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Potential SHTF scenarios & tinfoil hat thread (Please read post 1)

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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,111 ✭✭✭ShadowFox


    ShadowFox wrote: »
    Flooding in Dublin and more to come
    http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/heavy-rain-causes-localised-floods-in-dublin-601822.html
    Roof of of Mater Hospital was also damaged
    Clerys department store part of the roof collapsed

    Flood warning for drivers
    http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/motorists-urged-to-take-care-as-heavy-rainfall-expected-601898.html


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,111 ✭✭✭ShadowFox


    Met Éireann has issued a rainfall warning for Munster, Connacht and west Ulster.
    http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/met-eireann-issues-rainfall-warning-602184.html


  • Registered Users Posts: 428 ✭✭wolfeye


    The first likely case of H7N9 spread by humans.
    Passed by father to daughter in Eastern China.

    I reckon it's only a matter of time before one of these strains causes a pandemic.

    http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/asiapacific/first-likely-case-of-h7n9/767774.html

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2385788/H7N9-Lethal-strain-avian-flu-killed-43-transmitted-humans-time.html


  • Registered Users Posts: 428 ✭✭wolfeye


    IBM scientists are developing a new software ecosystem that would be able to support cognitive computing systems.

    Rise of the machines!

    http://mashable.com/2013/08/08/ibm-cognitive-computing/


  • Registered Users Posts: 220 ✭✭thehippychippy


    wolfeye wrote: »
    IBM scientists are developing a new software ecosystem that would be able to support cognitive computing systems.

    Rise of the machines!

    http://mashable.com/2013/08/08/ibm-cognitive-computing/

    Scary


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 51 ✭✭Sandals and Shorts


    To me the biggest most likely threats in Ireland are damage from weather, as we've already seen over the years, e.g. snow, flood, storm, can easily knock out services for weeks, especially electricity. Very few people think about that, living without electricity for weeks. It knocks out phones, water supplies, computers, you name it.

    I think the very first stage of self sufficiency is being able to live in your own home without electricity and transport for a few weeks if needs be.

    Irish communities just a few generations ago were very self sufficient out of necessity. Over the last two generations we've lost that ability. I think every community should preserve that ability. Rural communities seem to be more self sufficient and have more community spirit than urban ones.

    100% individual self sufficiency is too extreme in practice, a better model is communities with self sufficient ability. This model suits Ireland. No man is an island, even though we'd like to be at times.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,111 ✭✭✭ShadowFox




  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,691 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tabnabs


    The SARS story continues, stay away from camels and wild animals if you're in the Canaries

    http://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/middle-east/camels-linked-to-spread-of-sars-like-coronavirus-1.1488804


  • Registered Users Posts: 428 ✭✭wolfeye


    Russians are reporting that their pigeons are acting strangely — ignoring humans and vehicles approaching them. Because of their strange behavior, residents have taken to calling the birds "zombie pigeons."




  • Registered Users Posts: 273 ✭✭Danpad


    The temp just went up a notch. America are moving some of their Mediterranean fleet into 'firing' positions, should Obama choose to act on Syria. I'd say the Russians are monitoring this closely.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,433 ✭✭✭touts


    Two years later and the most developed, organised and technologically advanced nation in the world still cant get a damaged nuclear power plant near their capital under control. Now imagine what would happen if it was Sellafield a few miles from Dublin and the Sir Humhries hundreds of miles away in London were still debating putting the clean up operation out to tender under EU rules.

    www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-23776345


  • Registered Users Posts: 701 ✭✭✭madmaxi


    touts wrote: »
    Two years later and the most developed, organised and technologically advanced nation in the world still cant get a damaged nuclear power plant near their capital under control. Now imagine what would happen if it was Sellafield a few miles from Dublin and the Sir Humhries hundreds of miles away in London were still debating putting the clean up operation out to tender under EU rules.

    www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-23776345

    Not damaged, crippled. All they have exercised is damage control & tried to contain the leaks. Wait till the truth comes out how extensive the leaks are.
    Tokyo Electric Power Company workers have detected high levels of radiation in a ditch that flows into the ocean from a leaking tank at the crippled Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant.
    http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/site/?pageid=event_update_read&edis_id=ED-20130729-40264-JPN&uid=14211


  • Registered Users Posts: 701 ✭✭✭madmaxi


    Two earthquakes strike in the Irish sea, A magnitude 2.4 & 3.3 :

    http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/site/index.php?pageid=seism_index&rid=348404

    http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/two-earthquakes-strike-in-the-irish-sea-29526231.html

    EDIT: Nuclear facilities close by:

    Location Distance
    Wylfa Npp 53.75 km
    Sellafield Rp 37.02 km
    Heysham Npp 23.33 km


  • Registered Users Posts: 273 ✭✭Danpad


    Firstly, apologies mods - I know this strictly belongs in the SHTF thread but I just wanted to put a spotlight on this initially as, if it's true, it could well mean that the Rubicon has been crossed. So, excuse my urge to get this out there and please move it accordingly if need be.

