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Recommend a weissbier

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    #32
    gooner99
    Registered Users Posts: 2,036 ✭✭✭gooner99


    Thanks Guys,This thread has turned out very useful,with lots of ideas for brands to try and even how to pour it.


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    #33
    munchkin_utd
    Registered Users Posts: 7,829 ✭✭✭munchkin_utd


    BeerNut wrote: »
    This was in non-Munich parts of Bavaria :) In Munich your weissbier will likely come from a keg :eek:
    not if I'm ordering it !
    Theres normally dunkel available from the bottle so its the backup plan should standard weissbier be from the tap .


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    #34
    devildriver
    Registered Users Posts: 874 ✭✭✭devildriver


    My personal favourites are:

    Hoegaarden (Belgian)
    Franziskaner (German)
    Erdinger (German)

    But there's plenty out there to try. Blue Moon (American) is surprisingly good and one that I loved but can't seem to find easily is Kronenberg Blanc.


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    #35
    gooner99
    Registered Users Posts: 2,036 ✭✭✭gooner99


    Interesting the Lidl and Aldi ones come up as being good time and time again.I think I did try one of them before and wasn't impressed.Might have been the bad pour that was part of the problem,I ended up with a very foamy beer.


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    #36
    munchkin_utd
    Registered Users Posts: 7,829 ✭✭✭munchkin_utd


    gooner99 wrote: »
    Interesting the Lidl and Aldi ones come up as being good time and time again.I think I did try one of them before and wasn't impressed.Might have been the bad pour that was part of the problem,I ended up with a very foamy beer.
    nope, they're crap all right. Over carbonated and quite flavourless.
    Which is actually also a good description of Erdinger, which is the most popular weissbier across non weissbier drinking regions thanks to its neutral (watery) taste.
    But that explains why the Aldi/ Lidl beers are similar, as this wateryness is what the north and east of germany expect and want from a weissbier, seeing as Erdinger was the first to bring Weissbier to the masses outside of its traditional homelands in south germany.


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    #37
    gooner99
    Registered Users Posts: 2,036 ✭✭✭gooner99


    munchkin_utd wrote: »
    nope, they're crap all right. Over carbonated and quite flavourless.
    Which is actually also a good description of Erdinger, which is the most popular weissbier across non weissbier drinking regions thanks to its neutral (watery) taste.
    But that explains why the Aldi/ Lidl beers are similar, as this wateryness is what the north and east of germany expect and want from a weissbier, seeing as Erdinger was the first to bring Weissbier to the masses outside of its traditional homelands in south germany.

    Which ones do you recommend?


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    #38
    munchkin_utd
    Registered Users Posts: 7,829 ✭✭✭munchkin_utd


    gooner99 wrote: »
    Which ones do you recommend?
    from whats available in Ireland,
    - Schneider Weiss Orginal (more tending to dunkel that regular) - http://www.drinkstore.ie/Schneider-Weisse-Tap-7-Unser-Original-500ML-4003669016203/
    - Schneider Weiss Blonde (their version of "regular" weissbier) http://www.drinkstore.ie/Schneider-Weisse-Tap-1-Meine-Blonde-Weisse-500ML-4003669016807/
    - Frankziskaner - (not as good as Schneider, but still more than acceptable and on a deal is great money spent) http://www.drinkstore.ie/FRANZISKANER-HEFE-500ML-4072700003649/
    - Paulaner Weissbier - (a nicely balanced weissbier) http://www.drinkstore.ie/PAULANER-HEFE-WEIS-500ML-4066600611981/

    Actually, to be honest most weissbiers that you'd get are grand, aside from Erdinger, but even they have recognised that and have an "Urweisse" version that actually tastes of something.

