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Books everyone should read

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 110 ✭✭zero_hope


    Permabear wrote: »
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    By reading Ayn Rand novels I learned that woman enjoy rape and by reading statements from other leading Objectivists I realise that we should commit genocide on arabs and iranians.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker


    Great thread, I'm currently reading Capitalism and Freedom which is excellent I must admit, especially for someone so ignorant in matters of economics and politics such as myself.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,476 ✭✭✭sarkozy


    The Transformation of Ireland - Diarmaid Ferriter - a historical work covering Ireland 1900-2000 but with political import, incisively written.

    Ill Fares the Land - Tony Judt - a bite-sized treatise on why we need social democracy more than ever.

    The State in Africa - Jean-Francois Bayart - an authoritative, structural account of how and why sub-Saharan African states developed as they did.

    Disciplining Democracy - Rita Abrahamsen - a 'neo-Gramscian' account of how the World Bank's promotion of 'good governance' is actually an extension of failed IMF structural adjustment policies and therefore anti-democratic.

    Fleeing Vesuvius - Edited by Richard Douthwaite - an interesting collection of environmental economics articles relevant to Ireland.

    Reinventing Ireland - Edited Peadar Kirby - published in the early 2000s, an academic critique of Celtic Tiger Ireland from a range of perspectives.

    Violence & Vulnerability - Peadar Kirby - an attempt at small 'big theory' to explain how many countries may be becoming more 'developed' but we are consequently becoming more 'vulnerable'.

    Kicking Away the Ladder - Ha Joon Chang - a classic of development political-economics, an authoritative yet heterodox account of how south-east Asian countries - and all countries - developed because of decisive state intervention.

    The Great Transformation - Karl Polanyi - a classic of economic history, Polyani's book proposes a dynamic of capitalism whereby political-economies shift between markets being under social control and society being under social control.

    The Invention of Tradition - Eric Hobsbawm - an amazing story about how the 'traditions' we believe to be so old were actually invented during the industrial revolution for political ends.

    Capital Vol 1. - Karl Marx - what efla said - a work of incredible genius and a historical oddity that continues to offer people different ways of thinking about our world.

    No Logo - Naomi Klein - really the first critical account of globalised consumerism and the global social justice movement - brilliantly readable.

    Open Veins of Latin America - Eduardo Galeano - finally re-published after decades out of print, this passionately written history of the exploitation of Latin America by Uruguay's most famous journalist is just incredible.

    Spaces of Hope - David Harvey - an amazing story of urban development, its ideological underpinnings and our urban future.

    Lipstick Traces - Greil Marcus - a famous rock journalist/critic links the Paris Commune, Dadaism, Situationism, Punk and Post-Punk with key movements in European and American philosophy and politics. With pictures!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 356 ✭✭hoorsmelt


    The libertarians seem to infest this section (:pac:) so I think I'll recommend a couple of books on the left, and from a left wing POV, to balance things up.

    A good history of the West European left and social democracy in action is '100 years of Socialism- a history of the West European left' by Donald Sassoon, a brick of a book but very well researched and interesting with alot of figures, graphs, comparisons and policy case studies from most of the countries in western Europe in the latter half of the 20th century.

    Another good one is the Prison Notebooks by Gramsci, probably the most influential and original Marxist theorist in the middle third of the 20th century.

    Lenin's pamphlet 'Imperialism- the highest stage of capitalism' is also highly recommended, it's a good overview of how globalisation progressed and why poorer countries are unable to develop themselves by relying on FDI. Another good read by him is 'What is to be done?', the book in which he sets forth his ideas of how to organise a vanguard party- it has to rank as one of the most influential works on political organisation ever written, even if you disagree with its main premises.

