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Potential SHTF scenarios & tinfoil hat thread (Please read post 1)

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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,246 ✭✭✭GY A1


    Tabnabs wrote: »

    Not safe having the metal tray sitting on a paper magazine




  • I meant no matter what you put over it.......


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,080 ✭✭✭sheesh


    what about carbon monoxide?


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,088 ✭✭✭aaakev


    sheesh wrote: »
    what about carbon monoxide?
    they are candles man!!!

    But to answer your question, all houses now should have vents so it should not be a problem, not that it would be with a few candles anyway




  • sheesh wrote: »
    what about carbon monoxide?

    I suppose if you put a towel over your head and the candles that would be a problem... also a fire hazard.

    However if you wear a suitable face mask and keep a fire extinguisher handy as well you should be ok.....:P


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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,687 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tabnabs


    The US have just called China's bluff by sending two B52s to fly through a sea area recently claimed by China. The Chinese simply don't have the means to challenge the US militarily, but you'd wonder what else they might try?

    http://edition.cnn.com/2013/11/26/world/asia/china-us-b52s/index.html?iid=article_sidebar


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,687 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tabnabs


    Do you have a LG smart TV? It's watching you...
    South Korean electronics giant LG has confirmed that some of its smart TVs have been logging their owners' viewing habits without their permission and has promised a patch.

    Hull, UK–based developer Jason Huntley, aka "DoctorBeet," was first to notice the spying behavior when he analyzed network traffic coming from his LG TV and found that it transmitted the names of TV channels and media files he was watching, even when a data-collection feature was supposedly disabled.

    On Thursday, a second blogger tried to replicate Huntley's results and found that his own set was also transmitting the names of media files hosted on his local network.
    http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/11/22/lg_tv_spying_statement/


  • Registered Users Posts: 273 ✭✭Danpad


    Tabnabs wrote: »
    The US have just called China's bluff by sending two B52s to fly through a sea area recently claimed by China. The Chinese simply don't have the means to challenge the US militarily, but you'd wonder what else they might try?

    http://edition.cnn.com/2013/11/26/world/asia/china-us-b52s/index.html?iid=article_sidebar

    Well, Russia made Syria a no-go for America and Iran are seemingly playing ball. The U.S has to go searching for the next bogey man in order to keep up their 'homeland security' plans. Read an interesting statistic the other day (possibly on this forum?) that American police have killed nearly as many American citizens since 9/11 as American troops have been killed in Iraq!


  • Registered Users Posts: 273 ✭✭Danpad


    China have sent fighter jets into the zone...how many minutes to midnight did they say it was a few months ago?


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,687 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tabnabs


    They've also put their navy to sea in the first exercise of its kind for the PLA.
    In late October, flotillas of Chinese warships and submarines sliced through passages in the Japanese archipelago and out into the western Pacific for 15 days of war games.

    The drills, pitting a "red force" against a "blue force," were the first in this area, combining ships from China's main south, east and north fleets, according to the Chinese military. Land-based bombers and surveillance aircraft also flew missions past Japan to support the navy units.

    In official commentaries, senior People's Liberation Army (PLA) officers boasted their navy had "dismembered" the so-called first island chain - the arc of islands enclosing China's coastal waters, stretching from the Kuril Islands southward through the Japanese archipelago, Taiwan, the Northern Philippines and down to Borneo.

    Named Maneuver 5, these were no ordinary exercises. They were the latest in a series of increasingly complex and powerful thrusts through the first island chain into the Pacific. For the first time in centuries, China is building a navy that can break out of its confined coastal waters to protect distant sea lanes and counter regional rivals.

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/11/28/us-china-navy-specialreport-idUSBRE9AQ04220131128


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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,687 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tabnabs


    The Blue Flu, except in Argentina, they go nuts when the cops are out of action.
    Television film showed mostly youngsters breaking into supermarkets and robbing food, drinks and electronics, while the stores were defenseless. Women could also be seen.

    Public transport has warned that without law enforcements officers back on the beat they will not be operating on Wednesday since some of their units and passengers have been mugged.