    BTW, in case anyone thinks I have something irrational against Erdinger, I dont. Aparantly they are the soundest crowd ever to work for and really look after their staff, its still family ran and they can be thanked for making weissbier popular across germany.
    But their success is entirely based on brewing a watered down version of weissbier that was deliberately created to appeal to non weissbier drinkers, and that has to be pointed out (so for folks used to watery lager may be a positive thing)


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    #39
    gooner99
    Registered Users Posts: 2,036 ✭✭✭gooner99


    munchkin_utd wrote: »
    from whats available in Ireland,
    - Schneider Weiss Orginal (more tending to dunkel that regular) - http://www.drinkstore.ie/Schneider-Weisse-Tap-7-Unser-Original-500ML-4003669016203/
    - Schneider Weiss Blonde (their version of "regular" weissbier) http://www.drinkstore.ie/Schneider-Weisse-Tap-1-Meine-Blonde-Weisse-500ML-4003669016807/
    - Frankziskaner - (not as good as Schneider, but still more than acceptable and on a deal is great money spent) http://www.drinkstore.ie/FRANZISKANER-HEFE-500ML-4072700003649/
    - Paulaner Weissbier - (a nicely balanced weissbier) http://www.drinkstore.ie/PAULANER-HEFE-WEIS-500ML-4066600611981/

    Actually, to be honest most weissbiers that you'd get are grand, aside from Erdinger, but even they have recognised that and have an "Urweisse" version that actually tastes of something.

    BTW, in case anyone thinks I have something irrational against Erdinger, I dont. Aparantly they are the soundest crowd ever to work for and really look after their staff, its still family ran and they can be thanked for making weissbier popular across germany.
    But their success is entirely based on brewing a watered down version of weissbier that was deliberately created to appeal to non weissbier drinkers, and that has to be pointed out (so for folks used to watery lager may be a positive thing)

    Thanks for that. It was a Schneider and a Miesle that we were drinking.But I can't remember if it was the original Schneider or the blonde.Sure I'll give both a go and see.The Miesle was also very tasty.


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    drumswan
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    Heres the ones from the Ratebeer top 50 which are available here, in ranking order

    Weihenstephaner Hefe Weissbier
    Franziskaner Hefe-Weissbier
    Paulaner Hefe-Weissbier
    Schneider Weisse Original
    Sierra Nevada Kellerweis Hefeweizen
    Schneider Weisse Tap X Meine Sommer Weisse
    Maisels Weisse Original


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    #41
    gooner99
    Registered Users Posts: 2,036 ✭✭✭gooner99


    drumswan wrote: »
    Heres the ones from the Ratebeer top 50 which are available here, in ranking order

    Weihenstephaner Hefe Weissbier
    Franziskaner Hefe-Weissbier
    Paulaner Hefe-Weissbier
    Schneider Weisse Original
    Sierra Nevada Kellerweis Hefeweizen
    Schneider Weisse Tap X Meine Sommer Weisse
    Maisels Weisse Original

    Good list.Must hit the off license this weekend. Strange for me as I usually just get some lager from a supermarket. And indeed at that I don't often drink in the house, mostly the pub. Next thing on my list is to get the wife's brother to get some into his pub. Are the draft weissbiers we get here similar to our other beers in that they are brewed here, all full or gas and chemicals and bear little resemblance to the original?


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    #42
    adocholiday
    Registered Users Posts: 1,830 ✭✭✭adocholiday


    gooner99 wrote: »
    Are the draft weissbiers we get here similar to our other beers in that they are brewed here, all full or gas and chemicals and bear little resemblance to the original?

    I've had Paulaner and Franziskaner on draft a number of times and they were grand. Like any other beer though if they're not moving it regularly it won't be great. I believe that the flavour really starts to diminish from kegged weissbiers after 4-6 weeks once they've been opened so bottled would have a better shelf life.


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    drumswan
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    Got the last bottle of Weihenstephaner Hefe Weissbier in drinkstore this afternoon, hah


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    lk67
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    I thought Frankziskaner was still available in Aldi or Lidl at a good price?

    And personally I thought Shofferhofer was quite good and also very affordable in Aldi...


