Killer Instinct Discussion Thread

I agree with Ramza, this game will fail.
Reason is right in the thread title.

:pac:

Despite my hatred of his actual visual design, I like the direction they went with Glacius' gameplay. I also like how he has massive amounts of ice sparks instead of energy sparks like Jago has. All his ice stuff in general actually looks great... his new character design really is terrible though

However, I'm curious to see how they balance full screen unblockables with full screen combos.

So it's Chief Thunder. He wasn't actually shown though, just a quick video of one of his axes hitting a tree.

That gameplay demo was something else though, in my oppinion. I really want to play thing. It looks like a hell of a lot of fun. The "counter breaker" is a fantastic idea.

Sairus wrote: »

Counter Breaker is a good idea, but I think that demo actually turned more people off the game than impressed them. That was a really really bad demo.

Yeah, I honestly C-C-C-C-C-C-COMBO BREAKER can't see this C-C-C-C-C-C-COMBO BREAKER game catching on. Very C-C-C-C-C-C-COMBO BREAKER little flow to C-C-C-C-C-C-COMBO BREAKER the gameplay. I C-C-C-C-C-C-COMBO BREAKER think it'll turn C-C-C-C-C-C-COMBO BREAKER out exactly how C-C-C-C-C-C-COMBO BREAKER Ramza described KI1+2.

http://ie.ign.com/articles/2013/07/14/killer-instinct-character-profiles

Character Profiles presented at 720p 60fps for those who are interested.

J0hnick wrote: »

MarkMan and Filthy Rich getting booed into silence at the start of the presentation says it all really, Id love to have the game but Im not paying €500 for it. If they release a graphically scaled down version on the 360 that plays the same (like the 3DS version of SSF4) ill buy it in a heart beat.

yea man, even though i would love to see this game do well i doubt it will happen due to all the XBox One f*** ups and people still believing that the game is Digital purchase only and ftp but all characters needed to be bought separately enforcing the anger of already upset gamers towards MS thinking its another one of their money grabbing scams.

ive already seen soooo many vids on Youtube by people who are saying KI will be **** cause people were booing it at Evo, thus spreading negativity. such a shame...

This game is destined to flop

Don't get me wrong it looks pretty fun but I mean competitively this game is gonna go nowhere. I have that feeling for some reason, just judging from what I see and past KIs etc

Ramza wrote: »

Don't get me wrong it looks pretty fun but I mean competitively this game is gonna go nowhere. I have that feeling for some reason, just judging from what I see and past KIs etc

The same was said about the latest MK because of it's rickety history, yet it mananged to prove most folks wrong. It's also been about 15 years since the last Killer Instinct, so it's kinda hard to judge it that way. I reckon, if anything, it's this free-to-play business model that's going to ruin the competitive side of KI. Even if it's well balanced, this will provide it with a serious uphill struggle.

http://www.twitch.tv/madcatz/b/432597671

Stream Footage from San Diego Comic Con 2013 by MadCatz.

Max vs FilthieRich FT3 that starts at the 21min mark is a pretty sick set worth watching (IMO)

Media999 wrote: »

What are they playing it on?

im pretty sure they are playing this current build on a PC but the game will be released on the Xbox One exclusively.

After watching a lot of videos, here's my current view on the game right now, not that it matters :pac:

Combo Breakers, even though they are an integral part of KI, are ironically going to ruin/downgrade the metagame of the game, the same way they did in KI1/KI2. No one wants their combo broken, and the longer you go in a combo, the higher risk you run of it being broken. High level KI revolved around people being very turtley and using short, unbreakable combos. This took away from the game in so many ways. I have no idea how this will equate in this iteration of KI, but, it will have the same effect I think. People will find unbreakables. If not, they will keep combos short with manual doubles. But, this will result in very little damage. It's going to be interesting to see how it pans out. Going for longer combos in a set with an opponent is riskier especially because we haven't seen that high of a level of this game yet, I am going to go ahead and say high level is going to revolve around reacting to auto doubles/linkers for easy breakers, thus tieing in with my point that people are going to keep combos short/unbreakable in some way

I think Lockout is a fantastic mechanic, I can see people just doing heavies during lockouts and then ender, and not risking a chance for the opponent to break their combo. Like I said before, if the combos end up being short/unbreakable in some way, we wont see a lot of this mechanic at all

Shadow breakers right now are RIDICULOUS. You can break a shadow move with 0 effort and 0 cost. That is totally imbalanced as of right now. Your opponent spends a meter on a shadow move to punish/capitalise on a mistake your make, and you can break it for free. It costs nothing. You have to tap LP+LK three times I believe in rhythm of your opponents shadow hits, to break it. This is insanely imbalanced. My take on it is that, it should cost instinct meter to break a shadow move. It shouldn't cost super meter. This adds more depth and fairness to the metagame, should you save your instinct and try to break the followup combo after the shadow move? Should you use instinct for breaking shadow moves thus, saving yourself a lot of damage, at the cost of your instinct? It would be a great addition to the game (obviously split the instinct bar in two like the super meter, for this)

Counter breakers are well..pretty good as far as I can see. The mechanics seem a little odd right now, it's hard to call how the game will pan out. If like I said before, the game doesn't revolve around high combo numbers, this mechanic becomes invalid. But this actually looks to be a pretty good mechanic. The only thing is, you should be vulnerable for longer after a failed counter breaker, right now, it seems as though you aren't vulnerable for that long. Lockout should last much longer after a successful counter breaker too, risk reward needs looking at for this mechanic.

Other things IMO that need addressing, Jago's health recovers too fast in instinct, glacius' shatter is a bit ridiculous , damage needs to be brought up, that's my two cents for now I guess

i'm not a fanboy or anything for Max, but these vids are pretty good in explaining the mechanics for those who aren't quite sure whats going on.



also this next vid is just the Youtube version of the stream link i previously posted from MadCatz.



finally, im loving the music from Mick Gordon... this is just a sample from PAX Australia 2013.

KI at Super Arcade.

Lol look how ridiculously broken he looks, does game balance ever enter their heads at all when designing this ****?