldn't bother blowing the place up...twud only improve it?

Set the IRA on them. They won against the taliban before.

nacho libre wrote: »

They have been trying to attack the UK capital for the last couple of years, and Al Qaeda in Iraq before them. For all the attacks that have been foiled, which don't get much press coverage, they only have to get lucky one.

Taking this into consideration I do worry about taking the tube at peak hours sometimes, but then I'm more likely to be killed while driving or when crossing the street.
We all complain about having a bad at work, but imagine you are an intelligence operative who fails to prevent a terrorist attack due to a double agent or faulty intelligence.I wonder has MI5 sent agents over to join isis with a view to them infilitrating the top brass of Isis. You would want to have some some courage to take on such a role.

You'd also wonder if ISIS have done the same to MI5. Have moles inside.

In the history of warfare, double-agents were always a feature of operations.

Gatling wrote: »

But ,but ,but

Edward snowden said it's all fake and not to worry

Wasn't one of Snowden's points that the sheer bulk of data collected made it more difficult to determine what were legitimate threats?

ISIS need to be defeated and fast. Not just in a military way either. The whole makeup of some of these countries is what is wrong. Add to this unneeded Western aggression like the Iraq war and you have a very dangerous situation.

Now, visualise the situation in these countries? I will make up a fictional country. The Islamic Emirate of Wadia has in recent years known nothing but war and turmoil. Bickering among its now deposed royal family lead to civil war with the country's economy collapsing. Soon, a communist government took over. A popular 'Islamic revolution' occurred in the mid 1980s and was lead by a deranged Mullah who has set up a personality cult. Of course, Wadia has oil. The West backed up and armed mad Mullah and the USSR sent weapons to the fragile communist administration. Soon, the USSR lost interest and the revolution took over in 1987. Many ex government members were executed, as were top army officers and all communist or royalists were rounded up and executed in the reign of terror from 1987 to 1990. The regime got more and more anti-Western especially since money to it was stopped after the West and the USSR improved their relationship. Meanwhile, the new 'Islamist' Wadi regime enforces a dress code for women, a beard code for men, bans alcohol and gambling, and imposes draconian laws to punish anyone who disobeys.

The world is more interested in the collapse of the Berlin wall, improved relationships between the 2 superpowers and the fall of Eastern European communism. Wadia like all its Middle Eastern neighbours is just seem as a petrol pump and while the world publically denounces its violent and repressive regime, they still buy oil from it and tolerate it.

Meanwhile, the regime gets madder and madder. Cinema, music, festivals, TV, radio, coffee, tea, certain foodtypes, soft drinks, most books, sport and the Koran in the native language all get banned. Each citizen is instructed to participate in marches denouncing America, Russia, Israel and Wadia's neighbours and posters of the mad Mullah or Emir of Wadia are everywhere. Sponsorship of violent terrorism is rife. Sunni Islam of the Salafist variety is the only legal religion and many Christians, Shias, Jews and atheists have been executed.

Meanwhile, the mad Mullah and his inner circle live it up and keep all the wealth for themselves. They disobey every law that would end up with the people getting executed. At the same time, the people live in fear and poverty. The country increasingly isolates itself from the world and bans tourism. Children are educated to hate certain countries. Suddenly, you have a massive disaffected youth with nothing to do (remember there is no alcohol, pubs, cinemas, sport, TV, radio, music, concerts, festivals, etc. and meetings are discouraged unless organised by the state) and are taught to hate the West. Many Wadian citizens are encouraged to join terrorist groups and Wadia shelters al Qaeda and other such groups and has many terrorist training camps on its soil.

Then, a major terrorist attack on the West takes place. Wadian natives have been identified as the major organisers. The US declares war on the Islamic Emirate of Wadia after the administration would not cooperate. As of 2015, 15 years of war have destroyed the country. The regime is long gone and the mad Mullah is dead but now ISIS have taken hold and the state is full of youths who have no hobbies (as they were banned) and who are full of hatred.

Now, Wadia does not exist. But it demonstrates the backstory of many Middle Eastern, Central Asian and North/West/East African countries. Societies have been stripped bare of culture by warped dictators and thus leave citizens bored. But nature does not like a vacuum and the hatred preached by governments in the middle east means that since drinking, sport and music are often banned, they exchange their beer glasses, footballs and guitars for guns, bombs and bullets. When the West invades and many civilians die, all the brainwashing the regime did guarantees genuine hatred and a quest for revenge.

This is what created ISIS and other groups. This mentality has to stop. Dictators have banned innocent passtimes and the West and other powers have meddled in places and have between them created a monster that has lead to ISIS and other extremism.

buried wrote: »

F**K these fundamentalist pigs. They're fascist trash who are totally bats in the head. If you start changing your life, where you want to live, where you want to visit, where you want to go etc just because this utter trash spout their utter f**king fascist, hyped, violent, propaganda gibberish then they've already won.

Nice sentiment, but me and the Missus are having serious doubts about the two weeks we booked in syria. The brochures looked lovely, but feck it. We're thinking of changing it to a week in Lanzarote.