    The conflict started after negotiations for salary increases with the provincial government broke down and the police force decided to go on strike.

    http://en.mercopress.com/2013/12/04/looting-spreads-in-argentina-s-third-largest-city-as-police-go-on-strike


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,687 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tabnabs


    National Weather Warnings

    STATUS RED

    Wind Warning for Donegal, Galway, Leitrim, Mayo and Sligo

    Warning update.
    It will become stormy later today and for a time tonight, in coastal counties of Connacht and west Ulster, with severe southwest winds with mean speeds of 70 to 90km/h and damaging gusts of 120 to 150km/h, strongest in exposed coastal areas. Very high seas also.
    Issued:
    Wednesday 18 December 2013 09:00
    Valid:
    Wednesday 18 December 2013 15:00 to Thursday 19 December 2013 03:00


    STATUS ORANGE

    Wind Warning for Cavan and Clare

    It will become stormy for a time later this afternoon and evening, with severe southwest winds, gusting 100 to 120 km/h, strongest in exposed areas.
    Issued:
    Wednesday 18 December 2013 10:00
    Valid:
    Wednesday 18 December 2013 15:00 to Wednesday 18 December 2013 23:59


    STATUS YELLOW

    Wind Warning for Remaining counties

    Very windy later this afternoon and evening with very strong and blustery south veering southwest winds and gusts of 90 to 100km/h
    Valid 1500 to 2400h
    Issued:
    Wednesday 18 December 2013 10:00
    Valid:
    Wednesday 18 December 2013 15:00 to Wednesday 18 December 2013 23:59

    http://www.met.ie/nationalwarnings/default.asp


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,324 ✭✭✭Cork boy 55


    Police have warned of the possibility that people may have to be evacuated from their homes in east Belfast, over concerns that a tidal coastal surge could cause serious flooding in the area on Friday afternoon.

    Assistant Chief Constable Stephen Martin said residents living in homes between the Holywood Road and Sydenham Bypass and in streets around the Connswater River area should "move their valuables upstairs" and "pack a case" in the event of an evacuation.

    http://www.u.tv/News/Evacuations-possible-amid-flood-alert/8422bb09-56ff-4adf-9689-406885a7c2ac


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,687 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tabnabs


    Canada has reported North America’s first case of H5N1 bird flu infection, in an Alberta resident who recently returned from a month’s visit to China.

    The person, whose name and age were not revealed, was complaining of feeling ill on Dec. 27 when flying from Beijing to Vancouver and then on to Edmonton. The patient was admitted to hospital on Jan. 1 and died Jan. 3.

    Federal public health officials said confirmation of the rare H5N1 infection was made Tuesday evening and Canada informed officials of the World Health Organization on Wednesday.

    http://globalnews.ca/news/1069988/watch-live-flu-update-from-health-minister-public-health-officials/


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,599 ✭✭✭Fiskar


    Watch when your neihbour talks about turning off your electricity before theirs!
    One to watch for the winter time and prepare for.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/energy/10572488/No-danger-of-blackouts-says-David-Cameron.html


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,687 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tabnabs


    Watch yourself if on holidays in Turkey. Hope this doesn't spread to other "European" countries...
    Turkey signs law ‘criminalizing’ medical first aid without govt permit

    A medical bill has been signed into law in Turkey that requires doctors to obtain government permission before administering emergency first aid. Critics have blasted the bill as a crackdown on doctors who treat activists injured during protests.

    The bill, which was drawn up by the ruling Justice and Development Party (AKP), punishes health care professionals with up to three years in prison or a fine of almost $1 million if they administer emergency first aid without government authorization.
    http://rt.com/news/turkey-health-ban-aid-850/


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,687 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tabnabs


    Another example of how you can be tracked, by fair means or foul, when using a mobile phone. You may not be taking part in the violence, you're probably running the opposite way to safety, but your mobile can and will give your presence away. Remove the battery or switch it off!
    This was the message received by mobile phone-users present near the scene of violent clashes in Kiev early on Tuesday morning, in what appeared to be a novel attempt by authorities to quell the protests that have swept through the city and turned violent on Sunday night.
    It was not immediately clear how the messages had been distributed. The interior ministry denied involvement, though said it was studying video footage to determine the most "active participants" in the riots and arrest them.

