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RTE in big trouble and pray for gerry

  • 07-04-2012 9:01pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 6,466 ✭✭✭jimmynokia


    Well gerry has left us and he was the anchor at rte,despite all the talk about his personal life has thrown a shadow over him in general.
    But he was the best on Radio and its quite clear since his untimely departure RTE are in trouble.
    We have seen they want to save money they can do this by cutting big salaries.
    Its been in several papers over the last few days,regarding RTEs TROUBLES
    So where can it begin?
    Well the wages is a beginning and some CONTRACTORS! should either be let go or take a reduction..

    So how can RTE turn around>?
    They have has alot of bad press lately confidence is low.

    NOTE this is not a gerry ryan bashing thread....He was great.....


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  • Registered Users Posts: 429 ✭✭ghiertal


    Well gerry has left us and he was the anchor at rte,despite all the talk about his personal life has thrown a shadow over him in general.
    But he was the best on Radio and its quite clear since his untimely departure RTE are in trouble.
    We have seen they want to save money they can do this by cutting big salaries.
    Its been in several papers over the last few days,regarding RTEs TROUBLES
    So where can it begin?
    Well the wages is a beginning and some CONTRACTORS! should either be let go or take a reduction..

    So how can RTE turn around>?
    They have has alot of bad press lately confidence is low.

    NOTE this is not a gerry ryan bashing thread....He was great.....[/QUOTE]

    Didnt tubs have dreams of gerry. I seem to remember him telling this to Gay Byrne in an interview. Now this, it's just bizarre. I rarely listen to 2FM these days simply for the reason that there is very little left to listen to. Tubridy is a busted flush but he still is incredibly arrogant and conceited. I hate him.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,466 ✭✭✭jimmynokia


    Tubs has openly admitted he is in fear of been let go.
    But i think its just a game in his head,a stated in several article they reckon he is only saying this to play it up to the media.
    No other station will take him,its said TV3 might be interested in some of RTEs host but will not pay the wage they command..


  • Registered Users Posts: 429 ✭✭ghiertal


    jimmynokia wrote: »
    Tubs has openly admitted he is in fear of been let go.
    But i think its just a game in his head,a stated in several article they reckon he is only saying this to play it up to the media.
    No other station will take him,its said TV3 might be interested in some of RTEs host but will not pay the wage they command..

    He is still trumpeting his supposed success on the BBC. The problem is the RTE don't have the cojones to either massively cut his wages or get rid of him. The reality is that we are stuck with this drone.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,466 ✭✭✭jimmynokia


    ghiertal wrote: »
    jimmynokia wrote: »
    Tubs has openly admitted he is in fear of been let go.
    But i think its just a game in his head,a stated in several article they reckon he is only saying this to play it up to the media.
    No other station will take him,its said TV3 might be interested in some of RTEs host but will not pay the wage they command..

    He is still trumpeting his supposed success on the BBC. The problem is the RTE don't have the cojones to either massively cut his wages or get rid of him. The reality is that we are stuck with this drone.


    Well if the BBC want him good let him go.
    From what I've read some liked him and some said wtf?
    He won't command a wage he is on now anywhere.
    He will soon have his new book and get silly money for it.
    If the uk like him well and good they see him as a Terry wogan.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,395 ✭✭✭✭mikemac1


    Lots of young talent in Ireland, most of them work at TG4

    Give the RTÉ contractors a lowball offer, they know they won't find similar elsewhere and if they do, let them walk

    For example......Joe Duffy might have taken a paycut but he's still way overpaid and Philip Boucher Hayes was excellent and became very popular when he filled in for a few weeks


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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,630 ✭✭✭steelcityblues


    As someone else said in another forum, the chap has become twice as annoying since his death, then when he was alive. :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 131 ✭✭Andremac96


    In my Opinion he isnt very good in general just rambles on about everything we dont want to know about his personal life but he seems to do this often


  • Registered Users Posts: 811 ✭✭✭todolist


    I believe Gerry used to justify his inflated salary by saying he brought the Advertising revenue into 2FM.It's clear since his death that 2FM is a busted flush.RTE need to close 2FM,get rid of the Orchestras.TG4 television that costs millions but only has an audience of a few thousand must close.It's wrong that the state can harass and threaten people with jail for not paying the Television Tax.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,349 ✭✭✭squonk


    todolist wrote: »
    I believe Gerry used to justify his inflated salary by saying he brought the Advertising revenue into 2FM.It's clear since his death that 2FM is a busted flush.RTE need to close 2FM,get rid of the Orchestras.TG4 television that costs millions but only has an audience of a few thousand must close.It's wrong that the state can harass and threaten people with jail for not paying the Television Tax.

