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  • #6692
    humbert
    Registered Users Posts: 5,238 ✭✭✭humbert


    April O Neill wrote: »
    Many of those countries gave it bad name. Hitler made it high profile, but other countries had pretty questionable practices in place.
    Well the ethics of eugenics is always going to be contentious (wouldn't like to say that 10 times quickly) but yes sterilising the mentally retarded without their consent, for example, isn't very nice.


  • #6693
    shruikan2553
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,113 ✭✭✭shruikan2553


    Clandestine wrote: »
    -Women should have to get a licence to get pregnant.

    The trick is to give incentive for proving they are capable parents otherwise you get the people crying about how its their right to have children


  • #6694
    April O Neill
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,305 ✭✭✭April O Neill


    Mr Benevolent wrote: »
    Many countries were into eugenics back then.

    Which doesn't excuse it.
    humbert wrote: »
    Well the ethics of eugenics is always going to be contentious (wouldn't like to say that 10 times quickly) but yes sterilising the mentally retarded without their consent, for example, isn't very nice.

    That's an understatement. And the criteria for mentally retarded was frequently flawed with people sterilised because they were considered undesirables, whether they was were or not.


  • #6695
    humbert
    Registered Users Posts: 5,238 ✭✭✭humbert


    April O Neill wrote: »
    Which doesn't excuse it.
    In keeping with this thread, I'm not against eugenics in general but it's certainly a thorny issue and open to abuse.


  • #6696
    Madam_X
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,327 ✭✭✭Madam_X


    I hate when Godwin is brought up every time there's a mention of Hitler/the nazis in a thread - it's obviously relevant sometimes.


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  • #6697
    humbert
    Registered Users Posts: 5,238 ✭✭✭humbert


    Madam_X wrote: »
    I hate when Godwin is brought up every time there's a mention of Hitler/the nazis in a thread - it's obviously relevant sometimes.
    Suggesting something is bad because Hitler liked it is not one of those times.


  • #6698
    Cienciano
    Registered Users Posts: 14,215 ✭✭✭✭Cienciano


    You like dogs? Hitler liked dogs too. You monster!


  • #6699
    thebuzz
    Registered Users Posts: 654 ✭✭✭thebuzz


    Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »
    No, it makes you a proper (local team) fan.
    No, it makes me more of a proper football fan. Nothing beats being at a live game, watching on TV and shouting at it like most football 'fans' in this country is nowhere near being a proper football fan.


  • #6700
    Wade in the Sea
    Registered Users Posts: 276 ✭✭Wade in the Sea


    The Irish language is utterly pointless. Only a handful of people actually speak it as a first language and the majority of them are slightly weird, usually having been brought up in some arty farty household where one of the parents is a teacher and the other one is a full time poet or some such arse.


  • #6701
    Porkpie
    Registered Users Posts: 717 ✭✭✭Porkpie


    We're all a little sad for being on Boards.ie at this hour

    :p


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  • #6702
    Lithium93_
    Registered Users Posts: 48,990 ✭✭✭✭Lithium93_


    I prefer Redheads & Brunettes over Blonde haired women


  • #6703
    DEFTLEFTHAND
    Registered Users Posts: 16,500 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    Lithium93_ wrote: »
    I prefer Redheads & Brunettes over Blonde haired women

    Redheads get a bad rep, who cares that they can't properly produce melanin, defective gene my arse, some red headed broads are hot.


  • #6704
    Daniel Bitter Sunburn
    Posts: 0 ✭ Daniel Bitter Sunburn


    Fat birds are sexy. Not necessarily to look at - I mean maybe they are, that's a matter of your own opinion - but when it comes down to closing your eyes and doing the business, you will NEVER get a better ride than what you'll get from a fat bird.

    I've done my share of them and I'll tell you - never done a fat bird where the experience wasn't 95+% minimum.

    Skinny girls are cold, as in their skin is cold to touch, they complain all day long, and they wait around for you to spend lots of money on them.


  • #6705
    BattyInNZ
    Registered Users Posts: 70 ✭✭BattyInNZ


    My house doesn't have to be 'child friendly' - other people's children have to be 'house friendly'


  • #6706
    Chattastrophe!
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,284 ✭✭✭Chattastrophe!


    Clandestine wrote: »
    -Women should have to get a licence to get pregnant.

    Why women, and not couples? :confused:


  • #6707
    simply simple
    Registered Users Posts: 311 ✭✭simply simple


    Wilberto wrote: »
    That depends on your interpretation of "rich".
    RICH means rich, riches of money, praise, popularity, freedom, .....
    list may go on. everyone may find something for them in this list.


  • #6708
    godwin
    Registered Users Posts: 393 ✭✭godwin


    Ban the whale.


  • #6709
    simply simple
    Registered Users Posts: 311 ✭✭simply simple


    Spanish Harlem wrote: »
    Ireland needs to boycott India until they cop-on - don't buy Indian products, don't accept Indian immigrants into this country, and discourage people from travelling there.[/QUOTE

    THINK! If indians boycott Ireland and stop coming here, where shall we get the IT smarties and nurses from. They will find their way somewhere else but Ireland will definitely be scratching its head then. (opinion :D)


  • #6710
    kunst nugget
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,375 ✭✭✭✭kunst nugget


    humbert wrote: »
    In keeping with this thread, I'm not against eugenics in general but it's certainly a thorny issue and open to abuse.