    James Connolly's book 'Labour in Irish History' is a must for anyone with an interest in Connolly and his place as a very accomplished political writer, with his own independent socialist positions. Another good book (at least in fact, if not in conclusions) is Liam Cahill's book 'The Limerick Soviet', about a general strike and mini socialist revolution in Limerick where workers ran the city for two weeks, continuing production and printing their own currency. (it can be found online incidentall, here's a link http://www.limericksoviet.com/Book.html)

    Friedrich Engels, Marx's great companion, has a number of interesting works which helped develop dialectical materialism and historical materialism, the two non-economic facets of what came to be orthodox marxism: 'Socialism- Scientific or Utopian?', and 'The origins of the family, private property, and the state'.

    Another good work on the Soviet Union, and how it degenerated to Stalinism, is Leon Trotsky's work, 'The Revolution Betrayed', which is quite an interesting work as a left-wing explanation of how Stalin took over the USSR.

    There are a few other quite interesting books I can think of off the top of my head, 'Ship of Fools' by Fintan O'Toole is quite a good explanation of the causes of the crisis in Ireland, 'The Lost Revolution' is a good by about the Worker's Party and the influence they had in the past, and 'Devils' by Fyodor Dostoesvsky is quite a good fictional portrayal, albeit from a reactionary Slavophile perspective, of the political tensions and revolutionary politics in mid 19th century Russia.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 167 ✭✭Mr Vengeance


    Peter Mathews TD recommended an economics book last night on Vincent Browne as essential reading - I can't remember the name of it - does anyone know?


    Cheers.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,565 ✭✭✭southsiderosie


    Stumbled across this thread and figured I'd add my two cents...maybe we can get another round of recommendations?

    William Easterly - The Elusive Quest for Growth: Economists' Adventures and Misadventures in the Tropics
    This book is a good introduction to development economics and why it has failed over the last fifty years. It is very accessible, even for those without an economics background, but it also includes a scholarly overview of theories of growth and development.

    Samuel Huntington - Political Order in Changing Societies
    Goes a long way in explaining the failures of democratization in many post-colonial and developing societies.

    E.E. Schattschneider - The Semi-Sovereign People: A Realist's View of Democracy in America
    Very short, but a great treatise on pluralism and political conflict.

    Mike Royko - Boss
    Perhaps the best insight into big-city machine politics ever written.

    Mancur Olson - The Logic of Collective Action
    This book has heavily influenced economics, political science, and sociology. Makes an argument for the irrationality of collective action.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,706 ✭✭✭junder


    John pilgers 'hidden agendas'

    Eamon Collins 'killing rage' good insight into the pira


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 14,463 Mod ✭✭✭✭johnnyskeleton


    Valmont wrote: »
    Great idea for a thread! I can think of a few I want to read already.

    It's a work of fiction but also a philosophical treatise and a meditation on the real nature of the engines of progress: rational self-interest, individual rights, and a free economy.

    Or romanticised delusion. So an heiress who takes wild risks based on passion to save her ailing business and an entrepeneur whose big innovation was to make other (from his pov inferior)people invent a magical alloy are somehow captains of industry, eh?

    It could be written by sean quinn, how all the state looters are trying to scoop up his entitlement to a massive business empire.

    When I first read it I thought it was just unrealistic. Now having seen the desparation of the economic crash I know there are some people who genuinely think like her characters.

    As to recommendations, I would rather suggest how to read not what to read. You shouldn't read only those view pouts that you are iterested in, and you should read everything with scepticism.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,142 ✭✭✭Eggy Baby!


    The leftie members of the site [an especially the "occupy movement" extremists] could do with a read of Animal Farm, before proceeding to read 1984

    You do realise Orwell was a socialist don't you?

    EDIT: The guy already got hit with the truth stick


    The Taliban by Ahmed Rashid is very good.

    A friend of mine recommended Lions, Donkeys and Dinosaurs by Lewis Page. Its essentially about how wasteful the British army is.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,142 ✭✭✭Eggy Baby!