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    #45
    gooner99
    Registered Users Posts: 2,036 ✭✭✭gooner99


    Just back from a little trip to the German supermarkets.picked up a bottle of ....

    Aldi - Schöfferhofer 0.5l @ €1.79
    Aldi - Paulaner 0.5l @ €2.49
    Lidl - Franziskaner 0.5l @€;1.99

    All are chilling in the fridge!


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    #46
    Carawaystick
    Registered Users Posts: 8,779 ✭✭✭Carawaystick


    this is the best wheat beer
    http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/aecht-schlenkerla-rauchbier-weizen/8565/

    followed closely by this beaut
    http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/schneider-aventinus-weizen-eisbock/10514/

    Probably not for everyday though


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    #47
    gooner99
    Registered Users Posts: 2,036 ✭✭✭gooner99


    I suppose the Paulaner is only in for Octoberfest.


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    #48
    oblivious
    Registered Users Posts: 4,381 ✭✭✭oblivious


    gooner99 wrote: »
    I suppose the Paulaner is only in for Octoberfest.

    The wheat is available all year round, their Octoberfest marzen is for the fest


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    #49
    gooner99
    Registered Users Posts: 2,036 ✭✭✭gooner99


    oblivious wrote: »
    The wheat is available all year round, their Octoberfest marzen is for the fest

    Sorry,I meant to say that I guess Paulaner is probably only in Aldi for a short while.


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    #50
    gooner99
    Registered Users Posts: 2,036 ✭✭✭gooner99


    Tried the Paulaner. Lovely pint, nice and smooth. Did the whole pour thing,rinsed with cold water and left wet, poured at 45 degrees and swirled the last bit to get all the yeast. Happy with that one.


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    #51
    adocholiday
    Registered Users Posts: 1,830 ✭✭✭adocholiday


    Carawaystick wrote: »
    this is the best wheat beer
    http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/aecht-schlenkerla-rauchbier-weizen/8565/

    Those Rauchbiers are not for the faint of heart! The flavour is incredibly intense. They're so smokey they're almost like drinking liquidated rashers :D

    I had one in the Brewdock one night and while I enjoyed it i don't think I'd be in a hurry for another.

    Oh and picked up 4 Schoferhoffers today myself OP. This thread gave me a longing for some!


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    slowharry
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    Two Irish options worth a try are White Gypsy Blonde from tipp and Wicklow brewery's Weiss


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    a_non_a_mouse
    Registered Users Posts: 328 ✭✭a_non_a_mouse


    "Two Irish options worth a try are White Gypsy Blonde from tipp and Wicklow brewery's Weiss"

    This available in bottles or just on tap ?

    Also, anyone tried these
    http://www.sierranevada.com/beer/year-round/kellerweis

    http://widmerbrothers.com/beer/#hefeweizen

    planning on sampling them soon, just wondering if they worth it.
    as at 2.50-2.90 for 330ml puts them on par with some of the better German stuff....so wondering should I just stick with the real deal..


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    BeerNut
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    a_non_a_mouse wrote: »
    This available in bottles or just on tap ?
    Both are draught only.

    I don't really get the point of the American weissbiers when you're not in America. Both of those are fine, but the quality German stuff is better, in terms of bottle size if nothing else. But by all means try them. Drink all the beer.

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    lk67
    Registered Users Posts: 477 ✭✭lk67


    a_non_a_mouse wrote: »
    "Two Irish options worth a try are White Gypsy Blonde from tipp and Wicklow brewery's Weiss"

    This available in bottles or just on tap ?

    Also, anyone tried these

    sierra nevada kellerweis

    widmer brothers hefeweizen

    planning on sampling them soon, just wondering if they worth it.
    as at 2.50-2.90 for 330ml puts them on par with some of the better German stuff....so wondering should I just stick with the real deal..

    I liked both of them. They were Americanised versions of a wheat beer and nice in their own right without being exceptional. Perhaps they should be their own style and not compared to German ones, even with those names...

