Interesting Dublin pub names

spurious · 07-07-2009 5:25am

dubtom wrote: »

I'm not sure if I imagined it,but I was sure there was a pub around town somewhere (possibly dorset st??) called napper tandys. A search says there is one in the US ok. If it's not a pub here in Dublin is it a song?

There are a few songs that mention Napper Tandy. He was a contemporary of Wolfe Tone and a bit of a 'character' by all accounts.

General Zod · 07-07-2009 9:35am

James Napper Tandy was quite the character.

n February 1792, an allusion in debate by Toler, the attorney-general, to Tandy's personal ugliness, provoked him into sending a challenge. This was treated by the House of Commons as a breach of privilege, and a Speaker's warrant was issued for his arrest, which he managed to elude till its validity expired on the prorogation of parliament.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Napper_Tandy

General Zod · 07-07-2009 9:41am

humberklog wrote: »

A pub opened on the grounds of the old Stardust and named itself Skelly's. Named after a highway robber that frequented Skelly's lane (the road it's on). This Skelly chap lent his name to the term scallywag. As Es's were often pronounced as A's back in them days. So from the man that had Skelly's Lane (and Skelly's pub) named after him also came the term Scallywag.

Having worked in the Texaco on the grounds of the Stardust I can reliably inform you there is no shortage of highway robbers in the vicinity still

Rusty Cogs 08 · 07-07-2009 9:54am

trad wrote: »

The Long Stone on Tara St.

Before Sir John Rogerson and his buddies built the quays of Dublin there was a long stone nearby where ships tied up.

Also the Gravediggers is De Coursey Square beside Galsnevin Cemetery so named because of a hole in the wall through which the grave diggers were watered.

Also the Hole in the Wall, Blackhorse Avenue, self explanatory.

The function of the long stone is not entirely clear. It may have been a memory stone, a mark of possession taken by the first settlers and perhaps raised to Thor or Freyja as was done in the Shetland and Orkney Islands. Olaus Magnus in his work, Compendious History of the Goths, Swedes and Vandals, mentions another purpose, he believes there are high stones, without inscriptions, set up to inform mariners that they may avoid shipwreck, and we find that the custom of placing pillar stones at the landing place was not peculiar to the vikings, it was also done in Kent at "Lapis tituli" or Folkstone, the landing place of the Saxons. Near the stone pillar at Steinness in the Orkney Islands, mounds were also found in which were found nine silver fibulae. Also located nearby in Steiness was another artificial mound of two feet in diameter and thirty six feet high, of a conical outline, occupying the centre of a raised circular platform, which formed a terrace around it. This was the Thingmount and within view was a circle of upright stones alleged to have been a temple dedicated to Thor, and a semicircle of similar stones, which was said to have been either a temple to Freyja or the moon. (Description of the Isles of Orkney, Rev. James Wallace, Edinburgh, 1693). A similar situation existed in Dublin with the Thingmount in close proximity to the long stone, the landing place and as we see below, mounds were also in evidence.

from here
http://www.geocities.com/heatheneurope/stein.html

loyatemu · 07-07-2009 1:58pm

spurious wrote: »

There are a few songs that mention Napper Tandy. He was a contemporary of Wolfe Tone and a bit of a 'character' by all accounts.

The Napper Tandy was on Bride St near Patricks Cathedral. It closed sometime in the mid-90s.

MediaTank · 07-07-2009 2:03pm

loyatemu wrote: »

The Napper Tandy was on Bride St near Patricks Cathedral. It closed sometime in the mid-90s.

Correct, a very dodgy place frequented by the residents of the homeless shelter nearby. It was demolished to make way for apartments in the late 90s.

MediaTank · 07-07-2009 2:06pm

humberklog wrote: »

The Headline (sound pub and happily re-opened) on Clanbrasil St. is simply named so because it was a slightly out of town beer shop for hacks (journos).

Nothing to do with the front pages of newspapers plastered on the walls - 'Man Lands On the Moon', 'JFK Dead' etc. At the gable end over the bookies you can see the original name of the pub - I'll check later, but Thomas Smyth rings a bell.

disssco · 07-07-2009 2:11pm

Gavin shels wrote: »

... has ceased to be afaik, it's not Grumpy Jack's anymore.

Changed name (and possibly ownership??) after somebody was shot dead in it.

humberklog · 07-07-2009 3:52pm

MediaTank wrote: »

Nothing to do with the front pages of newspapers plastered on the walls - 'Man Lands On the Moon', 'JFK Dead' etc. At the gable end over the bookies you can see the original name of the pub - I'll check later, but Thomas Smyth rings a bell.

It does indeed. Ithink you're right too about smith's. I'll be going by there in a moment myself. The news Headlines would be a tie-in to the clientel from which the name came.

Gavin "shels" · 07-07-2009 4:02pm

disssco wrote: »

Changed name (and possibly ownership??) after somebody was shot dead in it.

Yup, was known as "Happy Jacks" after the shooting back in Feb, it's called something different nowadays though.

admiralofthefleet · 07-07-2009 5:10pm

the morgue in templeogue

it has little model of a tram outside on the clock

Spiritoftheseventies · 08-07-2009 12:32am

the Flowing tide abbey street. Upstairs called the high tide, downstairs the low tide.

MediaTank · 08-07-2009 10:28am

admiralofthefleet wrote: »

the morgue in templeogue

it has little model of a tram outside on the clock

It used to be the Templeogue Inn but was known locally as the Morgue due to it's proximity to an undertakers who frequented the pub as did relatives of the deceased. AFAIK, it's on the site of a tram station, the line ran from the city center through Templelogue, Tallaght and on to Blessington.

