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Metal Gear Solid 5 (Ground Zeros] ....completed in 2 HOURS!

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    #62
    snausages
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,225 ✭✭✭snausages


    Even IGN are sceptical: http://ie.ign.com/articles/2013/09/06/metal-gear-solid-ground-zeroes-the-splinter-cell-effect


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    #63
    Burky126
    Registered Users Posts: 476 ✭✭Burky126


    snausages wrote: »
    It's not a ridiculous reaction. I honestly think it's more ridiculous to argue over it when it's plainly there in the game footage above as visible as Snake's mullet. He get's shot and the colour leaves the screen. He stops getting shot and the screen brightens, just like Uncharted/CoD etc. It's hardly an assumption.

    You're right,it is ridiculous to argue over it when you can wait and see when the game comes out next month.Or if any more news develops.

    I'm just curious is all and only questioning what I'm seeing based on what facts that are present from news sources at the moment. Just because you appear to have seen what some games depict as regen health doesn't make it so.Remember,this is a series with a history of deceiving its audience on how the final product will play out.Keep that in mind.

    EDIT:Looking at the IGN link.Interesting that it mentions the 'Slow mo' thing which was another controversy towards the game.Later it was revealed that you could turn this off.Maybe you can turn off regen health as well?


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    #64
    K.O.Kiki
    Registered Users Posts: 18,697 ✭✭✭✭K.O.Kiki


    http://www.konami.jp/mgs5/gz/en/products/compare.html

    Detail comparisons on all 4 platforms.

    Think I'll contemplate a PS4 for MGS V: Phantom Pain.


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    #65
    B.A._Baracus
    Registered Users Posts: 11,171 ✭✭✭✭B.A._Baracus


    So the ration is gone? :eek:

    :mad:


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    #66
    richymcdermott
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,447 ✭✭✭richymcdermott


    The more i see gz it reminds me of the changes Io interactive made in hitman absolution which I was not very fond of.

    I dont mind if its there to get more people playing the game but removing and adding features that make the game what it was that you have no control over annoys me deeply.

    I am okay with change but this making it look like mgs is water down


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    #67
    2Mad2BeMad
    Registered Users Posts: 2,790 ✭✭✭2Mad2BeMad


    B.A._Baracus wrote: »
    So the ration is gone? :eek:

    :mad:

    +1 it better not be, other wise I'll have too give this a miss, game seems watered down if thats the case,


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    #68
    J. Marston
    Registered Users Posts: 23,104 ✭✭✭✭J. Marston


    Before a guard enters an alert state, you’ll get a button prompt indicating you’re busted. Hold the left trigger, and you’ll briefly freeze time, giving you the opportunity to pump a couple quiet bullets into an alarmed enemy’s eyeballs.

    Ugh.

    What are you doing, Hideo?


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    #69
    snausages
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,225 ✭✭✭snausages


    richymcdermott wrote: »

    Metal Gear Solid 3 is the pinnacle that I yet seen matched

    MGS3 enemy AI was pretty bad.


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    #70
    danthefan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,770 ✭✭✭danthefan


    J. Marston wrote: »
    Ugh.

    What are you doing, Hideo?

    Can be deactivated, you don't have to use it.


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    #71
    Retr0gamer
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 50,801 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    snausages wrote: »
    MGS3 enemy AI was pretty bad.

    It doesn't matter if its bad though as long as it's fun. Hope that's the case for mgsV plenty of stealth game developers say they make the ai dumber in their games because it makes a better game than ai that is too good and frustrating.
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    #72
    snausages
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,225 ✭✭✭snausages


    Yeah, I know. I'm just saying that it isn't the pinnacle of artifical intelligence in gaming. They pretty much just run after you and that's it. Or they might have a shield. MGS2 was better but I think that had a lot to do with the fact it took place in very tight spaces.


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    #73
    richymcdermott
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,447 ✭✭✭richymcdermott


    snausages wrote: »
    MGS3 enemy AI was pretty bad.

    You can only do so much with the limitations of the console you are using , they opted for a more open world mgs in the jungle so likely the ai was never going to be perfect. Still a hell of alot better than splinter cell and most other games on ps2


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    #74
    Kirby
    Registered Users Posts: 13,084 ✭✭✭✭Kirby


    AI is an element of development that doesn't take up as much space or processing power as the graphical side of things as so much if it involves scripting and binary decisions.

    Some of the best AI in gaming came years ago on archaic platforms and technology. It's mostly talent. They would have had to sacrifice and compromise a lot when going with their larger, jungle setting but AI of enemy soldiers wouldn't have been one of them. Hardware limitation is a poor excuse for lousy programming.


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    #75
    B.A._Baracus
    Registered Users Posts: 11,171 ✭✭✭✭B.A._Baracus


    Was thinking there that the idea of Ground Zeros isn't really a new concept for Kojima. Granted, it's new that you are being charged for it :pac:

    But when you go back to Mgs2 it was split into two chapters, the Tanker and Big Shell. But Konami released a demo for it with the Official Playstation 2 magazine (released in february 2001) and it basically featured the entire tanker chaper (
    all the way up until Ocelot shuts the tanker cargo door after snake
    )

    Same thing happened with MGS3. Virtious Mission and Snake Eater Mission. But yet again the official Playstation 2 magazine gave a free demo that gave us 90% of Virtious Mission (
    demo stopped just before the cutscene to where he meets sokolov for the first time - which is the ending cutscene of that chapter
    )

    So it looks like Kojima / Konami are up to their old tricks again. However, oddly enough in this day and age were demos can be downloaded and do not have to be physically made and bundled along with magazines. They are charging us for the privledge :pac:


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    #76
    Zapp Brannigan
    Registered Users Posts: 8,326 ✭✭✭Zapp Brannigan


    Oooh if that PS4 special edition were to be released over here I think I'd be forced to buy one.