    Just bought I, Putin by Jennifer Ciotta on Amazon. Will read and post thoughts when done.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,488 ✭✭✭Denerick


    Modern(ish) Political History:

    -Postwar by Tony Judt
    -Empire by Niall Ferguson
    -Origins of the Second World War by AJP Taylor
    -The Transformation of Ireland: 1900-2000 by Diarmuid Ferriter (Also useful: 'The Modernisation of Ireland 1848-1918' by J.J. Lee, 'Modern Ireland 1600-1972' by R.F. Foster, 'Ireland Since the Famine' by F.S.L. Lyons - and thats just the general survey histories)
    -States of Ireland by Conor Cruise O'Brien (This is more of a polemic that actual history, but fascinating nonetheless)
    -The four European history books by Eric Hobsbawm (Something of an ideological relic but still interesting)

    Base Texts

    -The Bible
    -Plato's Republic
    -Machiavelli's 'The Prince'
    -The Communist Manifesto (I haven't actually read Capital so I couldn't possibly recommend it)
    -Edmund Burke's 'Reflections on the Revolution in France'. - Of all the books I've read this has influenced me the most. At its heart is a reactionary and conservative insanity, but more broadly, and when treated with more kindness, you see a principle of ideological moderation, tolerance, and respect for fundamental rights and liberties that the extreme fervour of revolution tends to trample on.)
    -Thomas Paine's 'Common Sense' and 'The Rights of Man'
    -Collected pamphlets of Rousseau
    ETC. !

    Political/Philosophical satire and/or parody
    -The Ragged Trousered Philanthropists by Robert Tressel (Currently reading)
    -Anything by Orwell - particularly Animal Farm & 1984 but also 'Coming up for Air' and 'Homage to Catalonia' (Which is a memoir but still relevant if you fear deliberate misinformation perpetuated by the powerful)
    -Catch 22 by Joseph Heller (anti bureaucratism)
    -One Flew over the Cuckoo's Nest by Ken Kesey (Liberal Humanism Vs Rational Behaviourism - guess which side I come out in favour of)
    -Of Mice and Men by John Steinbeck (Ultimate denunciation of the 'American Dream')
    -Babbit by Sinclair Lewis


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,483 ✭✭✭Fenian Army


    Ireland her own - T.A Jackson

    Ten Men dead

    And above all: "Northern Ireland - The Orange State" by Michael Farrell


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,483 ✭✭✭Fenian Army


    Denerick wrote: »
    Modern(ish) Political History:

    -Postwar by Tony Judt
    -Empire by Niall Ferguson
    -Origins of the Second World War by AJP Taylor
    -The Transformation of Ireland: 1900-2000 by Diarmuid Ferriter (Also useful: 'The Modernisation of Ireland 1848-1918' by J.J. Lee, 'Modern Ireland 1600-1972' by R.F. Foster, 'Ireland Since the Famine' by F.S.L. Lyons - and thats just the general survey histories)
    -States of Ireland by Conor Cruise O'Brien (This is more of a polemic that actual history, but fascinating nonetheless)
    -The four European history books by Eric Hobsbawm (Something of an ideological relic but still interesting)

    Base Texts

    -The Bible
    -Plato's Republic
    -Machiavelli's 'The Prince'
    -The Communist Manifesto (I haven't actually read Capital so I couldn't possibly recommend it)
    -Edmund Burke's 'Reflections on the Revolution in France'. - Of all the books I've read this has influenced me the most. At its heart is a reactionary and conservative insanity, but more broadly, and when treated with more kindness, you see a principle of ideological moderation, tolerance, and respect for fundamental rights and liberties that the extreme fervour of revolution tends to trample on.)
    -Thomas Paine's 'Common Sense' and 'The Rights of Man'
    -Collected pamphlets of Rousseau
    ETC. !