    Get real. TG4 provides a very valuable service that isn't being met by either RTE 1 or 2. It's got quality programming and I see it as providing the type of quality Irish programming that RTE trumpet but don't/can't provide themselves. I for one would be up in arms at any suggestion that it should be closed. it has done more for the Irish language in the past 15 years than 50 years of beating Peig and m'Asal Beag Dubh into people managed.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,683 ✭✭✭plasmaguy


    Unfortunately everyone in RTE seems to be deluded including the presenters.

    They want to pay themselves Celtic Tiger salaries in recessionary times.

    Joe Duffy, seems a nice guy, but ffs, there is no talent demanded in his job, all he says is "go ahead ____", or "you're on Liveline, go ahead" for an hour a day if you include news and breaks. Wtf? Anyone with a brain could do that.

    It's virtually the same for all the RTE "stars".

    90% of their craft is done by people in the background, spinning the discs, doing the research, telling them what to say and what to ask.

    There is no talent as such demanded, yet even so, many of them manage to make a balls of it.

    I don't think they will let Tubs go anyways, they'd rather shut down RTE than let their alledgedly "prized asset" go. Tubs is only taking the p*ss when he says he fears for his job. He knows his ass is welded to the LLS and 2fm morning hotseat for infinity it seems, no matter how bad things get, because no-one in RTE has the courage to do anything about it.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,626 ✭✭✭GSF


    Suppose its easier to pray to Gerry Ryan than come up with any original new ideas.


  • Registered Users Posts: 429 ✭✭ghiertal


    GSF wrote: »
    Suppose its easier to pray to Gerry Ryan than come up with any original new ideas.

    The difference between Gerry and tubridy was that Gerry actually cared for his listeners while tubridy just goes through the motions. Gerry poured his heart and soul into that programme and it probably killed him in the end. Its almost two years on now and its finally hitting home that rte will never really replace him.


  • Registered Users Posts: 811 ✭✭✭todolist


    squonk wrote: »
    Get real. TG4 provides a very valuable service that isn't being met by either RTE 1 or 2. It's got quality programming and I see it as providing the type of quality Irish programming that RTE trumpet but don't/can't provide themselves. I for one would be up in arms at any suggestion that it should be closed. it has done more for the Irish language in the past 15 years than 50 years of beating Peig and m'Asal Beag Dubh into people managed.
    You need to get REAL.Nobody speaks Irish(A few thousand claim they have a few words).TG4 is costing millions.It's wrong to threaten people with jail for this nonsense.The TV tax could be reduced significantly if TG4,2fm and the other bloated RTE indulgences were shut down.It will happen eventually because Ireland is bankrupt.The Irish people are hopelessly in dept and they cant afford white elephants such as the gaylick language channel anymore.Fact of life pal.A reality check.




  • Gerry can never be replaced, but is it just me or does anyone else think that Colm Hayes is a damn good replacement? he has gerrys wit and comes across as a really nice guy. Tubridy might be a nice person but he is so boring and cringeworthy.

    As for Joe Duffy, why is his show only 1hr 15 mins? im not saying i personally would like to hear more Joe, but if he had a two hour show (for the same salary) he'd have more whingers and more advertising.

    And serioulsy, the derek mooney show - who in the hell cares about the webcam documenting the swallows nest in his garden? - heres where the cuts should be made


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,349 ✭✭✭squonk


    todolist wrote: »
    You need to get REAL.Nobody speaks Irish(A few thousand claim they have a few words).

    Are you trolling?