    Some news sites are suggesting that Putin has ordered a 'massive strike' against Saudi Arabia if the USA/UK/France axis goes to war against Syria. Notably, most of the 'mainstream sites (Sky/BBC etc) aren't featuring it so I don't know what to make of it.

    Now, without getting into the politics of it, I think we all know what this means, so all I'll say is prep well, watch closely, keep your head and use it if the time comes. IMO, the next couple of days are going to be crucial in determining what kind of future we have. Links below.

    http://www.eutimes.net/2013/08/putin-orders-massive-strike-against-saudi-arabia-if-west-attacks-syria/
    http://iranian.com/posts/view/post/19821


  • Registered Users Posts: 412 ✭✭Iano_128


    I'm not a survivalist or prepper or whatever the correct term for it is but Jesus! That could be some very serious shìt if it's true!!


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,691 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tabnabs




  • Registered Users Posts: 412 ✭✭Iano_128


    This is why I hate reading newspapers or anything like that, way too much bias and propaganda involved you never know how honest any side is being or how much things are being twisted to suit one cause or justify why people do what they do.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,691 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tabnabs


    In the event of a SHTF scenario, stay away from social media

    http://www.firehouse.com/news/11129858/social-media-hampering-helping-crews-battling-rim-blaze
    "One of the biggest problems we have had is social media," Tuolumne Utilities District spokeswoman Lisa Westbrook said last week. The Rim fire has been burning in Tuolumne and Mariposa counties, spreading into Yosemite National Park as it grew to nearly 150,000 acres.

    Westbrook said people are posting fire information on Facebook about where the blaze is heading or which neighborhoods are being evacuated, and the information is wrong.

    Deputies and firefighters have to spend valuable time getting the correct information out.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,691 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tabnabs


    A 15-year-old herder has died in Kyrgyzstan of bubonic plague - the first case in the country in 30 years - officials say.

    The teenager appears to have been bitten by an infected flea.

    The authorities have sought to calm fears of an epidemic and have quarantined more than 100 people.

    Bubonic plague, known as the Black Death when it killed an estimated 25 million people in Europe during the Middle Ages, is now rare.

    World Health Organisation epidemic disease expert Eric Bertherat told the BBC there were about 400 cases of bubonic plague reported in 2012.

    He said Africa accounted for more than 90% of cases worldwide - especially Madagascar and the Democratic Republic of Congo.

    Dr Bertherat said that bubonic plague in Central Asia was usually transmitted by fleas attached to small wild mammals, which meant that only those who lived in rural areas and worked outside for long hours were in danger of being affected.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-23843656


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,111 ✭✭✭ShadowFox


    Fukushima nuclear plant Leaking into the ocean for the last 2 years
    http://offgridsurvival.com/fukushimaleaking/


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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,691 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tabnabs


    Fallout shelters/bunkers still doing good business in the States
    Part of a small but vocal group of survivalists in Menifee, some 80 miles east of Los Angeles, Jones, 46, has pushed for the right to build a bunker on his 1-acre property for nearly a year. He wants to be ready for anything, be it natural disaster or a nuclear attack.

    “The world is taking a change,” he says. “I want to be prepared. I want my family to survive.”

    Residents of the small city once known for its farming and mining can begin applying for permits to build their subterranean housing this month after the City Council passed a hotly contested ordinance allowing the practice.

    http://www.timesdaily.com/news/nation/article_e6965ce8-18e0-11e3-bffd-001a4bcf6878.html


  • Registered Users Posts: 428 ✭✭wolfeye


    They include the risks of cyber attacks on our finance,power and transport networks,of engineered viruses and of networks of computers that could develop a mind of their own and threated the human race.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/10306413/Britains-academics-to-produce-doomsday-list-of-catastrophic-events.html

    http://web.orange.co.uk/article/news/doomsday_list_scenarios_to_be_investigated


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,691 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tabnabs


    The flooding was so intense it toppled buildings in some places the heavy rains began overnight last Wednesday.

    At least four people were killed, including a couple swept away in floodwaters after stopping their car northwest of Boulder.

    It was triggered by unusually heavy late-summer storms that drenched Colorado's biggest urban centers, from Fort Collins near the Wyoming border south through Boulder, Denver and Colorado Springs.

    National Guard troops have plucked stranded residents out of danger by helicopter and hauled them out of an inundated community in military trucks.

    Guard members rumbled into the hard-hit town of Lyons through waist-high water and went door to door to pull out up to 2,000 trapped residents.

    Elsewhere in the state, search and rescue teams used helicopters to hoist 200 residents to safety one by one.

    http://www.rte.ie/news/2013/0914/474209-colorado-floods/


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,956 ✭✭✭Doc Ruby


    The US Department of Defence has declassified its 2009 Concept of Operations Plan for an Influenza Pandemic.

    Among the Plan's assumptions are that in the United States, such a pandemic will kill 2 percent of the infected population, or about 2 million people.

