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AGS v's APS

  • 21-04-2014 11:47pm
    #1
    Capri
    Registered Users Posts: 4,499 ✭✭✭


    Any views on the different aspects of being a Garda in a small town v's being an Airport Police officer in the 'small town' of Dublin Airport


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  • #2
    Zambia
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,333 ✭✭✭Zambia


    Capri wrote: »
    Any views on the different aspects of being a Garda in a small town v's being an Airport Police officer in the 'small town' of Dublin Airport


    Jesus your stretching to find a similarity there.


  • #3
    Mikros
    Registered Users Posts: 498 ✭✭Mikros


    Most small towns don't have 20 million or so passengers going through it each year.


  • #4
    Mr Jinx
    Registered Users Posts: 434 ✭✭Mr Jinx


    Mikros wrote: »
    Most small towns don't have 20 million or so passengers going through it each year.

    While at the same time most airports dont have a 50 square kilometres of rural countryside where they have to know all the surnames of families in the area!:)


  • #5
    kravmaga
    Registered Users Posts: 1,945 ✭✭✭kravmaga


    Capri wrote: »
    Any views on the different aspects of being a Garda in a small town v's being an Airport Police officer in the 'small town' of Dublin Airport

    You mean Mules Vrs Joeys, lol


  • #6
    An Cigire
    Registered Users Posts: 250 ✭✭An Cigire


    Well a guard is a guard and has all the powers & privileges as such.. Regardless of were they are stationed.

    Airport Police are daa employees who have powers to act as an authorised officer under very limited aviation acts along with enforcement of the airport bye laws.

    There is currently no provision for them to prosecute any offender. Everything is passed over to the Gardai to dealt with..

    So I suppose the big difference is a garda deals with an incident/crime in its entirety while the daa officer hands everything over to the gardai after the initial arrest/detection..

    The DAP is simply a section within the daa who use airport police as its working title as it carries greater weight then Security or authorised officer and allows better recognition to members of the public..

    They do a fine a job in relation to safety & security of a airport but would not be a true law enforcement agency in the true sense of the word.


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  • #7
    jbkenn
    Registered Users Posts: 919 ✭✭✭jbkenn


    Capri wrote: »
    Any views on the different aspects of being a Garda in a small town v's being an Airport Police officer in the 'small town' of Dublin Airport
    One is a cushy number, and the other is an even cushier number.:D


  • #8
    shampon
    Registered Users Posts: 580 ✭✭✭shampon


    An Cigire wrote: »
    Well a guard is a guard and has all the powers & privileges as such.. Regardless of were they are stationed.

    Airport Police are daa employees who have powers to act as an authorised officer under very limited aviation acts along with enforcement of the airport bye laws.

    There is currently no provision for them to prosecute any offender. Everything is passed over to the Gardai to dealt with..

    So I suppose the big difference is a garda deals with an incident/crime in its entirety while the daa officer hands everything over to the gardai after the initial arrest/detection..

    The DAP is simply a section within the daa who use airport police as its working title as it carries greater weight then Security or authorised officer and allows better recognition to members of the public..

    They do a fine a job in relation to safety & security of a airport but would not be a true law enforcement agency in the true sense of the word.

    Can you look over me files?


  • #9
    sdanseo
    Registered Users Posts: 9,233 ✭✭✭sdanseo


    Small town is not a synonym for an airport in any sense, not even population. A large sized town is 5,000-10,000 people. The airport carries 30,000-55,000 people through it a day.

    It's more like working in a small city, which never sleeps, is always on a heightened alert for suspicious people and bags, half of which is totally off limits to anyone that hasn't been searched, and the passengers in which are almost all in "total muppet" mode which seems to be brought on by the travelling.

    Airport Police get a huge amount of stick based around their status, I don't think that's fair. Nor do I think they are Gardaí, although they have the same powers that Gardaí have within the airport. They may not activate prosecutions but they do attend court. In the UK, no police officer prosecutes (the CPS, equivalent to DPP) does all of that, so that's not necessarily a fair comparison. Doesn't give UK cops any less of a task.

    One thing I will say against them, they overreact horrendously to small fires. There's a long story there, I'll tell it some time.


  • #10
    Capri
    Registered Users Posts: 4,499 ✭✭✭Capri


    Moving comparisons along a bit to AGS, are there units within AGS that think they're 'superior' to the ordinary member - remember being involved in a covert operation to ID a house where a shotgun had been carried inside - along come the 'glory boys' the wrong way down a one-way to disrupt the whole operation :mad::mad:


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