    As per the 2011 census of Ireland :

    Of the 1.77 million who indicated they could speak Irish,77,185 said they speak it daily outside the education system. A further 110,642 said they spoke it weekly, while 613,236 said they spoke it less often. One in four said they never spoke Irish. The numbers speaking Irish on a daily basis outside the education system increased by 5,037 persons since 2006 from 72,148 to 77,185; the numbers speaking weekly showed an increase of 7,781 persons, while those speaking Irish less often showed the largest increase of 27,139

    I think you'll agree that that is certainly a bit more than 'a few thousand'. A lot of those increases can be attributed to various different things, gaelscoileanna for instance but certainly TG4 represents a large contribution also. TG4 is a successful attempt to increase the usage of Irish properly, unlike the failed attempts of the past where Peig was learned by rote and grammar was drummed into students ad nauseum.

    Frankly there are other aspects of the national broadcaster that could be cut without a loss of a genuine public service like TG4.


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,683 ✭✭✭✭Owen


    Where are you getting those figures? A Radio Station in Cork announced a few weeks back based on figures from the census that less than 2% of the population actually use Irish in their daily lives.

    Irish Language, while I speak it fluently and enjoy it, is the most redundant thing we teach and promote in Ireland. Let it flourish on it's own by choice, but spending millions running a TV Station that has to be subtitled, and teaching our kids Irish and not a language they can actually use later in life seems ... well, stupid.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,349 ✭✭✭squonk


    The figures come from here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_language

    While I agree with some of what you say, there is a chicken and egg effect really. Lots of people will not learn the language if they have no chance to use it. It won't be widely used until a lot of people speak it. TG4 is providing excellent programming that people will want to watch. The fact that there are subtitles allows them to partake also but the unseen effect is that you're also listening while you're reading those subtitles so, over time, your Irish does improve. I hold that as a good thing. The language is part of our culture. I think that's worth saving as it's part of our national identity. There are so many influences out there culturally today that people are free to pick and choose.

    Looking longer term, if today we let our language go what about maybe 50 years down the road if perhaps the GAA isn't doing that well and is in serious decline. Should we stand idly by and let that go? Fifty years after that if traditional music is in decline and tunes are being lost due to players dying off, should we just let that go too? Where do we end up?

    Thanks to TG4 we not only get to enjoy our League matches during the winter but we also get first rate traditional music and other aspects of Irish culture on a weekly basis. that's what I want to watch. I watch TG4 far more than any other Irish station and I find very little of interest on RTE1 or 2. TG4 does what it does very, very well and should be commended for it. That's not to say that they couldn't be doing more but for a relatively young station, there's a lot they're doing right.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,087 ✭✭✭Clanket


    I never speak Irish but find myself watching TG4 far more than I do RTE1 or 2. There's no way it should be cut. It's great.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,787 ✭✭✭Jayob10


    surely Tubs, Duffy and co. back up their salary demands with advertising revenue figures no? I'd imagine this is how RTE make their money, ads during the late late, ads being premium rate during breaks on Duffy's show etc????

    Now I for one would love to see the back of some of these talentless hacks, but simply replacing Duffy with a lesser name would also impact upon ad sales i'd imagine. Its not a simple case of like for like.

    Its quite simple though, certain presenters are appealing to nobody outside of RTE. Well not to the value of what RTE pay them anyways. Duffy, Finucane for starters would not be major names anywhere else. RTE pay the most, so even if Newstalk, today fm or whoever wanted them, they would have to take a significant paycut.

    Tubridy as bad as he is would find his niche as a middle of the road irishman in the UK. The ship may have sailed for Kenny and O'Callaghan also.

    RTE would be a very exciting project for someone with genuine vision, who was willing to cull the deadwood, end the culture of nepotism and promote value for money in terms of original, watchable programming.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,024 ✭✭✭Owryan


    plasmaguy wrote: »

    Joe Duffy, seems a nice guy, but ffs, there is no talent demanded in his job, all he says is "go ahead ____", or "you're on Liveline, go ahead" for an hour a day if you include news and breaks. Wtf? Anyone with without a brain could do that.

    FYP

    My biggest gripe with rte is how it uses its own shows to promote each other, every talk show will feature the guest/presenter/star of another rte show and its very in your face .