    The plan also assumes that a vaccine won't be available for at least 4 to 6 months after confirmation of sustained human transmission, and that the weekly vaccine manufacturing capability will only produce 1 percent of the total US vaccine required.

    State and local governments will be overwhelmed, and civilian mortuary operations will require military augmentation. Measures such as limiting public gatherings, closing schools, social distancing, protective sequestration and masking will be required to limit transmission and reduce illness and death.

    International and interstate transportation will be restricted to contain the spread of the virus. If a pandemic starts outside the US, it will enter the country at multiple locations and spread quickly to other parts of the country.

    Makes for interesting reading! Sobering repercussions though. They're saying that you are on your own in terms of vaccinations (not cures) for up to half a year, and they won't be able to make enough vaccine to guarantee everyone gets some for two years. So that's you potentially fukced for two and a half years unless you can sequester yourself away from contact with other people for that time. The damn thing will have gone around the world a half dozen times by then, everyone not living on the moon is going to get it. Even the likes of the Mormons with their mandated year's supply of food are wide open in this scenario.

    Travel will be limited so if you're going somewhere get out quick, public gatherings stopped (malls and shopping centres shut down as well as the schools), basically you'll be getting your groceries delivered by a man in a uniform.

    I can't speak for anyone else here but when I think about the ability of our 'de banks dunnit' government working in tandem with the 'strike for salaries' public sector to keep people alive...

    ...I have a doubt.

    That assumes there even is a workable plan, Kriss was going to get in contact with the minister responsible to critique the insane lack of even basic planning in place should a pandemic hit Ireland, before he fell off the internet.

    If the next pandemic walks in the shoes of the Spanish flu you're looking at 3-5% fatalities. The DoD has trimmed that down to 2% due to modern healthcare, but most of the world doesn't have that so we'd be looking at anywhere between a quarter and a third of a billion dead globally. Ireland, maybe a few hundred thousand in the worst case. Question is how to minimise your exposure for the duration?

    I don't care about meteor strikes. I don't care about alien invasions. I don't care about clathrate guns, economic apocollapses, oil running out, nuclear war, the illuminati herding people into death camps, that's all a pile of bollocks.

    People need to understand that barring some medical revolution in virus treatment, this is going to happen. It is not a question of if but when.

    Believe it.

    If you haven't the time to read the full PDF, go watch the movie Contagion, it's written from the same script.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,111 ✭✭✭ShadowFox




  • Registered Users Posts: 4,111 ✭✭✭ShadowFox


    UNIONS AT THE Electricity Supply Board are to conduct a ballot for industrial action in a dispute over pension arrangements.

    http://www.thejournal.ie/esb-strike-ballot-action-1094879-Sep2013/?utm_source=twitter_self


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,111 ✭✭✭ShadowFox


    Flights cancelled and nuclear power plant on alert as typhoon hits China

    http://www.thejournal.ie/asia-storm-1095137-Sep2013/?utm_source=twitter_self


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,433 ✭✭✭touts


    ShadowFox wrote: »
    UNIONS AT THE Electricity Supply Board are to conduct a ballot for industrial action in a dispute over pension arrangements.

    http://www.thejournal.ie/esb-strike-ballot-action-1094879-Sep2013/?utm_source=twitter_self

    Interesting. No government want's to be in power when the lights, water, gas, phones, heating, hospitals, factories, shops etc go off. But they may have backed themselves into a corner because they can't be seen to be beating the crap out of the ASTI and any other public sector union that steps out of line and at the same time rolling over to give the already vastly overpaid 100K a year average Electricity workers yet more perks. Given this government's track record of ballsing things up I'd say it's time to check the gas drum in the shed and stock up on candles.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,691 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tabnabs


    SHTF bag/case for American classrooms.

    http://www.courant.com/business/hc-habco-school-survival-kit-20130918,0,4461170.story
    The briefcase contains a first aid kit, a small whiteboard, radio frequency locaters, and a portable oxygen generator, the kind of technology used for emergencies in airplanes cabins, tools that support the State Department's "run, hide, fight" response to shooters, Montanari said.

    One solution would be a kit in every classroom, giving teachers access to the tools in the event of a shooting. Another option would be keeping the kits near main offices and taking them to sporting events.

    DSCF3201cropped-052213-1024x768.jpg

    The standard kit includes:

    TraumAid™ Portable Chemical Oxygen Generator - 15yr shelf life
    Tactical Smoke Bomb
    Ultra Ruger Pepper Spray - Strobe, Pass Alert (Audible Locator)
    Stun Deterrent Device
    13’ Window Ladder
    Fat Max Door Stop (& Breaks Glass)
    First Aid Kit
    Small White Board & Markers (Silent Communication)
    PinPoint Locator

    https://www.habco.biz/products/medical-and-survival/survival-kits/hab-traumaid-srk-s-school-survival-rescue-kit/


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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,111 ✭✭✭ShadowFox


    By the looks of this we are going to have a white Christmas http://realityweather.eu/white-christmas/ get your supplies in now before the shops double the prices


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