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John Gilligan gets 6 more months

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  • #32
    saywhatyousee
    Registered Users Posts: 1,511 ✭✭✭saywhatyousee


    Guy:Incognito wrote: »
    Hes wasnt caught coming through the airport with 1/8th in his bag.

    True put there have been cases of people being caught with 10-15 millions worth of heroin and only getting 10 years


  • #33
    Sunnyisland
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,562 ✭✭✭✭Sunnyisland


    say what you see wrote: »
    The 20 year sentence was from 1996 not 2001.His original sentence was extremely harsh as well 28 years from importing hash:eek:


    But we all know that he was really sentenced for organising the murder of veronica guerin and not the Importation of hash.


  • #34
    johnners2981
    Closed Accounts Posts: 429 ✭✭johnners2981


    saywhatyousee wrote: »
    The 20 year sentence was from 1996 not 2001.His original sentence was extremely harsh as well 28 years from importing hash:eek:

    No his sentence began in march 2001


  • #35
    Sunnyisland
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,562 ✭✭✭✭Sunnyisland


    johnners 2981 wrote: »
    No his sentence began in march 2001


    He was in custody in england from 96,That would be taken into account when reviewing his parole.


  • #36
    johnners2981
    Closed Accounts Posts: 429 ✭✭johnners2981


    realies wrote: »
    He was in custody in england from 96,That would be taken into account when reviewing his parole.

    Maybe so but wasn't he supposed to serve an additional 5 years too for threatening to kill two prison officers, what happened that


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  • #37
    twowheelsonly
    Registered Users Posts: 2,268 ✭✭✭twowheelsonly


    Liamario wrote: »
    Convicted of having a mobile phone in prison. Don't doubt for a second that the prison wardens were well aware he had a phone and had seen him use it as well.
    And they did nothing.


    Did you read the report or just the first line??
    He picked the phone up in court and was subsequently searched and the phone recovered.

    Have a read of this article - 15,000 Contraband Items seized in the past 2 years, but don't let that stand in the way of your cheap snide remarks..

    http://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/figures-show-thousands-of-contraband-items-seized-in-irish-prisons-540169.html


  • #38
    Sunnyisland
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,562 ✭✭✭✭Sunnyisland


    johnners 2981 wrote: »
    Maybe so but wasn't he supposed to serve an additional 5 years too for threatening to kill two prison officers, what happened that


    I am guessing here but I suspect that it was a concurrent sentence which meant it was ran into his already serving sentence.


  • #39
    twowheelsonly
    Registered Users Posts: 2,268 ✭✭✭twowheelsonly


    johnners2981 wrote: »
    Maybe so but wasn't he supposed to serve an additional 5 years too for threatening to kill two prison officers, what happened that

    Two years I think???


  • #40
    FGR
    Registered Users Posts: 2,444 ✭✭✭FGR


    stupidusername wrote: »
    WTF, when was he actually convicted? shouldn't it be 22 years and 6 months from that day? (minus time spent in custody before trial)

    Unfortunately the Justice System in this country frowns upon Judges who issue consecutive sentences. 99.9% of sentencing, as such, runs concurrently with whatever else they're serving.

    It's a great 'incentive' for the criminal to commit a lot of crime while waiting for their big trial - knowing all penalties will be served together.


  • #41
    Guy:Incognito
    Registered Users Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    realies wrote: »
    I am guessing here but I suspect that it was a concurrent sentence which meant it was ran into his already serving sentence.

    Concurrent sentences are stupid and pointless. If your going down theres no reason ot to commit a few more crimes first seeing as you'll be serving them all at the same time.


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  • #42
    Patrick2010
    Registered Users Posts: 2,966 ✭✭✭Patrick2010


    Seems like theres no incentive in behaving yourself in prison as in that any sentence you get for bad behavior will be served concurrently with your existing sentence. Its bizarre that he'll be getting out early given his threats to kill prison officers.


  • #43
    lividduck
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,250 ✭✭✭lividduck


    Ikky Poo2 wrote: »
    Depends on the terms of his realease, he may well still be subject to a period of probation.
    No, once he is released he is free and clear, personally I think he should have got life, that way if he ever was released it would be on licience and conditional. He is one evil bast*rd


  • #44
    Liam Byrne
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,163 ✭✭✭✭Liam Byrne


    Run_to_da_hills wrote: »
    johnners2981 wrote: »
    http://www.rte.ie/news/2001/0315/gilligan.html

    So out of a 28 year sentence he serves 11 years and gets another 6 months for being naughty.
    What is the point in these sentences when they are never carried out.
    They are usually handed a sentense and will get anything up to 30% off if they are good. Gives them a more incentive not to act the maggot inside.