    Telephone provider MTS issued a statement saying it had not been responsible for sending out the messages. "Today we started receiving complaints from users in central Kiev who all received SMS messages from the number 111, containing identical text. We have nothing to do with the distribution."

    Another provider, Kyivstar, also said it was innocent of involvement. A statement said: "We strictly observe the confidentiality of our users, their telephone numbers and locations … We know that there is equipment, so-called 'pirate base stations', which allow SMS distribution or calls to all mobile telephone numbers of all operators within a particular area. But, as an operator, we are unable to identify the activity of these stations."
    http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jan/21/ukraine-unrest-text-messages-protesters-mass-riot


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,687 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tabnabs


    OEP (@emergencyIE) tweeted at 0:17 PM on Sat, Jan 25, 2014:

    Due to large industrial fire in Ballymount, Dublin - emergency services advise that residents in the area keep all windows and doors closed

    (https://twitter.com/emergencyIE/status/427052516053114880)

    Bug out safely or stay put?


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,111 ✭✭✭ShadowFox


    West Coast Orange weather warning in place Yellow Warning for the rest of the country from now until Monday
    http://www.met.ie/nationalwarnings/default.asp


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,111 ✭✭✭ShadowFox


    Tabnabs wrote: »
    OEP (@emergencyIE) tweeted at 0:17 PM on Sat, Jan 25, 2014:

    Due to large industrial fire in Ballymount, Dublin - emergency services advise that residents in the area keep all windows and doors closed

    (https://twitter.com/emergencyIE/status/427052516053114880)

    Bug out safely or stay put?
    Once I was sure there was no chance of the fire spreading towards me Id stay put. Seal all windows, doors, vents and drain holes with plastic and duck tape and wait it out


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  • Registered Users Posts: 943 ✭✭✭SNAKEDOC


    Global pandemic. Ie bird flu or other strain of virus spreads throughout countries worldwide. What would you do where would you go.
    Distinct possibility of this happening within fifty years as the world is over due a mass pandemic its mother natures way of "culling the herd"


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 37,485 Mod ✭✭✭✭Khannie


    SNAKEDOC wrote: »
    the world is over due a mass pandemic its mother natures way of "culling the herd"

    I don't think there's going to be any more herd culling, tbh. Certainly not in more developed countries.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 987 ✭✭✭The Glass Key


    Khannie wrote: »
    I don't think there's going to be any more herd culling, tbh. Certainly not in more developed countries.

    I was going to agree with you there and then I remembered one of my pet hates, which is the "wipe clean" nature of a lot of Western Society, where everything has to be cleanable, cleaned and sanitized. Cleanliness is good but its taken to an extreme in many households. Yes wash your hands before meals and take other sensible precautions where hygiene is concerned but don't over do it. So I have this feeling that people are destroying their natural immunity and setting themselves up for some super bug to get them.


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 37,485 Mod ✭✭✭✭Khannie


    That's all true. I think a bit of dirt is good for you. Our understanding of how disease spreads has come on so much in the last while, coupled with drugs, cheap manufacturing (for things like N95 masks) and so on. I can see a disease having a major impact on lifestyle, but not on total population.

    By Jesus I hope I'm right. :)


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,687 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tabnabs


    I've heard this woman interviewed on the radio before and she makes your average prepper sound conservative

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/pharmaceuticalsandchemicals/9827232/New-antibiotics-are-a-matter-of-life-or-death.html
    Dame Sally says the threat is such that it should be added to the Government’s National Risk Register of Civil Emergencies. I think she’s right. So does the World Health Organisation, the Infectious Diseases Society of America (IDSA), and the European Centre for Disease Prevention and Control. Their repeated warnings that antimicrobial resistance is one of the greatest threats to human health have culminated in the ''10x20 challenge’’ to world governments: to find 10 new antibiotics by 2020.