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    #77
    Burky126
    Registered Users Posts: 476 ✭✭Burky126


    So it seems regen health is in the game however,it will only come into effect if minor damage is taken.

    For major damage,you need to use a 'healing spray.'

    http://www.metalgearinformer.com/?p=12947


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    #78
    Captain Chaos
    Registered Users Posts: 11,174 ✭✭✭✭Captain Chaos


    MGS3 had health regen in blocks, this sounds to be the exact same. Most MGS fans say 3 is the best of the lot, I don't see the problem here.


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    #79
    Timmyctc
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,825 ✭✭✭Timmyctc


    Captain Chaos wrote: »
    MGS3 had health regen in blocks, this sounds to be the exact same. Most MGS fans say 3 is the best of the lot, I don't see the problem here.

    Ah it was regen, but you had to wait something like 10-20 mins before a real injury would heal.


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    #80
    brady12
    Registered Users Posts: 1,117 ✭✭✭brady12


    Peace walker is only Mgs I've never played and I'm currently around 40% through its story. I've grown up with snake and I literally going to explode with anticipation . Only gta and Mgs games make me feel this pumped.. Well maybe a naughty dog game would also join this elite list :)


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    #81
    Timmyctc
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,825 ✭✭✭Timmyctc


    brady12 wrote: »
    Peace walker is only Mgs I've never played and I'm currently around 40% through its story. I've grown up with snake and I literally going to explode with anticipation . Only gta and Mgs games make me feel this pumped.. Well maybe a naughty dog game would also join this elite list :)

    IMO peace walker was the worst of the bunch. By a considerable margin. Portable Obs was amazing. MGS1 then MGS3 slightly behind as top two for me.


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    #82
    brady12
    Registered Users Posts: 1,117 ✭✭✭brady12


    I'm enjoying it so far . Did u play it on ps3 version? I will agree with you that snake eater was best.amazing game


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    #83
    calex71
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    Timmyctc wrote: »
    IMO peace walker was the worst of the bunch. By a considerable margin. Portable Obs was amazing. MGS1 then MGS3 slightly behind as top two for me.

    I quiet liked Peace Walker, but not for it's story. Not saying it was all that bad but the real meat of that game was in the extra ops, I got completely hooked on getting all the secrets and managing mother base etc must have put around 80 hours into it, the down side was the laggy peer to peer co-op and the more so the idiots who played it, who just didnt get you had to fulton extract the tank/chopper pilot :mad:

    Though once you get the right gear r&d your able to solo them :pac:

    Didn't play portable ops, was it more of the same kind of thing?


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    #84
    Timmyctc
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,825 ✭✭✭Timmyctc


    calex71 wrote: »
    I quiet liked Peace Walker, but not for it's story. Not saying it was all that bad but the real meat of that game was in the extra ops, I got completely hooked on getting all the secrets and managing mother base etc must have put around 80 hours into it, the down side was the laggy peer to peer co-op and the more so the idiots who played it, who just didnt get you had to fulton extract the tank/chopper pilot :mad:

    Though once you get the right gear r&d your able to solo them :pac:

    Didn't play portable ops, was it more of the same kind of thing?

    Maybe its different strokes etc but I found Portable Ops much much much better. The fulton recovery system was just awful tbh. In Portable Ops it was more difficult and more enjoyable. Definitely give it a go!


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    #85
    snausages
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,225 ✭✭✭snausages


    It sucks that Peacewalker wasn't much fun because this one carries on right from it. I feel kind of lost going in :(


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    #86
    snausages
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,225 ✭✭✭snausages


    Burky126 wrote: »
    So it seems regen health is in the game however,it will only come into effect if minor damage is taken.

    For major damage,you need to use a 'healing spray.'

    http://www.metalgearinformer.com/?p=12947

    tbf, that doesn't do much to assuage my concerns. It'll probably be like bleeding out in Gears of War except instead of having a buddy pick you up you just get under cover and spray yourself.


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    #87
    tok9
    Registered Users Posts: 7,160 ✭✭✭tok9


    Little surprised to hear the dislike regarding Peace Walker. Thought it was excellent myself.

    The more I hear about Ground Zeroes the more I want it.


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    #88
    johnny_ultimate
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 29,094 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    Peace Walker was really fantastic - after MGS4 it was encouraging that there was a game almost entirely focused on 'playing' rather than 'telling'. A welcome companion piece to MGS3, although obviously made for handheld consumption above all. Must give the HD version more time to see if it holds up to big screen play. On PSP though it certainly would have stood up as MGS5, like Kojima said it could have been at the time (although some aspects, like the bosses, definitely stood out less due to the more limited resources).

    Portable Ops had a similar focus on 'game', but it was overall blander, more repetitive and unfortunately crippled by its absolutely dreadful control system. Peace Walker was compromised too, but at least they offered options.


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    #89
    tok9
    Registered Users Posts: 7,160 ✭✭✭tok9


    I still don't understand why Peace Walker isn't included with the HD collection on Vita.

    Seems baffling as it's perfect for it.


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    #90
    B.A._Baracus
    Registered Users Posts: 11,171 ✭✭✭✭B.A._Baracus


    Place your bets :p
    ... So when do you think The Phantom Pain will be released?


    Me thinks early 2015.


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    #91
    tok9
    Registered Users Posts: 7,160 ✭✭✭tok9


    B.A._Baracus wrote: »
    Place your bets :p
    ... So when do you think The Phantom Pain will be released?


    Me thinks early 2015.

    You are an optimistic one.

    I'd late 2015/early 2016. They take ages before they ever get released.

    Sure consider how long ago we saw the Ground Zeros trailer.


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