Marriage Equality Referendum

Again according to my IT/Census calculations, there are about as many males aged 40+ who will vote 'yes' as there are males+females 18-30. (558,000 vs 537,000 respectively.) That just goes to show the significance of the younger vote.

Aard wrote: »

Spoke to some younger voters today. The level of belief that the referendum will pass with flying colours (paraphrasing there) is astonishing. When I highlighted my concern that the referendum won't pass they were equally astonished. I am increasingly of the belief that this referendum will pass or fail based solely on turnout of students and graduates.

Was furious today , was eating lunch with this guy and discussing the referendum and he said he wasn't voting as he wasn't registered to vote yet! and his reason for not registering yet? He said ah sure it'll obviously pass like! And what pissed me off more is the fact that this guy is gay as christmas, like he's not out but he's so obviously gay and has shown no interest in women as long as Ive known him. Anyway his lovely german friend went on a mad one saying how lazy and ignorant he was being and made him promise he will go an register to vote , if not for himself then for her, as she's a german citizen she's not allowed to vote but wishes she could.

hopgog wrote: »

Just so you know when you come to the door I say yes too so you won't bother me call me a bigot, but on the day I will be voting No twice.

:rolleyes:

L1011 wrote: »

Stating intent to commit a serious crime (personation) on a public forum is an incredibly stupid thing to do.

Also surprisingly popular. Even in the recent past tense, too.

Does anybody know what the story is with posters on lampposts etc? There's a few put up in my area that are very low down on the poles, restricting view of traffic and the likes. Is there somebody I can complain to about this? And yes, I am trying to be as obstructive as legally possible to the "No" campaign.

Report to whom?

Does anybody else fear like me that after said referendum will be pressured into conforming to heterosexual norms. I've always considered marriage to be too bourgeois and middle class. After its passes I'll be pressured by my mother/boyfriend etc into marruage.

Madame_Diem wrote: »

Does anybody else fear like me that after said referendum will be pressured into conforming to heterosexual norms. I've always considered marriage to be too bourgeois and middle class. After its passes I'll be pressured by my mother/boyfriend etc into marruage.

Then tell your mother/boyfriend that you consider marriage to be bourgeois and middle class and that you don't want to get married. Problem solved. No need to restrict every other adult from making a decision about their life just because you can't stand your ground.

feardeas wrote: »

This fella would be late 30s I guess, professional and a gaa head. [...]

It kind of tells me that not all people minded towards no are silent although from what i heated he was a bit taken aback that all in his company were definite yes voters.

The GAA, "possibly the most heterosexual sport in the world", as I heard someone say recently, which I thought was rather hysterical. I think it's one of those things it's very easy to be in a "bubble" on, either way. The Yesses talk to their friends, and are sure the opinion polls are right. Why even bother to register or to vote, sure it'll pass anyway? Almost a no-class thing to "run up the score" on the poor traditionalists! Meanwhile the Nos talk to their friends, and are sure the opinion polls are all a metropolitan liberal big lie conspiracy, and are determined to go and vote to prove it.

alaimacerc wrote: »

The GAA, "possibly the most heterosexual sport in the world", as I heard someone say recently, which I thought was rather hysterical. I think it's one of those things it's very easy to be in a "bubble" on, either way. The Yesses talk to their friends, and are sure the opinion polls are right. Why even bother to register or to vote, sure it'll pass anyway? Almost a no-class thing to "run up the score" on the poor traditionalists! Meanwhile the Nos talk to their friends, and are sure the opinion polls are all a metropolitan liberal big lie conspiracy, and are determined to go and vote to prove it.

Bubble as right. It depends on who you are chatting to although I have to say I have hear very few people chatting about it day to day.

HIB wrote: »

Just watching the news there and they asked the pro gay marriage guy what is the difference between marriage and civil partnership. He said something about being treated as equal citizens. Didn't give any tangible examples though. Can anyone elaborate ? What will be the actual, tangible differences? E.g. will marriage as opposed to civil partnership sort out some inheritance issues? Or maybe the right to a say in medical treatment of your partner?

Apparently there are approx 160 statutory differences between civil partnership and civil marriage. See : http://www.marriagequality.ie/getinformed/marriage/faqs.html

feardeas wrote: »

Was chatting to a friend today. He told me that he in turn was chatting to a group of people recently. 3 out of four were voting yes. The other one ,a mutual aquaintence, said he wasn't in favour of it and didn't agree with it. He didn't give a reason. This fella would be late 30s I guess, professional and a gaa head. I found it interesting that he took that view. Not shocked but thought he'd be more open. Still it seems he won't vote at all.

It kind of tells me that not all people minded towards no are silent although from what i heated he was a bit taken aback that all in his company were definite yes voters.

We don't really know what his views are, or reasons are, if he didn't give them. Without knowing his reasons its hard to say its down to closed mindedness or anything else in particular.

feardeas wrote: »

Was chatting to a friend today. He told me that he in turn was chatting to a group of people recently. 3 out of four were voting yes. The other one ,a mutual aquaintence, said he wasn't in favour of it and didn't agree with it. He didn't give a reason. This fella would be late 30s I guess, professional and a gaa head. I found it interesting that he took that view. Not shocked but thought he'd be more open. Still it seems he won't vote at all.

It kind of tells me that not all people minded towards no are silent although from what i heated he was a bit taken aback that all in his company were definite yes voters.

I'm finding this referendum is a good barometer of assholery. You get a real sense of what people are really like, and who sits where on your naughty and nice list.