  • Registered Users Posts: 943 ✭✭✭SNAKEDOC


    In regards to a pandemic now more than ever we are at risk. Someone gets sick and gets on a plane before the WHO know what their dealing with it could already be world wide. There are over 700 cases of antibiotic resistant tb every year thats tb that killed 10 million in a matter of weeks. Just because our understanding of viruses doees not mean one cant suprise us and evolve into a better killing machine. There has been cases of unknown viruses in the us over the past few years alone so whatch this space. In so far as prepping goes and being ready for a real bug out this is my main worry


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,687 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tabnabs


    Big tidal surge predicted this Fri and Sat:

    http://dublincity.wordpress.com/2014/01/29/dublin-city-council-prepares-for-weekend-of-high-tides/

    and
    OPW have advised that there will be a period of very high astronomical Spring Tides approaching and at Highest Astronomical Tide (HAT) in all coastal areas commencing tomorrow Thursday 30th January until Wednesday 5th February 2014.

    Astronomical tides during this period are expected to be highest between Thursday 30th January and Monday 3rd February 2014.
    Whilst surge levels are currently predicted to be negligible today and tomorrow (Wednesday 29th & Thursday 30th January) in all coastal areas, they are predicted to increase substantially in all coastal areas commencing on Friday 31st January as follows:



    0.60m at Dundalk Bay and Drogheda
    0.55m at Dublin Bay
    0.5m at Wicklow Bay
    0.45m at Arklow Bay
    0.45m at Wexford Bay
    0.45m at Suir Estuary / Waterford
    0.35m at Cork Harbour
    0.35m at Dingle Bay & Shannon Estuary
    0.50m at Galway Bay & Clew Bay
    0.50m at Sligo Bay
    0.55m at Donegal Bay
    0.60m at Lough Swilly


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 987 ✭✭✭The Glass Key


    Tabnabs wrote: »

    Add in Southerly gales forecast for Friday that doesn't sound good.

    Along Waterford's coast line I think its only actually a 0.30m increase on last months highest tide but add in a good string wind from the south and that can add another meter or more to that.

    Two highest tides in Waterford area are about 6.30am Saturday morning and 7am Sunday morning at 4.4m (last month we had 4.1m) but the tides either side of that and between are only 10cm or so lower.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 987 ✭✭✭The Glass Key


    Hope its OK to quote this in full http://www.met.ie/nationalwarnings/default.asp
    National Weather Warnings

    STATUS ORANGE

    Wind Warning for Munster, Connacht and Donegal
    An Atlantic storm depression will track to the northwest of the country later Friday night and Saturday.
    Southwest winds gusting 100 to 130 km/h, strongest across the Atlantic counties.
    Frequent heavy showers, some thundery with sleet and snow for a time mainly on higher ground.

    High coastal flood risk too due to the combination of very high spring tides, extremely high waves (greater than 10 m), low pressure and onshore winds - southwest, west and northwest margins most at threat.

    Issued:Thursday 30 January 2014 10:00
    Valid:Saturday 01 February 2014 00:01 to Sunday 02 February 2014 01:00


    STATUS YELLOW

    Wind Warning for Munster, Leinster, Connacht, Donegal, Monaghan and Cavan
    Southerly winds with mean speeds of 45 km/h will gust up to 85 km/h.

    Heavy falls of rain also especially in Connacht, Munster and Leinster, with falls of 25 to 40 mm expected, highest on higher ground in the southwest. Precipitation may initially fall as wet snow.

    Issued:Thursday 30 January 2014 10:00
    Valid:Friday 31 January 2014 03:00 to Friday 31 January 2014 15:00

    If it comes from the West then we (in Waterford) are probably OK but still might be interesting, where did I put my waders.


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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,687 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tabnabs


    Prof Richard Wakeford, Professor of Epidemiology at the University of Manchester, said:

    “From the information currently available, it appears that an elevated level of radioactivity has been detected at the north of the site, but that it is at a low level above normal. Such a level would not pose a risk to health that is more than encountered in everyday life, but until the cause of this increase has been identified (for example, what type of radioactive materials are responsible), the Sellafield management have told non-essential staff not to come into work. This is a prudent precaution until the cause is known and the situation rectified.”

    “There are no operating nuclear reactors at Sellafield, so short-lived radionuclides such as iodine-131 are not present there to any significant extent – therefore no stable iodine tablets should be taken as there is no need. If long-lived radionuclides, such as caesium-137, are responsible, then it will be important to find out what they are so that their source can be identified.”
    http://www.sciencemediacentre.org/expert-reaction-to-detection-of-radiation-at-sellafield/


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