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M17/M18 - Gort to Tuam [open to traffic]

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  • #2042
    f2
    Registered Users Posts: 231 ✭✭f2


    Very little fencing at the Tuam end, but I expect any early work will be at the other end, Tuam end has some swamp so expect rock to be brought from Athenry, Gort end to Tuam


  • #2043
    GDSGR8
    Registered Users Posts: 76 ✭✭GDSGR8


    f2 wrote: »
    Very little fencing at the Tuam end, but I expect any early work will be at the other end, Tuam end has some swamp so expect rock to be brought from Athenry, Gort end to Tuam

    Too far to haul rock from gort to tuam.


  • #2044
    f2
    Registered Users Posts: 231 ✭✭f2


    GDSGR8 wrote: »
    Too far to haul rock from gort to tuam.

    Possibly Gort but certainly not Athenry, also it was stated at the oral hearing that there was enough rock towards the southern end to meet the requirements of the northern sections.


  • #2045
    JupiterKid
    Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 12,564 Mod ✭✭✭✭JupiterKid


    So have any actual earthworks started on this scheme yet?


  • #2046
    antoobrien
    Registered Users Posts: 6,106 ✭✭✭antoobrien


    GDSGR8 wrote: »
    Too far to haul rock from gort to tuam.

    They don't have to, there's a quarry near Rathmorrisey that has got a 5 year license to operate an ashphalt plant (over a year and a half ago).

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=81291449&postcount=1162


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  • #2047
    Gerobrien25
    Registered Users Posts: 52 ✭✭Gerobrien25


    Has anyone seen or heard of work starting on the motorway yet?


  • #2048
    glineli
    Registered Users Posts: 1,098 ✭✭✭glineli


    October I was told recently


  • #2049
    annfield1978
    Registered Users Posts: 564 ✭✭✭annfield1978


    Construction to start in new year, detailed design just commencing


  • #2050
    f2
    Registered Users Posts: 231 ✭✭f2


    annfield1978 wrote: »
    Construction to start in new year, detailed design just commencing

    Is the detailed design being done in this country, I heard a rumour it was been done abroad, would it be possible!


  • #2051
    spacetweek
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 4,951 Mod ✭✭✭✭spacetweek


    annfield1978 wrote: »
    Construction to start in new year, detailed design just commencing
    Unlikely, companies are anxious to start work right after contract sign.


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  • #2052
    Gerobrien25
    Registered Users Posts: 52 ✭✭Gerobrien25


    spacetweek wrote: »
    Unlikely, companies are anxious to start work right after contract sign.

    I was of the understanding that construction had to start within a month of the contracts been signed. This was the case with other major infrastructure projects


  • #2053
    spacetweek
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 4,951 Mod ✭✭✭✭spacetweek


    Gerobrien25 wrote: »
    I was of the understanding that construction had to start within a month of the contracts been signed. This was the case with other major infrastructure projects
    It's been speculated on elsewhere in the thread but the construction company are likely preparing stuff already, but not necessarily in places visible from existing roads.


  • #2054
    GDSGR8
    Registered Users Posts: 76 ✭✭GDSGR8


    Gerobrien25 wrote: »
    I was of the understanding that construction had to start within a month of the contracts been signed. This was the case with other major infrastructure projects

    Not in the case of a design/build or PPP as is the case here. The contractor has to complete the detailed design and have it approved by the employer. Takes at least 4 months, probably more for a contract this size. The designers are a mixture of irish and british companies so some of the design work is likely being done in the UK.


  • #2055
    annfield1978
    Registered Users Posts: 564 ✭✭✭annfield1978


    Design work being done is Ireland UK and Poland


  • #2056
    Ascii
    Registered Users Posts: 387 ✭✭Ascii


    annfield1978 wrote: »
    Design work being done is Ireland UK and Poland

    Source ? What element of the design in being done abroad ? Both of the design teams have substantial offices and employees in Ireland so I would not expect them to carry out such work abroad.


  • #2057
    spacetweek
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 4,951 Mod ✭✭✭✭spacetweek


    annfield1978 wrote: »
    Design work being done is Ireland UK and Poland
    Annfield, you talk like an insider but we're gonna need to know where you're getting your info from.


  • #2058
    yer man!
    Registered Users Posts: 1,646 ✭✭✭yer man!


