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  • 18-11-2007 3:03am
    #1
    foxface
    Registered Users Posts: 41 ✭


    pete doherty is a beautiful poet and observer of our generation

    or

    junkie scumbag.

    i can maybe guess the responses, but Im interested to know why, in either case?

    title meant to be throw


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  • #2
    cazzy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,027 ✭✭✭cazzy


    A bit of both


  • #3
    foxface
    Registered Users Posts: 41 ✭foxface


    in what way, cazzy?
    i too am both (but more erring on the genius end):)


  • #4
    Brethitmanhart
    Registered Users Posts: 244 ✭✭Brethitmanhart


    Junkie Scumbag, He's not a good singer at all, has very little talent, it's unbelieveable how far he has got with what he's been given.


  • #5
    foxface
    Registered Users Posts: 41 ✭foxface


    Really? I personally thnk he writes something approaching poetry. youre of a deifferent opinion? ( i think what im asking is, your opinion on the 'music', differentiating from his tabloid heaven status. do we judge him as the papers do or because we genuinely think hes sh*t?


  • #6
    purplegeko
    Registered Users Posts: 355 ✭✭purplegeko


    He has talent but he also seems to have a self-destruct button that he enjoys pushing; he needs to be given a wake up call before he goes too far.


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  • #7
    foxface
    Registered Users Posts: 41 ✭foxface


    purplegeko wrote: »
    He has talent but he also seems to have a self-destruct button that he enjoys pushing; he needs to be given a wake up call before he goes too far.

    I completely agree.. Its hard to see what would work though. Its just a pity that he is in danger of joining the cliched group of rock n roll stars, imo.


  • #8
    davejones
    Closed Accounts Posts: 125 ✭✭davejones


    purplegeko wrote: »
    He has talent but he also seems to have a self-destruct button that he enjoys pushing; he needs to be given a wake up call before he goes too far.



    The sooner he presses that button the better imo
    "CAN'T STAND HIM"
    so self obsessed its unbelievable!
    Your a junkie, big f-ing deal.


  • #9
    Amz
    Registered Users Posts: 14,330 ✭✭✭✭Amz


    I'm a big music fan and what he does is not music. He courts the media whether people believe it or not, he used his binging etc. to get publicity for his band, the first lot got fed up and got rid of him and the new lot well, what have they done for music lately?

    He can't sing, the music is rubbish and the sooner something happens to shut him up and get the media to stop glamourising his behaviour the better.


  • #10
    SlinkyToo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 226 ✭✭SlinkyToo


    He is a consumate actor and PR genius. Pete has never taken heroin and continues to be arrested for possession and let off.

    At the last count he was up to 14 arrests... Well Done Max Clifford


  • #11
    lucyburn
    Closed Accounts Posts: 171 ✭✭lucyburn


    foxface wrote: »
    pete doherty is a beautiful poet and observer of our generation

    or

    junkie scumbag.

    i can maybe guess the responses, but Im interested to know why, in either case?

    title meant to be throw

    i think that he is a beautiful poet and a beautiful man
    it's a shame him and kate couldn't work out their problems.
    foxface wrote: »
    in what way, cazzy?
    i too am both (but more erring on the genius end):)

    Agreed he is a genius and a excellent musician
    And i fancy the pants of him.:o


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  • #12
    SlinkyToo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 226 ✭✭SlinkyToo


    uuggh it is amazing how the cult of media sends hormones raging.

    If you fancy Pete, there are plenty of filthy tramps on the streets. some of them sing and play guitar.


  • #13
    lucyburn
    Closed Accounts Posts: 171 ✭✭lucyburn


    SlinkyToo wrote: »
    uuggh it is amazing how the cult of media sends hormones raging.

    If you fancy Pete, there are plenty of filthy tramps on the streets. some of them sing and play guitar.


    Very funny...not
    I think your just jealous of his talent and looks.


  • #14
    SlinkyToo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 226 ✭✭SlinkyToo


    Yeah Dead Jealous... I wish I could pull a girl who is into flithy disease ridden drug addled failed musicians.

    Oh but wait I can... give me a week in the dumpster behind Dunnes Stores and then I will give Lucy my number.

    Or better yet Kate Moss...


  • #15
    togster
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,931 ✭✭✭togster


    SlinkyToo wrote: »
    I wish I could pull a girl who is into flithy disease ridden drug addled failed musicians.

    ...

    Some problems with your post... Filtyh maybe, disease ridden; how do you know? And he's not a failed musician ust because he doesn't prescribe to the typical pop cultere you are accustomed to doesn't make him a failed musician. The definition of a successful musician is quantative. Your definition is different to mine. he has a loyal following. BTW have you listened to his new music or music from the libertines. Don't be corrumpted because of what you read in the papers.