    When is eugenics ever acceptable? People aren't racehorses...


  • #6711
    Princess Consuela Bananahammock
    Registered Users Posts: 32,983 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    thebuzz wrote: »
    No, it makes me more of a proper football fan. Nothing beats being at a live game, watching on TV and shouting at it like most football 'fans' in this country is nowhere near being a proper football fan.

    Just because you are at a game doesn;t mke it or you any better.

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



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  • #6712
    Princess Consuela Bananahammock
    Registered Users Posts: 32,983 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    Wade in the Sea wrote: »
    The Irish language is utterly pointless. Only a handful of people actually speak it as a first language and the majority of them are slightly weird, usually having been brought up in some arty farty household where one of the parents is a teacher and the other one is a full time poet or some such arse.

    Saying that a lanaguge is "utterly pointless" because of a lack of speakers is being a philistine. Would you say the same about Latin?

    Or would you say that all art is pointless because it has no practical value?

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • #6713
    humbert
    Registered Users Posts: 5,238 ✭✭✭humbert


    kunst nugget wrote: »
    When is eugenics ever acceptable? People aren't racehorses...
    I'm OK with this.
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2010/may/30/barbara-harris-sterilise-addicts-uk


  • #6714
    Madam_X
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,327 ✭✭✭Madam_X


    Clandestine wrote: »
    Hah. I have no idea how it would play out but I think the idea as a whole would be ideal for society.
    How on earth would a licence stop women getting pregnant?

    Do you mean: a licence to raise children maybe?


  • #6715
    wretcheddomain
    Registered Users Posts: 3,094 ✭✭✭wretcheddomain


    Madam_X wrote: »
    How on earth would a licence stop women getting pregnant?

    Do you mean: a licence to raise children maybe?

    When a woman wishes to conceive a baby, she has to get a permit from the appropriate authority. This permit is delivered if it is shown the baby can be cared for fully and not in poverty or in the hands of ill equipped parents. Any mother who produces a baby and does not have a permit has the child taken away from her and fined. In addition, the permit would raise cash for the State given that it'll cost €50 to get one in the first place. This is a great basic skeleton to work from and it's only a matter of time before the PPP is introduced (Permit Permitting Pregnancy).


  • #6716
    eviltwin
    Registered Users Posts: 17,495 ✭✭✭✭eviltwin


    wretcheddomain wrote: »
    When a woman wishes to conceive a baby, she has to get a permit from the appropriate authority. This permit is delivered if it is shown the baby can be cared for fully and not in poverty or in the hands of ill equipped parents. Any mother who produces a baby and does not have a permit has the child taken away from her and fined. In addition, the permit would raise cash for the State given that it'll cost €50 to get one in the first place. This is a great basic skeleton to work from and it's only a matter of time before the PPP is introduced (Permit Permitting Pregnancy).

    What if things are going well for you when you have a baby but 5/10 years down the line things hit the skids. Do we have forced adoption?


  • #6717
    Napper Hawkins
    Registered Users Posts: 1,903 ✭✭✭Napper Hawkins


    Madam_X wrote: »
    How on earth would a licence stop women getting pregnant?

    Do you mean: a licence to raise children maybe?


    Pregnancy as we all (should) know cannot be prevented all of the time, so this eugenics bull doesn't even come into it.

    But I very much agree that anyone who wants to raise a child should need a license. If you're capable of being a good parent then you've nothing to worry about. If you're not then your children should rightly be taken away from you. Far too many children have had to grow up with degenerates for parents because any prat can have one whenever they want.

    You need a license for a dog, why not a human?


  • #6718
    Princess Consuela Bananahammock
    Registered Users Posts: 32,983 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    Napper Hawkins wrote: »
    Pregnancy as we all (should) know cannot be prevented all of the time, so this eugenics bull doesn't even come into it.

    But I very much agree that anyone who wants to raise a child should need a license. If you're capable of being a good parent then you've nothing to worry about. If you're not then your children should rightly be taken away from you. Far too many children have had to grow up with degenerates for parents because any prat can have one whenever they want.

    You need a license for a dog, why not a human?

    This is a case of perspective: what makes a good parent: in Russia and Finalnd, they take their kids down to the ice lakes and send them swmming in freezing temperatures and little or no swimwear. Is this being a good parent or not?

    And that's juse one example.

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • #6719
    Addle
    Registered Users Posts: 4,812 ✭✭✭Addle


    Napper Hawkins wrote: »
    You need a license for a dog, why not a human?

    What % of dogs in this country are licensed?


  • #6720
    Napper Hawkins
    Registered Users Posts: 1,903 ✭✭✭Napper Hawkins


    Addle wrote: »
    What % of dogs in this country are licensed?


    Not a clue. What % of drivers are licensed/insured?


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  • #6721
    Napper Hawkins
    Registered Users Posts: 1,903 ✭✭✭Napper Hawkins


    Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »
    This is a case of perspective: what makes a good parent: in Russia and Finalnd, they take their kids down to the ice lakes and send them swmming in freezing temperatures and little or no swimwear. Is this being a good parent or not?

    And that's juse one example.

    Do the Russian and Finnish kids grow up to be scum as a result?


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