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Where to get a food intolerance test?

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7 firetrap8


    If anyone wants to send me €135 to send them made up test results with no level of accuracy whatsoever then I'm open for business! I'm now accepting credit cards at Ican'tbelievepeoplestillbelievethiscrap.com.:P

    I don't remember asking you for dosh before doing the test, so mind your own intolerances which obviously aren't related to food! I think you're a very lonely person otherwise I can't see why you're wasting time on subjects that don't interest you.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,819 ✭✭✭✭g'em


    firetrap less of the personal attacks. If you have an issue with a post, report it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7 firetrap8


    g'em wrote: »
    firetrap less of the personal attacks. If you have an issue with a post, report it.

    Hey dude, when somebody is directly slagging me you're telling that it's my mistake!


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,327 ✭✭✭death1234567


    If anyone wants to send me €135 to send them made up test results with no level of accuracy whatsoever then I'm open for business! I'm now accepting credit cards at Ican'tbelievepeoplestillbelievethiscrap.com.:P
    Just remember to tell people they are allergic/intolerant to wheat, IIRC 7/10 people are and its in everything so they'll have eaten some recently.
    SineadPh wrote: »
    Maev Creaven from the Galway Nutrition Centre in Galway tests for food intolerances. www.nutritioncentre.ie There are no needles used.
    How does it work?

    Might get one of these tests done for the craic, fingers crosses I'm allergic to vegetables and have to substitute them for steak cos I'm protein deficient.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12 AnneBQ


    I had very good results from the Slievemore clinic in Stillorgan, both for myself and my daughter, can't remember how much it cost but it was'nt crazy: its a general medical practice but they do a lot of work on allergies.

    good luck Anne


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,819 ✭✭✭✭g'em


    firetrap8 wrote: »
    Hey dude, when somebody is directly slagging me you're telling that it's my mistake!

    I'm saying that you don't retort directly, you report it and let the Moderators deal with it. Likewise arguing with us on thread, now let it go and move on.


  • Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 5,620 ✭✭✭El_Dangeroso


    Oops! I was just joking!:o

    Prob shouldn't have quoted you directly so apologies for that.

    But on a serious note. None of these tests are scientifically validated, ie, have a better chance of figuring out your intolerances than a fortune teller. The owners have some cheek deceiving people that they can and then charging them 135 euro for the pleasure. Out and out fraud in my book.


  • Registered Users Posts: 119 ✭✭arandale


    El Dangeroso, i really agree with you. I did the Galway one mentioned, real GOBBLEDGOOK. Reams paperwork i needed a degree to make out.


  • Registered Users Posts: 114 ✭✭johnlambe


    IgG Food Allergy Testing by ELISA/EIA - What do they really tell us?

    This is an article by a clinic that sent multiple samples from the same patient to labs to see the variation in results (all for IgG blood-based tests).
    They tested three labs (sending 6 samples taken from the same patient at the same time to each), and got a variance of 59%, 7% and 9%, respectively, in the clinical recommendations of each lab (i.e. the variation between the 6 times the lab tested the same patient).

    So with the first lab, when they recommend to avoid or not avoid a certain food, there's a 59% chance that they would give a different result (at least once) if they did the test 6 times.

    A 9% variance is considered acceptable.

    So this seems to suggest, that if you get a good lab, there's still about a 7%-9% chance that each result will be unreliable. (The probability that the test failed in each case would be a bit less than that: For example, that 7%-9% would include results that would have been the same as the first sample 5 out of 6 times, with the other one probably being the anomaly).

    The article suggests possible causes for the variation - contaminants in the foods used for testing, e.g. bacteria or viruses (which your immunoglobulin should react to), or pesticide residues.

    Based on that, they probably have some use in giving an indication of what you might have an intolerance for. (€200 doesn't seem such good value in that case).
    It may be the case that false negatives are unlikely. So when a test tells you you're not intolerant of something, that could be useful (and maybe more likely to be reliable).


    But this does not (as stated in the article) test whether the result is actually correct.
    (Of course, there's anecdotal evidence for that).

