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Syian Army mops out fundamentalist terrorists from Alepo

  • 13-08-2012 3:58pm
    #1
    Border-Rat
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 921 ✭✭✭


    The Syrian armed forces on Thursday cleaned al-Asiyleh and Bab al-Nassr areas in Aleppo from the armed terrorists groups.

    Meanwhile, the authorities inflicted heavy losses upon the armed terrorist groups in clashes nearby al-Shifa roundabout at Halab al-Jadida (new Aleppo) Quarter.

    A source in the province told SANA reporter that scores of the terrorists were killed or wounded by the authorities which continue purging al-Nairab and Salah Eddin Quarters from the fleeing Gulf-Sheikhs mercenary terrorists.

    Continuing the pursuing operations of terrorists in Aleppo neighborhoods, units of the Syrian armed forces entered Bab al-Nasr, Sabaa Bahrat, Bab al-Hadeid and trade markets in the city.

    Citizens and inhabitants welcomed the army members, expressing their support to the army's efforts to clean their quarters from terrorists.

    http://sana.sy/eng/337/2012/08/09/435555.htm

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    Syrian Army stands victorious in front of Alepo Citadel.


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  • #2
    bluecode
    Closed Accounts Posts: 794 ✭✭✭bluecode


    Yay victory to the glorious defenders of freedom in Syria. ..........Border Rat, you are exposing yourself rather neatly. We will remember that next time you seek to defend terrorism in the Irish context.

    Why don't you volunteer yourself to fight against those 'terrorists' in Syria or are you too comfortable on that bar stool of yours?


  • #3
    RMD
    Registered Users Posts: 2,662 ✭✭✭RMD


    A link from state operated media. How truthful and unbiased it surely must be.


  • #4
    Border-Rat
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 921 ✭✭✭Border-Rat


    bluecode wrote: »
    Yay victory to the glorious defenders of freedom in Syria. ..........Border Rat, you are exposing yourself rather neatly. We will remember that next time you seek to defend terrorism in the Irish context.

    Why don't you volunteer yourself to fight against those 'terrorists' in Syria or are you too comfortable on that bar stool of yours?

    There's no need to take this personally chara. :mad:


  • #5
    tricky D
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,700 ✭✭✭tricky D


    RMD wrote: »
    A link from state operated media. How truthful and unbiased it surely must be.

    Without prejudice to any side(s), truth and lack of bias has been overwhelmed by propaganda and interventions on all sides in the Arab Spring actions. The real situations are a mess and will get worse long before things get better in what is a post Cold War combined with a Muslim power struggle in the region. All sides have blood on their hands. The old adage about truth being the first casualty of war holds true.


  • #6
    Tatankbull
    Registered Users Posts: 51 ✭✭Tatankbull


    tricky D wrote: »
    Without prejudice to any side(s), truth and lack of bias has been overwhelmed by propaganda and interventions on all sides in the Arab Spring actions. The real situations are a mess and will get worse long before things get better in what is a post Cold War combined with a Muslim power struggle in the region. All sides have blood on their hands. The old adage about truth being the first casualty of war holds true.

    I agree completely- after seeing dozens of videos depicting war crimes being carried out by all sides of the conflict in Syria I think we all should be approaching this situation with care and not jumping to extol the virtues of either side yet.


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  • #7
    whydave
    Registered Users Posts: 4,061 ✭✭✭whydave



    Robert Fisk: 'Rebel army? They're a gang of foreigners    '
    Our writer hears the Syrian forces' justification for a battle that is tearing apart one of the world's oldest cities.
    Link


  • #8
    SaoriseBiker
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 297 ✭✭SaoriseBiker


    RMD wrote: »
    A link from state operated media. How truthful and unbiased it surely must be.
    Yeah, it would never happen with RTE or BBC or ITV, especially with what went on during the Troubles :rolleyes:


  • #9
    OS119
    Registered Users Posts: 2,518 ✭✭✭OS119


    SaoriseBiker wrote: »
    Yeah, it would never happen with RTE or BBC or ITV, especially with what went on during the Troubles :rolleyes:

    yes indeed, imagine how different the world be if the BBC and ITV had actually broadcast TV programmes that questioned the official versipn of events.

    oh, hang on...


  • #10
    whydave
    Registered Users Posts: 4,061 ✭✭✭whydave


    whydave wrote: »
    Robert Fisk: 'Rebel army? They're a gang of foreigners'
    Chechen dies in Syria raid
    Published on Friday 24 August 2012 00:00

    The son of late Chechen rebel warlord Ruslan Gelayev has been killed in Syria by government forces battling a rebellion against president Bashar al-Assad, it was reported yesterday.

    Rustam Gelayev was killed in the shelling of a mosque in Aleppo by forces loyal to Mr Assad earlier this month, according to the website chechenews.com. It said Mr Gelayev, 24, had joined a unit of ethnic Chechens fighting alongside Syrian rebels in a 17-month-old uprising against Moscow-allied Mr Assad.
    Link


  • #11
    RMD
    Registered Users Posts: 2,662 ✭✭✭RMD


    SaoriseBiker wrote: »
    Yeah, it would never happen with RTE or BBC or ITV, especially with what went on during the Troubles :rolleyes:

    Where did I imply any of the above mentioned sources were reliable either? Irrelevant point.


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  • #12
    SaoriseBiker
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 297 ✭✭SaoriseBiker


    RMD wrote: »
    Where did I imply any of the above mentioned sources were reliable either? Irrelevant point.
    Sorry if you thought I was having a go at you, I'm in agreement with what you said about state operated media. Just pointing out the Syrians weren't the only ones where the state (and much of the so called independent media ) can be untruthful and biased.
    OS119 wrote: »
    yes indeed, imagine how different the world be if the BBC and ITV had actually broadcast TV programmes that questioned the official versipn of events.

    oh, hang on...
    True their not in the same league as Syrian tv, but pointing out that RTE especially, as well as BBC and ITV did and still do their share of untruthful and biased reporting.