    Some find German wheat beers to filling or tough going, so maybe they're a good intro to the general style too.

    Also, Rascals Witt Woo is another interesting Irish wheat that I liked. Not German style I know!


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    #56
    a_non_a_mouse
    Registered Users Posts: 328 ✭✭a_non_a_mouse


    lk67 wrote: »
    Also, Rascals Witt Woo is another interesting Irish wheat that I liked. Not German style I know!

    So much good beer so little time.... :-(


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    #57
    munchkin_utd
    Registered Users Posts: 7,829 ✭✭✭munchkin_utd


    lk67 wrote: »
    I liked both of them. They were Americanised versions of a wheat beer and nice in their own right without being exceptional. Perhaps they should be their own style and not compared to German ones, even with those names...

    Some find German wheat beers to filling or tough going, so maybe they're a good intro to the general style too.
    If you want a "non filling" weissbier then stick to erdinger

    that said, even with Franziskaner I sometimes wonder if its a little more fizzy and lighter flavour when its really fresh and whether the flavour develops somewhat over time.

    I suppose it'd be a good subject of a head to head test sometime!


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    DLMA23
    Closed Accounts Posts: 296 ✭✭DLMA23


    Sierra Nevada Kellerweis Hefeweizen


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    #59
    marco_polo
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    Had some of that Schöfferhofer from Aldi yesterday, not in the same league as some of the "best in breed" for the style but a pretty plesant drink for 1.79 a bottle and more charachter that Erdinger imo.


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    Ryath
    Registered Users Posts: 3,372 ✭✭✭Ryath


    munchkin_utd wrote: »
    from whats available in Ireland,
    - Schneider Weiss Orginal (more tending to dunkel that regular) - http://www.drinkstore.ie/Schneider-Weisse-Tap-7-Unser-Original-500ML-4003669016203/
    - Schneider Weiss Blonde (their version of "regular" weissbier) http://www.drinkstore.ie/Schneider-Weisse-Tap-1-Meine-Blonde-Weisse-500ML-4003669016807/
    - Frankziskaner - (not as good as Schneider, but still more than acceptable and on a deal is great money spent) http://www.drinkstore.ie/FRANZISKANER-HEFE-500ML-4072700003649/
    - Paulaner Weissbier - (a nicely balanced weissbier) http://www.drinkstore.ie/PAULANER-HEFE-WEIS-500ML-4066600611981/

    Actually, to be honest most weissbiers that you'd get are grand, aside from Erdinger, but even they have recognised that and have an "Urweisse" version that actually tastes of something.

    BTW, in case anyone thinks I have something irrational against Erdinger, I dont. Aparantly they are the soundest crowd ever to work for and really look after their staff, its still family ran and they can be thanked for making weissbier popular across germany.
    But their success is entirely based on brewing a watered down version of weissbier that was deliberately created to appeal to non weissbier drinkers, and that has to be pointed out (so for folks used to watery lager may be a positive thing)

    Schneider Weiss tap 7 got a bottle as part of tesco's 4 for €8 deal a few days ago. Just picked it up as an option to get something different. Really liked it would have drank a lot of erdinger when it first came on the Irish market but this is so much nicer. Will be stocking up on a few bottles.

    They had the Erdinger Urweisse as part of the deal didn't know how it was different from their usual weiss. Will try a bottle.


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    munchkin_utd
    Registered Users Posts: 7,829 ✭✭✭munchkin_utd


    Ryath wrote: »
    <snip>
    They had the Erdinger Urweisse as part of the deal didn't know how it was different from their usual weiss. Will try a bottle.
    it's good.

    "normal" erdinger is a watery brew originally designed to appeal to pils drinkers in north germany. Its deliberately brewed to be bland, or at least way blander than weissbier otherwise would be.

    The "Urweisse" though means "original weisse"(bier) so the proper stuff that isnt brewed according to their regular watered down recipe.


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