    In the first response to this, a laboratory director talks about what his lab does to improve reliability of their tests. I think it's worth asking any lab you're thinking of getting tests from if they do any of that.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,315 ✭✭✭snowstreams


    Ive got Ankylosing spondylitis, which affects my back and stomach.
    I discovered that there is a diet for AS where you cut out all starches from your diet and my spondylitis goes away. It seems a bit like the paleo diet.
    Obviously that diet is very difficult to stay on, so I was hoping there was a way to figure out if could eat some foods that are starchy? Would an allergy test do?
    I know when i eat brown bread i always get bad heartburn indigestion so would that mean im wheat intolerant or possibly more likely celiac?
    Maybe I should really just talk to a specialist consultant for a proper test?


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  • Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 5,620 ✭✭✭El_Dangeroso


    You'd really be better off discussing that with your doctor, especially if you suspect coeliac (which is associated with AS).


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,315 ✭✭✭snowstreams


    You'd really be better off discussing that with your doctor, especially if you suspect coeliac (which is associated with AS).

    I did get a blood test for coeliacs disease before, but I never heard back.
    I'll have to ask my doctor for the full proper test so.
    it would be good if there was an easy to do test for food interolerances because when i cut out starch, I end up eating loads of dairy, eggs and nuts to compensate!


  • Registered Users Posts: 114 ✭✭johnlambe


    Allergy or Intolerance

    This article (from a provider of IgG intolerance tests) explains the difference between allergy and intolerance.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4 Worried-in-WW


    An Elimination Diet is the standard for diagnosing - and treating - food intolerances. The reason why the various blood tests for food intolerance have become popular is that they shortcut the fairly arduous task of eliminating food ingredients one by one and subjectively judging whether you feel better without them.

    I use IgG blood tests (I've used York Test and, more recently, Food Detective professional) for this purpose. Combined with the pre-test interview - and I emphasize that it is important to collect this dietary information and confirm whether that the person is aware that their symptoms are food-related - I've found testing very helpful. But it is the Elimination Diet, guided by the test scores and interview, that gives the results, not the test alone.

    Even armed with a black-and-white report of your results, it's still not easy to change the food habits of a lifetime. For this reason, I'd advise working with a professional who can advise on dietary change, such as a nutritional therapist (www.ntoi.ie).

    If you ask me have I seen variation between the different tests available, I have, but I found them pretty close. They do different numbers of foods and use different test panels - for example, one combines egg white and yolk, the other tests them separately - but the overall picture is still pretty clear since the tests generally test not for just one but several members of each food family (e.g. not just for wheat, but also gluten, rye, oats and durum wheat).

    I find testing a big advance over a blind Elimination Diet. Many people I've tested had previously carried out Elimination Diets of sorts - for example series' of magazine-article-driven Elimination Diets - but have either not been thorough enough, or carried out change for long enough, to be sure of a link. However, in the hands of an experienced practitioner, a structured Elimination Diet and interview will give excellent results.

    The tests are not really tests of food intolerance, even if that's how they are marketed. What they can do is help identify the most likely culprits in people who have symptoms of food intolerance. The studies that show them to be useful also used them in that way.

    There still isn't an international standard for the different companies to compare their tests to, so they use their own panels of people with positive results. I'd guess that the variability comes more from that than from the technology itself, which is the same as that used for many very commonly used diagnostic tests.

    But - especially at this time of year - even before going to the expense of a blood test - there is one thing you could eliminate and likely feel a difference in a few weeks: try cutting out sugar (and sweet things).


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,846 ✭✭✭discombobulate


    Could anyone give me a somewhat reliable place or recommendation to go preferably in Dublin 2 to get a test please. Thanks


  • Registered Users Posts: 4 Worried-in-WW


    There are many "food intolerance" or "food allergy" tests available. I would opt for an antibody blood test as the best researched. And those tests don't actually diagnose "food intolerance" but instead show whether there are foods against which your body is reacting (by making antibodies).

    And the test result helps you design a specific food elimination diet - 3 months avoiding the strongly reacting foods - followed by controlled re-exposure to learn what the individual foods do to you. And then you can both follow your new diet, while - generally - being able to occasionally take the foods you react to.

    You can do blood tests for around 50 items, 112 items and up to 200 items. In the end, it's usually down to a few foods covered in all of the tests, including dairy and gluten and most of the other foods are in the test to show you how many options you still have.