  • #16
    SlinkyToo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 226 ✭✭SlinkyToo


    Each to their own... I just can't see the point in him... If he overdosed I might listen to his music but otherwise he will continue to be a page 7 entry in the Sun.

    I suppose when you look back in 20 years on the teenage crush you will wonder what you saw in him.

    Some links to show what a stunning talent he is -

    http://www.smh.com.au/news/music/singers-album-sales-soar-after-megagig/2005/07/05/1120329392465.html

    http://indiemusic.suite101.com/article.cfm/indie_news_this_week


  • #17
    rannerap
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,900 ✭✭✭rannerap


    Brethitmanhart wrote: »
    Junkie Scumbag, He's not a good singer at all, has very little talent, it's unbelieveable how far he has got with what he's been given.


    +1


  • #18
    togster
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,931 ✭✭✭togster


    Sarannewrap wrote: »
    +1

    Have you listened to any of his music? Particularily the olders stuff? He mightn't be the best singer but he is a genius songwriter.


  • #19
    SlinkyToo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 226 ✭✭SlinkyToo


    Albrecht Speer was a nazi but should we cut him some slack because he was a genius architect?


  • #20
    humanji
    Registered Users Posts: 19,976 ✭✭✭✭humanji


    Can't say I've any real interest in the man. I'd say that if it wasn't for the media then he'd be nobody. He has talent, but no more than any number of unknown bands around the world. I wouldn't exactly call him a poet either, unless you're willing to call anyone who slaps a song together a poet. He was just lucky that he came about when there was no one else for the media to obsess about.


  • #21
    foxface
    Registered Users Posts: 41 ✭foxface


    im clearly not sure how to quote properly ( please let me know)

    slinky too... hes comparable to a nazi.. and if he overdosed youd be more likely to listen to his music?


    good f**king god.


    lucyburn: same as. and no embarrassed smiley needed for it!!


    ps there is two quality albums to listen too. that is all there is to it imo.


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  • #22
    SlinkyToo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 226 ✭✭SlinkyToo


    The point was we should let Pete off because he is a poet... I don't get your badly worded double post


  • #23
    togster
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,931 ✭✭✭togster


    SlinkyToo wrote: »
    Albrecht Speer was a nazi but should we cut him some slack because he was a genius architect?

    WTF. He isn't a nazi. Don't think he goes around killing jews. He hurts himself. Don't think this discusiion was about whether or not we should "let him off". Have you listened to his records? Anyone?


  • #24
    humanji
    Registered Users Posts: 19,976 ✭✭✭✭humanji


    togster wrote: »
    WTF. He isn't a nazi. Don't think he goes around killing jews. He hurts himself. Don't think this discusiion was about whether or not we should "let him off". Have you listened to his records? Anyone?

    Try not to take things too literally.


  • #25
    togster
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,931 ✭✭✭togster


    humanji wrote: »
    Try not to take things too literally.

    Try not to take things too seriously.


  • #26
    6th
    Registered Users Posts: 17,247 ✭✭✭✭6th


    I think he is "fairly" talented but quite clever, he could be a good cult leader is he ever decided to get his act together. He knows he will get more attention from being someone famous with a story than someone who gets along on talent alone.


  • #27
    humanji
    Registered Users Posts: 19,976 ✭✭✭✭humanji


    togster wrote: »
    Try not to take things too seriously.
    In that case, your post makes even less sense.


  • #28
    SlinkyToo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 226 ✭✭SlinkyToo


    Anyone who buys his CDs is directly contributing to purchase and use of drugs.


  • #29
    lucyburn
    Closed Accounts Posts: 171 ✭✭lucyburn


    SlinkyToo wrote: »
    Anyone who buys his CDs is directly contributing to purchase and use of drugs.


    That is a ridiculous statement.


  • #30
    SlinkyToo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 226 ✭✭SlinkyToo


    Not at all.

    You buy a CD record company gets a piece, Pete gets his royalty, Pete goes to dealer and shoots up.

    Are you telling me he doesn't use his royalty money for gear?


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  • #31
    6th
    Registered Users Posts: 17,247 ✭✭✭✭6th


    SlinkyToo wrote: »
    Not at all.

    You buy a CD record company gets a piece, Pete gets his royalty, Pete goes to dealer and shoots up.

    Are you telling me he doesn't use his royalty money for gear?

    So if you buy a cheeseburger and then all the staff at McDonald get paid. One of the yung fellits that works there goes out and buys are car with the money he saved from his job. He then goes out and knocks down a sweet little blond child and kills them ......... SlinkyToo, you are off to jail dont pass GO dont collect €200!


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