    Political/Philosophical satire and/or parody
    -The Ragged Trousered Philanthropists by Robert Tressel (Currently reading)
    -Anything by Orwell - particularly Animal Farm & 1984 but also 'Coming up for Air' and 'Homage to Catalonia' (Which is a memoir but still relevant if you fear deliberate misinformation perpetuated by the powerful)
    -Catch 22 by Joseph Heller (anti bureaucratism)
    -One Flew over the Cuckoo's Nest by Ken Kesey (Liberal Humanism Vs Rational Behaviourism - guess which side I come out in favour of)
    -Of Mice and Men by John Steinbeck (Ultimate denunciation of the 'American Dream')
    -Babbit by Sinclair Lewis

    Some excellent books there - Haven't read The Transformation of Ireland: 1900-2000 by Diarmuid Ferriter yet, what did you think of it?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,488 ✭✭✭Denerick


    Some excellent books there - Haven't read The Transformation of Ireland: 1900-2000 by Diarmuid Ferriter yet, what did you think of it?

    I was very impressed with it. He has a real passion and understanding of Ireland in the Free State years (The most interesting part of the book) Can't flaw him as a revisionist or a republican either. Of course he has bias but I think he is largely outside the Irish historical culture wars.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,856 ✭✭✭Valmont


    As to recommendations, I would rather suggest how to read not what to read. You shouldn't read only those view pouts that you are iterested in, and you should read everything with scepticism.
    I'm not sure why it frightens you so much that a libertarian might read and recommend Ayn Rand novels! For your information I just finished Free Market Madness and I was disappointed only in that Ubel bases his argument far too heavily on obesity. I was expecting a more widely sourced put-down of free-market economic theories.

    A very concise and readable introduction to Austrian economics is Economics in One Lesson by Henry Hazlitt. Considering many of you here have the indirect hobby of arguing with libertarians, this book may be an excellent source for some ammunition!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,797 ✭✭✭KyussBishop


    I also increasingly don't understand most Austro-Libertarian posters complete lack of skepticism towards the texts (and often views) they promote; things that are supportive of Austrian economics/Libertarianism are given unquestioned credence, and only stuff that is critical of it is treated with skepticism, and when arguments countering criticism fall short, the criticism is then just ignored and not acknowledged.
    Valmont wrote: »
    A very concise and readable introduction to Austrian economics is Economics in One Lesson by Henry Hazlitt. Considering many of you here have the indirect hobby of arguing with libertarians, this book may be an excellent source for some ammunition!
    Have you any criticisms of 'Economics in One Lesson' yourself, or done any research on the credibility of book, or looked for criticism of it online?

    I've encountered it before here and have been critical of it before (and a google search or two is quick to find ammunition), but I want to see if you are able to be skeptical or critical of it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,826 ✭✭✭doc_17


    I really enjoyed Samantha Power's book about the various genocides that have occured in Europe in the 20th century. Found it really detailed, forensic in a way.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,633 ✭✭✭SamHarris


    Clash of Civilizations and the remaking of the world order - Samuel P Huntington. Probably the most influential political theory book of the last 20 years.

    The State of Africa - Martin Meredith. An excellent over view of post colonial Africa. Tragic, but explains excelently why it is where it is.

    The Rise and Fall of Communism -Archie Brown. Explains why communism both worked and didnt. Never properly understood why people are still so ideologically dedicated to countries that practice/practiced this form of society untill this lay out the development of peoples attitudes.

    The Opium Wars (cant remember the author) - an incredibly important event nearly forgotten in the West, and when remembered poorly understood.

    The Just War In Islam (again cant remember the author, sorry) - lays out the relgious basis for the various violent islamic movements in the world today. The absolutists who believe that violence is emblamatic of Islam, and those who believe it has nothing to do with Islam per se are both wrong, and this book lays out why. Very sympathetic (in a good way) and is both depressing and hopeful in equal parts.


