Super Rugby [Super 15] - General Discussion Thread

Richard Graham hands in his reignation as Force coach, off the join the Reds next year :rolleyes:

I hate the new conference set up, Brumbies are third on 24 points, ahead of the Bulls on 29 points, Highlanders with 26 and Hurricanes with 25 points

The new set up is completely to appease the Australians and to get a national competition for them. NZ & SA have proper domestic competitions steeped in history Australia has nothing. Expanding the Super 12/14/15 was their way of getting a situation where their top level players get more game time and they can have a national champion

endabob1 wrote: »

The new set up is completely to appease the Australians and to get a national competition for them. NZ & SA have proper domestic competitions steeped in history Australia has nothing. Expanding the Super 12/14/15 was their way of getting a situation where their top level players get more game time and they can have a national champion

What total crap. New Zealand have a domestic competition that loses them money every year, so an expanded Super Rugby competition and a scaled back NPC is in their interest. South Africa wanted the conference system and even wanted the finals to consist of the top two teams from each country regardless of their table position. The conference system could also allow them to add a 6th team in the future.

Yes. Watched Brumbies vs Rebels last wkd. He started and played pretty well. The Rebels were particularly rubbish mind We'll see how the Brumbies do in their next two games at Blue Bulls (Jake White's old team) and the Golden Lions. Murphy is back on the bench for the Bulls game this Saturday

sock puppet wrote: »

What total crap. New Zealand have a domestic competition that loses them money every year, so an expanded Super Rugby competition and a scaled back NPC is in their interest. South Africa wanted the conference system and even wanted the finals to consist of the top two teams from each country regardless of their table position. The conference system could also allow them to add a 6th team in the future.

What bit of it is crap?
The Conference Structure proposal was formulated by ARU and was only agreed after much negotiations with NZ & SA.
ARU need Super Rugby much more than NZ or SA because they have no domestic competition.
The Currie Cup still attracts big crowds in particular and the development of Super Rugby is always weighed against devaluing the CC, even last year in a RWC year as soon as Bok players were released from duty they were drafted in to the CC Semi Finals.
SARU in particular wanted 16 teams because they had guaranteed a team from Eastern Province and are still working on proposals to make it happen. SARU wanted a top 2 from the conference as opposed to the original proposal of a Super6 which would have meant more games, thus over-running in to the final stages of the CC.

endabob1 wrote: »

What bit of it is crap?
The Conference Structure proposal was formulated by ARU and was only agreed after much negotiations with NZ & SA.
ARU need Super Rugby much more than NZ or SA because they have no domestic competition.
The Currie Cup still attracts big crowds in particular and the development of Super Rugby is always weighed against devaluing the CC, even last year in a RWC year as soon as Bok players were released from duty they were drafted in to the CC Semi Finals.
SARU in particular wanted 16 teams because they had guaranteed a team from Eastern Province and are still working on proposals to make it happen. SARU wanted a top 2 from the conference as opposed to the original proposal of a Super6 which would have meant more games, thus over-running in to the final stages of the CC.

I don't remember hearing about a Super 6, open to correction. Having 2 teams from each country would have made the inter-conference games even more important and would make a team's position on the table irrelevant. The sad reality for New Zealand is that they can't sustain a domestic competition without Super Rugby.

Xavi6 wrote: »

Richard Graham hands in his reignation as Force coach, off the join the Reds next year :rolleyes:

got the sack today

Will Genia is apparently walking out on the Reds to join the Force with Pocock to re-sign as well this week

Link? Big loss for Reds if it's true.

Mind you, with how they've been playing I'd jump ship too

Cipriani is Sale bound, washed down with a healthy dose of "Man Tears"
With Johnson gone as Coach, he might even get to cut the Oranges at half time if he keeps his nose clean.:D

Best of luck to him at Sale Sharks and any future with England, Rugby has enough stories of wasted talent.


"Like many a relationship the one between Danny Cipriani and the Melbourne Rebels ended in tears.But not for the reasons everyone expected.
The mercurial Englishman and the Rebels parted ways on Monday, setting social media alight with questions about his latest indiscretion.
The Rebels defended the 24-year-old five-eighth, who has a history of off-field behavioural issues, and said Cipriani had simply decided to leave early so he could join Sale Sharks in northern England in time for the start of their season.
The tears, according to Cipriani, came after telling his Rebels teammates of his decision, leaving them to face the Bulls on Friday night without him or their injured Wallaby James O'Connor.
Cipriani, who is particularly close to O'Connor and fellow Wallaby Kurtley Beale, tweeted he couldn't hold back the tears when telling the players his news.
"So I said goodbye to the boys: got 5/6 words out couldn't hold my tears back. Thank u truly for making it special. Met some amazing people," Cipriani tweeted."


wwos.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=8459506

Cipriani has put in a few shockers recently for them tho. Was taking a bit of notice of him due to his impending return to sale and it wasn't good! His decision making and execution of simple moves were not what you'd expect.