Spiritoftheseventies · 08-07-2009 10:35am

Thing Mote on suffolk street.

08-07-2009 10:48am

General Zod wrote: »

Having worked in the Texaco on the grounds of the Stardust I can reliably inform you there is no shortage of highway robbers in the vicinity still

Tescos on the grounds of the old Stardust disco?.

Spiritoftheseventies · 08-07-2009 10:53am

Trace Howling Rapper wrote: »

Tescos on the grounds of the old Stardust disco?.

this forum for pub names.

General Zod · 08-07-2009 1:17pm

bayviewclose wrote: »

the Flowing tide abbey street. Upstairs called the high tide, downstairs the low tide.

That's called the Flow and Tide.

apologies, It's a Maxol Petrol station in front of the old Stardust building not a texaco.

bookerboy · 08-07-2009 1:24pm

The mucky Duck in Celbridge.

Spiritoftheseventies · 08-07-2009 1:28pm

bookerboy wrote: »

The mucky Duck in Celbridge.

thats in Kildare!

humberklog · 08-07-2009 2:09pm

General Zod wrote: »

That's called the Flow and Tide.

apologies, It's a Maxol Petrol station in front of the old Stardust building not a texaco.

That pub on Abbey St. is called The Flowing Tide.
There is no upstairs. Only ground level and basement. The bar in the basement is still called The Neptune Bar. The bar on the ground level is The Flowing Tide. There was a pub beside it called The High Tide. This is now re-named.

humberklog · 08-07-2009 2:14pm

bayviewclose wrote: »

the Flowing tide abbey street. Upstairs called the high tide, downstairs the low tide.

No it isn't and never was.

Pflano · 08-07-2009 2:31pm

Would love to know the origin of the Bird Flanagan. Also, the Waxies Dargle (closed now, I think) used to be opposite the Wax Museum off Parnell Square, the Glimmerman - Stoneybatter, the Windjammer, The Speaker Connolly, Mother Redcaps

Spiritoftheseventies · 08-07-2009 2:41pm

humberklog wrote: »

No it isn't and never was.

sorry to explain. There is the flowing tide. If you are meeting someone on ground level its the high tide. downstairs the low tide. Was an old dublin joke!

humberklog · 08-07-2009 3:02pm

bayviewclose wrote: »

sorry to explain. There is the flowing tide. If you are meeting someone on ground level its the high tide. downstairs the low tide. Was an old dublin joke!

Never heard it and I'm drinking in The flowing tide since '85. If that joke was cracked then it would have just led to confusion as there was a pub around the corner called The High Tide. It is where Sean O'Casey's bar is now.
The both pubs were at the time owned by the same owner. The owner decided to name these pubs in the late '50's, before that they had other names with nothing to do with tides.
So on Abbey St you had (and still have) The Flowing Tide and around the corner on Marlborough St you used to have The High Tide (now Sean O'Casey's).

humberklog · 08-07-2009 3:05pm

Pflano wrote: »

Would love to know the origin of the Bird Flanagan. Also, the Waxies Dargle (closed now, I think) used to be opposite the Wax Museum off Parnell Square, the Glimmerman - Stoneybatter, the Windjammer, The Speaker Connolly, Mother Redcaps

The Glimmerman in Stonetbatter is named after the man that would light the street gas light. The Glimmerman is still selling pints of Beamish for 3 quid all day everyday.

The Windjammer is named after a model of very large sized steel hulled sailing ship. Pics of which are in the bar. Still the best early house imo. Pint of Guinness 4.20.

Spiritoftheseventies · 08-07-2009 3:07pm

humberklog wrote: »

Never heard it and I'm drinking in The flowing tide since '85. If that joke was cracked then it would have just led to confusion as there was a pub around the corner called The High Tide. It is where Sean O'Casey's bar is now.
The both pubs were at the time owned by the same owner.
So on Abbey St you had (and still have) The Flowing Tide and around the corner on Marlborough St you used to have The High Tide (now Sean O'Casey's).

could be that someone caught on to joke and decided to call O'Casey's the high tide. And O Caseys never had a downstairs so im not talking about that pub.

humberklog · 08-07-2009 3:14pm

bayviewclose wrote: »

could be that someone caught on to joke and decided to call O'Casey's the high tide. And O Caseys never had a downstairs so im not talking about that pub.

Nope. As said in previous post the owner called them that after a very large flooding. The water breached the liffey and rose to flow past the pub on Abbey Street and stopped at the pub on Malborough St. Thus giving the owner the inspiration to name one The Flowing and the other The High. Both were re-named at the same time:after the flood and when the insurance came through.

Spiritoftheseventies · 08-07-2009 3:18pm

humberklog wrote: »

Nope. As said in previous post the owner called them that after a very large flooding. The water breached the liffey and rose to flow past the pub on Abbey Street and stopped at the pub on Malborough St. Thus giving the owner the inspiration to name one The Flowing and the other The High. Both were re-named at the same time:after the flood and when the insurance came through.

in any case if i was told to meet someone in the high tide it was in neptune bar. downstairs was the low tide.

humberklog · 08-07-2009 3:29pm

bayviewclose wrote: »

in any case if i was told to meet someone in the high tide it was in neptune bar. downstairs was the low tide.

Huh? The Neptune Bar is downstairs and the Flowing tide is upstairs.

Rusty Cogs 08 · 08-07-2009 3:30pm

bayviewclose wrote: »

could be that someone caught on to joke and decided to call O'Casey's the high tide. And O Caseys never had a downstairs so im not talking about that pub.

O'Casey's does have a down stairs (and an upstairs as it happens). Played pool in it many a times (no jokes about tide pools please :rolleyes:)

Interesting Dublin pub names

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