  • #13
    whitelines
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 159 ✭✭whitelines


    Media bias tends to be in the eyes of the beholder. State propaganda rarely reaches the heights of absurdity of insurgency propaganda.


  • #14
    OS119
    Registered Users Posts: 2,518 ✭✭✭OS119


    whitelines wrote: »
    Media bias tends to be in the eyes of the beholder. State propaganda rarely reaches the heights of absurdity of insurgency propaganda.

    oh i don't know - there's some pretty absurd state media about, if you look at the media of the regimes that have bitten the dust in the last 10 years or so you'll see protestations of 'fighting to the last man', 'the invaders will be pushed into the sea', and 'everyone loves the great leader, he is the light of our existance' - all shortly before the great leader finds himself completely alone and hangng from a noose or dead in a ditch at the hands of his 'devoted people'.

    opposition propoganda is often also more than a little 'selective', but it usually appears to have some logic in the message it wishes to get accross - it tries to press the buttons (civilian suffering and nasty dictatorship) within the international community that will get it what it wants, which is sympathy, recognition, assistance and some pressure of the regime. regime progaganda however just seems - to me - to be bizaare. its so obviously false that it leaves the (western) viewer utterly incredulous, and therefore much less likely to believe anything the regime says about anything, and far more likely to believe, or at least give credence to, what the opposition say is happening. we, as people who live in democratic countries with functioning judiciaries, health services and a free media, know that our governments rarely get more than 40% popularity, yet we are meant to believe that a government that lives in marble palaces with gold bathtubs while its population eeks it out on 1000cals a day and stands a good chance of having its bollocks cut off if it says 'the President is a thieving cnut' regularly gets 250% of the vote on 'election day'.

    while the opposition are rarely candidates for sainthood, the regimes they fight against never are - Saddam Hussein did use Chemical weapons on his own people, the Assads did eraticate a city from the map in the 80's, and Mubarak did control a deeply unpleasent and kleptocratic dictatorship. there's a pattern here.

    you always have to ask yourself 'whats the motive?', and to me, what are, for the most part, entirely ordinary people who don't know one end of an AK-47 from the other do not start fighting Tanks and Artillery without a very good reason, and conspiraloon/gullable idiot CIA/Mossad plots are not good reasons.


  • #15
    whitelines
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 159 ✭✭whitelines


    OS119 wrote: »
    oh i don't know - there's some pretty absurd state media about, if you look at the media of the regimes that have bitten the dust in the last 10 years or so you'll see protestations of 'fighting to the last man', 'the invaders will be pushed into the sea', and 'everyone loves the great leader, he is the light of our existance' - all shortly before the great leader finds himself completely alone and hangng from a noose or dead in a ditch at the hands of his 'devoted people'.

    opposition propoganda is often also more than a little 'selective', but it usually appears to have some logic in the message it wishes to get accross - it tries to press the buttons (civilian suffering and nasty dictatorship) within the international community that will get it what it wants, which is sympathy, recognition, assistance and some pressure of the regime. regime progaganda however just seems - to me - to be bizaare. its so obviously false that it leaves the (western) viewer utterly incredulous, and therefore much less likely to believe anything the regime says about anything, and far more likely to believe, or at least give credence to, what the opposition say is happening. we, as people who live in democratic countries with functioning judiciaries, health services and a free media, know that our governments rarely get more than 40% popularity, yet we are meant to believe that a government that lives in marble palaces with gold bathtubs while its population eeks it out on 1000cals a day and stands a good chance of having its bollocks cut off if it says 'the President is a thieving cnut' regularly gets 250% of the vote on 'election day'.

    while the opposition are rarely candidates for sainthood, the regimes they fight against never are - Saddam Hussein did use Chemical weapons on his own people, the Assads did eraticate a city from the map in the 80's, and Mubarak did control a deeply unpleasent and kleptocratic dictatorship. there's a pattern here.

    you always have to ask yourself 'whats the motive?', and to me, what are, for the most part, entirely ordinary people who don't know one end of an AK-47 from the other do not start fighting Tanks and Artillery without a very good reason, and conspiraloon/gullable idiot CIA/Mossad plots are not good reasons.

    Of course the opposition initially appears less odious than the state - it has yet to have state powers at it's disposal. Initially it will be significantly weaker than the state and as such less able to implement wide scale abuses.

    As for the opposition's motives - they're generally ethno/sectarian at heart, as is the state's. It's really quite amazing how the feminist students dancing around the town square fountain (or whatever) never seem to actually achieve power once the 'evil' dictator has been vanquished (with or without naive western intervention). At the core of the west's problems across many areas of the world is an inability to accept the reality of other people's cultures, faiths and lifestyles and how they can't be reconciled with western democracy (or pseudo-democracy if you prefer).


  • #16
    neilled
    Registered Users Posts: 1,232 ✭✭✭neilled


    whitelines wrote: »
    Of course the opposition initially appears less odious than the state - it has yet to have state powers at it's disposal. Initially it will be significantly weaker than the state and as such less able to implement wide scale abuses.

    As for the opposition's motives - they're generally ethno/sectarian at heart, as is the state's. It's really quite amazing how the feminist students dancing around the town square fountain (or whatever) never seem to actually achieve power once the 'evil' dictator has been vanquished (with or without naive western intervention). At the core of the west's problems across many areas of the world is an inability to accept the reality of other people's cultures, faiths and lifestyles and how they can't be reconciled with western democracy (or pseudo-democracy if you prefer).

    Feminist students dancing around a spurting phallic symbol of the oppressor? Never :D !


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