    11/28 = 39% SERVED

    That's 61% OFF, which is an absolute disgrace and would be a joke if it weren't letting thugs and low-likes back into out society.


  • #45
    Sunnyisland
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,562 ✭✭✭✭Sunnyisland


    lividduck wrote: »
    No, once he is released he is free and clear, personally I think he should have got life, that way if he ever was released it would be on licence and conditional. He is one evil bast*rd


    Has has been said earlies in this thread he was convicted of importing cannabis, A drug many many people would like to see legalised,why should he have gotten life ?


  • #46
    woodoo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,219 ✭✭✭woodoo


    He won't hang around Dublin long after release. The papers will be all over him. He will go to Spain i'd guess.


  • #47
    Patrick2010
    Registered Users Posts: 2,966 ✭✭✭Patrick2010


    realies wrote: »
    Has has been said earlies in this thread he was convicted of importing cannabis, A drug many many people would like to see legalised,why should he have gotten life ?

    For the murder of a woman?


  • #48
    Sunnyisland
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,562 ✭✭✭✭Sunnyisland


    Patrick2010 wrote: »
    For the murder of a woman?


    He was found not guilty of murder or any anything else to do with the horrible murder of veronica gerren by the courts of this land, He was found guilty on Importing cannabis and initially got 28 years.


  • #49
    RichieC
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,334 ✭✭✭RichieC


    My mate says he's a bit of a joke in the prisons now, youngfellas shouting abuse at him ect..


  • #50
    Patrick2010
    Registered Users Posts: 2,966 ✭✭✭Patrick2010


    realies wrote: »
    He was found not guilty of murder or any anything else to do with the horrible murder of veronica gerren by the courts of this land, He was found guilty on Importing cannabis and initially got 28 years.
    Obviously I know that, but everyone knows he was behind her murder, do you doubt it?


  • #51
    Sunnyisland
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,562 ✭✭✭✭Sunnyisland


    Patrick2010 wrote: »
    Obviously I know that, but everyone knows he was behind her murder, do you doubt it?


    Its not up to anybody or everybody or what I think,Its up to the law of the land and the courts, Gilligan was tried and acquitted of the murder .You cant or imo should not have people in court on one charge and for that person to get sentenced on another.


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  • #52
    KKkitty
    Registered Users Posts: 7,534 ✭✭✭KKkitty


    realies wrote: »
    Patrick2010 wrote: »
    Obviously I know that, but everyone knows he was behind her murder, do you doubt it?


    Its not up to anybody or everybody or what I think,Its up to the law of the land and the courts, Gilligan was tried and acquitted of the murder .You cant or imo should not have people in court on one charge and for that person to get sentenced on another.
    The law of the land sucks. He was behind Veronica Guerin's callous murder leaving a little boy without a mother so I wish him nothing but the worse in life. I know he didn't pull the trigger but he might as well have. Sentences are too lenient in this country.


  • #53
    charlemont
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,725 ✭✭✭charlemont


    saywhatyousee wrote: »
    The 20 year sentence was from 1996 not 2001.His original sentence was extremely harsh as well 28 years from importing hash:eek:

    Crazy sentence, If that's all they could get him for after all of the investigations it says a lot.
    saywhatyousee wrote: »
    True put there have been cases of people being caught with 10-15 millions worth of heroin and only getting 10 years

    Exactly, Its pathetic, Heroin dealers should get larger sentences.
    Liam Byrne wrote: »
    11/28 = 39% SERVED

    That's 61% OFF, which is an absolute disgrace and would be a joke if it weren't letting thugs and low-likes back into out society.

    Liam, He is actually serving twenty years not twenty eight, And his sentences start from the time he was in custody in Ireland, Remember the photo's of him coming off the plane dressed like a clown, I think it was a GB prison uniform.
    realies wrote: »
    Has has been said earlies in this thread he was convicted of importing cannabis, A drug many many people would like to see legalised,why should he have gotten life ?

    True, I think it should be legal too.
    RichieC wrote: »
    My mate says he's a bit of a joke in the prisons now, youngfellas shouting abuse at him ect..

    Yes, They mock the **** out of him, A lot of people don't like him, They blame him for the crackdown after VG's death.
    Patrick2010 wrote: »
    Obviously I know that, but everyone knows he was behind her murder, do you doubt it?

    Yes, There was a lot more to do with that case then the simple theory that JG ordered her death and Brian Meehan drove the bike and Dutchy Holland shot her, A lot of criminals fled and others ratted their way out of it so I reckon it was a much larger operation than just those three. I'd almost wager that DH didn't even shoot her, I reckon one of the informers actually done it and I'd say another well known criminal that VG knew was heavily involved.


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