    Getting the results in D2 is the easy part - you can get a 50+ item test done in Trinity Pharmacy near Tara St Station, or a 100 item test from the Fitzwilliam Clinic in Fitzwilliam Square.

    The key thing is what you do with the results. If you have a straightforward result you may be well able to manage the elimination diet yourself using the information in your report. If not, you will want to work with a nutritionist (list of practitioners in D2 on http://www.ntoi.ie/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=52:find-a-practitioner-near-you&catid=38:practitioners-all-regions&Itemid=62). They can help with the questions like: what can I have for breakfast? More importantly, they help you avoid getting your new diet half-right, which is nearly as bad as not at all right. I've done the change. It was well worth the effort, but it wasn't easy. And remember that sugar (natural or other) isn't in any of these tests, nor does it need to be - it aggravates symptoms.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,317 ✭✭✭razor8


    has anyone used the fitzwilliamfoodtest clinic in Dublin http://www.fitzwilliamfoodtest.com ???


    i am a colitis sufferer and was wondering if i got a food intolerence test done would it show up any problems


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,589 ✭✭✭shakencat


    I'm looking for an intolerance test too, I'm reacting really badly after eating some foods, and I'd love to determine exactly what it is that makes me feel unwell :(


  • Registered Users Posts: 9 RedMen15


    Pat Boyd based in Sligo does food intolerance testing and is excellent. Does regular clinics around the country. Can find her details with a quick google.


  • Registered Users Posts: 14 johnsmittenhous


    RedMen15 wrote: »
    Pat Boyd based in Sligo does food intolerance testing and is excellent. Does regular clinics around the country. Can find her details with a quick google.

    Hi do you have a number for pat Boyd by chance.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 9 RedMen15


    RedMen15 wrote: »
    Pat Boyd based in Sligo does food intolerance testing and is excellent. Does regular clinics around the country. Can find her details with a quick google.

    Hi do you have a number for pat Boyd by chance.
    can you PM me


  • Registered Users Posts: 10 Yellow River


    There was a time when people believed the world was flat. When first proposed, the theory of gravity was denied. Despite all the evidence in support of IgG food intolerance tests, some people continue to deny them.

    It was back in the year 2000 when Dixon and his team published his scientific paper on IgG food intolerance tests. At that time, these tests were only in their infancy and have improved spectacularly since those early development days. At that time Dixon and his scientists conducted a study on 100+ patients to assess the benefits associated with the IgG food intolerance test.

    That study concluded:
    1. That 70% of the trial patients experienced a 75%+ improvement
    2. That of those studied, 25% had incapacitating symptoms and this group achieved 80%+ improvement

    Study Conclusion: “Elimination of positive IgG foods is successful in significantly decreasing symptoms”

    That publication is available on a Google search:
    “Treatment of delayed food allergy based on specific immunoglobulin G rast testing” by Dixon


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,315 ✭✭✭snowstreams


    I think the issue with food intolerance might also lie within the gut and the makeup of your current gut bacteria.
    I know that if I cut out of sugar and wheat for a few months at a time I build up a tolerance to wheat and sugar.
    When I restart eating sugar and wheat, for example at Christmas, then I get no flare ups for a few weeks or months.

    The theory is that it takes a few weeks of unhealthy eating for the bad bacteria to create an imbalance again.

    IgG tests in combination with stool bacteria analysis would be interesting.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Would this Health Diagnostics Lab food intolerance test be any use? I was reading this article - Consumers warned they cannot rely on food intolerance test kits: Authority says there is no single test to diagnose food intolerance (29 Jan. 2018) - and I'd obviously rather get it done properly than pay for something unreliable.

    What tests are most accurate today, or do any of them really test for 750 items? Thanks.


  • Registered Users Posts: 28,362 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    Would this Health Diagnostics Lab food intolerance test be any use? I was reading this article - Consumers warned they cannot rely on food intolerance test kits: Authority says there is no single test to diagnose food intolerance (29 Jan. 2018) - and I'd obviously rather get it done properly than pay for something unreliable.

    What tests are most accurate today, or do any of them really test for 750 items? Thanks.

    This crowd are good if you are in Dublin

    https://www.allergy-ireland.ie/


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