    Something else i hate is the way they seem to buy up all the latest US shows and stick them on at all hours, i personally believe they are buying them up to stop tv3 getting them .

    Oh and teir big name "stars" are grossly over paid, self important twats


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  • Registered Users Posts: 8,349 ✭✭✭squonk


    In fairness, the BBC are guilty of using their own shows to promote their other shows as well. I used to love the Jonathan Ross show on the beeb. The interviews were always top notch and great craic, except at least every fortnight he'd have some comedian on or some actor who just happened to have something starting on BBC 1 or 2 the following weekend. Lowest of the low was when he had the three judges or whatever they are from Strictly Come Dancing on. I've never watched the show and I certainly didn't want to spend part of my Friday night listening to 3 z-listers plugging some piece of crap I had no interest in! OK, he had hollywood actors on plugging pieces of crap too but at least he knocked a bit of fun out of them and you could laugh along!


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,349 ✭✭✭squonk


    In fairness, the BBC are guilty of using their own shows to promote their other shows as well. I used to love the Jonathan Ross show on the beeb. The interviews were always top notch and great craic, except at least every fortnight he'd have some comedian on or some actor who just happened to have something starting on BBC 1 or 2 the following weekend. Lowest of the low was when he had the three judges or whatever they are from Strictly Come Dancing on. I've never watched the show and I certainly didn't want to spend part of my Friday night listening to 3 z-listers plugging some piece of crap I had no interest in! OK, he had hollywood actors on plugging pieces of crap too but at least he knocked a bit of fun out of them and you could laugh along!


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,466 ✭✭✭jimmynokia


    Well gerry is 2years gone so RIP.
    RTE have struggled since.
    IvE SEEN SEVERAL threads opened and closed today on this,some for no reason and some for a reason,my thoughts on seen who closed them a bit strange,but when you actually think about it i know why.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,221 ✭✭✭BrianD


    squonk wrote: »
    In fairness, the BBC are guilty of using their own shows to promote their other shows as well. I used to love the Jonathan Ross show on the beeb. The interviews were always top notch and great craic, except at least every fortnight he'd have some comedian on or some actor who just happened to have something starting on BBC 1 or 2 the following weekend. Lowest of the low was when he had the three judges or whatever they are from Strictly Come Dancing on. I've never watched the show and I certainly didn't want to spend part of my Friday night listening to 3 z-listers plugging some piece of crap I had no interest in! OK, he had hollywood actors on plugging pieces of crap too but at least he knocked a bit of fun out of them and you could laugh along!

    Would agree. Was listening to BBC Radio 1 yesterday while up North. Lost count of the number of times the presenter referenced The voice. Also some of the tracks e.g. Stereophonics were featured in the Top 40 because their track was featured in the show.

    Graham Norton also plugs TV shows.


  • Registered Users Posts: 99 ✭✭suzzi


    To get back to the OP question;

    Yes, RTE are in trouble. They paid overrated salaries to underrated people (presenters/producers etc) when they took their eye off the ball.

    Now they are accountable to the public and they pontificate to us (the people who pay their licence fee) how terrible it is to be "struggling" without an ounce of irony!

    No. We should not pray for Gerry Ryan. He lived his life as he wanted, took the money and, at the same time, sang the same old tune as his colleagues.

    What he did in his private life was his own business but I would like now not to have to listen how we cannot do without him.

    Move on RTE. Do the job that I pay you for. 160E this month for what?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,489 ✭✭✭Yamanoto


    jimmynokia wrote: »
    Well gerry has left us and he was the anchor at rte

    Topical :confused:


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,741 ✭✭✭withless


    It would appear that the wait for a new Gerry (an RTE personality with a personality) will be a long one. Their breeding grounds such as kids tv or sports has been fallow for a long time.

    When is the tv license up for debate by our glorious leaders in de Dail?


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,466 ✭✭✭jimmynokia


    Yamanoto wrote: »
    Topical :confused:
    yeah you have me :confused: now


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,937 ✭✭✭patwicklow


    Do us all a favor ZTE and close up shop its very very over rated with over rated knob heads as the so call stars they could not even be called Z listers.So time to break up the cartel..


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