    Surveying work on the motorway in Gort today, good few engineers walking about.


  • #2059
    sonnyblack
    Registered Users Posts: 231 ✭✭sonnyblack


    IMO they will be starting the cuttings and earth moving prior to requiring the detailed design for the structures. If the Engineers are on the ground, then the earthmoving will soon be starting.


  • #2060
    flat 2 the.....
    Closed Accounts Posts: 30 ✭flat 2 the.....


    Bridge structures start first , it wont be till later on earth works will start and it will be next summer before the main rock cuts and associated work will be done
    The earth work is the quickest part to be done , its the desgsign that holds all these jobs up , the moterway way jobs I have worked on usually end up with earthworks being done and waiting for the designers to complete another section


  • #2061
    GalwayMagpie
    Registered Users Posts: 163 ✭✭GalwayMagpie


    http://claregalway.info/nuacht/news/2014/06/claregalway-bypass-finally-scrapped/
    claregalway.info wrote:
    It was understood by local residents that once the Gort–Tuam motorway got the go-ahead, that funding would be provided for the Claregalway inner relief road.
    But now Deputy Noel Grealish has been informed by the Department of Transport that there will be no funding for the project this year. The project was ready to go to the compulsory purchase of land stage.
    There is no commitment from Minister Leo Varadkar that any funding for the much needed bypass will be provided in the future.


    Whilst it will have an impact I cannot see this Motorway giving the much needed relief to Claregalway that some think it will.


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  • #2062
    popa smurf
    Registered Users Posts: 379 ✭✭popa smurf


    is there going to be a toll on this new motorway i am sure its covered on this tread but am too lazy to read all 138 pages


  • #2063
    Zubeneschamali
    Registered Users Posts: 16,686 ✭✭✭✭Zubeneschamali


    popa smurf wrote: »
    is there going to be a toll on this new motorway

    No.


  • #2064
    muchos04
    Registered Users Posts: 215 ✭✭muchos04


    Anything happening on the ground with this project??


  • #2065
    etchyed
    Registered Users Posts: 674 ✭✭✭etchyed


    spacetweek wrote: »
    Annfield, you talk like an insider but we're gonna need to know where you're getting your info from.
    You're not gonna need to know anything. If the person is an insider, they're hardly going to want to reveal who they are. If their assertions are found to be correct, you'll know what they can be trusted.


  • #2066
    f2
    Registered Users Posts: 231 ✭✭f2


    No havent seen any action on the Tuam end


  • #2067
    annfield1978
    Registered Users Posts: 564 ✭✭✭annfield1978


    You wont see any action until next year, and by that I mean serious earthworks, structures etc

    The three Contractors are unlikely to start in January /February if the weather is poor, more likely March

    Otherwise there will be a bit of site set up, maybe a bit of fencing

    there is some site investigation to get done, but dont get too excited when you see a few rigs dotted around


  • #2068
    flat 2 the.....
    Closed Accounts Posts: 30 ✭flat 2 the.....


    Does Roadbridge civil have the plant and machinery needed for the construction of this road available in this county at the moment or is there any company left in ireland to faciltate the earthworks and structures on this road


  • #2069
    red bull
    Registered Users Posts: 1,371 ✭✭✭red bull


    flat 2 the..... wrote: »
    Does Roadbridge civil have the plant and machinery needed for the construction of this road available in this county at the moment or is there any company left in ireland to faciltate the earthworks and structures on this road
    Willis bros


  • #2070
    flat 2 the.....
    Closed Accounts Posts: 30 ✭flat 2 the.....


    red bull wrote: »
    Willis bros

    They have a fair fleet but not a hope with 57km of moterway to be built and they seem to have never taken on more than a 20km stretch that I know of


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  • #2071
    Carawaystick
    Registered Users Posts: 8,779 ✭✭✭Carawaystick


    annfield1978 wrote: »
    You wont see any action until next year, and by that I mean serious earthworks, structures etc

    The three Contractors are unlikely to start in January /February if the weather is poor, more likely March

    Otherwise there will be a bit of site set up, maybe a bit of fencing

    there is some site investigation to get done, but dont get too excited when you see a few rigs dotted around
    There may be trees/ditches cut down in the winter, its harder to do in the nesting season


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