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 14,463 Mod ✭✭✭✭johnnyskeleton


    Valmont wrote: »
    I'm not sure why it frightens you so much that a libertarian might read and recommend Ayn Rand novels! For your information I just finished Free Market Madness and I was disappointed only in that Ubel bases his argument far too heavily on obesity. I was expecting a more widely sourced put-down of free-market economic theories.

    It doesn't frighten me at all, nor did I say as such. I simply said that I thought Atlas Shrugged was rubbish and if Rand's goal was to extoll the virtues of self made individuals, she made some very poor choices for her character's backgrounds.
    Valmont wrote: »
    A very concise and readable introduction to Austrian economics is Economics in One Lesson by Henry Hazlitt. Considering many of you here have the indirect hobby of arguing with libertarians, this book may be an excellent source for some ammunition!

    Sigh. While I appreciate that this thread is about book recommendations, it is not a particularly convincing to say:

    If you had read [insert name of book] then you'd know what you're talking about.



    Anyway, just finished reading The political animal by Jeremy Paxman. A good, if by necessity anecdotal, description of the motiviations and obsessions of UK parliamentarians throughout the years.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 51 ✭✭Cognitive Cascade


    junder wrote: »
    John pilgers 'hidden agendas'

    Eamon Collins 'killing rage' good insight into the pira

    Seriously, do you have anything better to do besides trying to turn threads on the politics forum into train wrecks about northern Ireland, that is actually all you do on this site.

    It's pretty sad.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 122 ✭✭Ambient Occlusion


    Apologies, as this goes against the grain of the thread a bit; rather than recommend, I shall ask for assistance. Does anyone have any suggestions for a good book relating to Meritocracy or internal Irish political reform? I don't really know where to start because I'm only beginning to form a personal ideology. Thank you.


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 14,463 Mod ✭✭✭✭johnnyskeleton


    Apologies, as this goes against the grain of the thread a bit; rather than recommend, I shall ask for assistance. Does anyone have any suggestions for a good book relating to Meritocracy or internal Irish political reform? I don't really know where to start because I'm only beginning to form a personal ideology. Thank you.

    Why Ireland was so poor for so long by prof tom garvin is a good book about the systemic corruption and cronyism that is even now still thoroughly ingrained in Irish society. That sort of thing?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,591 ✭✭✭RATM


    Great thread.

    Would have to say that Machivellis 'The Prince' is essential reading for anyone who wants to understand how a nation state is run and the tricks of the trade of politics, it was way ahead of its time.

    To understand US hegemony over the last 100 years Noam Chomsky's 'Understanding Power' is a great read. It obviously has Chomsky's slant contained within it but it demonstrates how all the things the US accuse other nations of (i.e. terror) are conducted by the US itself. Chomsky is one of the greatest living academics and has this extraordinary memory and talent for catching Washington power mongers out at their own game. It makes it a fascinating read. It also contains a few interviews during which Chomsky outlines his political philosophy of anarchism which is eye opening for anyone who thought anarchism is just about starting fights at protests (which I did at an innocent 18 ! )


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,488 ✭✭✭Denerick


    RATM wrote: »
    Great thread.

    Would have to say that Machivellis 'The Prince' is essential reading for anyone who wants to understand how a nation state is run and the tricks of the trade of politics, it was way ahead of its time.

    I'm currently enjoying a Danish political drama called 'Borgen'. Each episode opens with a famous or relevant political quote. Machiavelli must have around half of them at this stage.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,043 ✭✭✭SocSocPol


    In defence of Politics by Bernard Crick
    Globalism and its Discontents by Joseph Stiglitz
    The Social Contact and Discourses by JJ Rousseau


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,565 ✭✭✭southsiderosie


    MOD NOTE:

    FYI - I've pulled the posts on free thought vs. ideology out of this thread into their own thread in the Political Theory forum.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 564 ✭✭✭thecommietommy


    Art of War of Sun Tzu, Paisley From Demagogue to Democrat ? by Ed Moloney, The Longest Day by Cornelius Ryan.


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