Bangernomics car of the week/day - Part II

RoverJames wrote: »

The tax on a €1200 ish 740i is looney relative to the car's value, €1600+/annum, most folks willing to spend €1600+ on tax would need to earn €3000 to pay that €1600. All well and good saying the car is priced accordingly.

I'm not saying it isn't looney.

Jimdagym wrote: »

I think the point cadilac is making is that go ahead and make cutbacks for the car you want, but to do it merely to tax the car you want is joyless.

Yeah that is fair enough. But if I know that each and every time I go out to my car to go for a spin in it that I'm really going to enjoy it well then I think I'd attempt to suffer the tax bill. The system is a joke though.

I also think that were I going to go to buy a 740i or whatever I'd try and build the tax into the overall price of the car and go from there. Wouldn't seem as bad to me doing it that way.

I dunno I guess I'll have to get a big engined car and see what paying the tax is like in real life, I imagine it's easier said than done tbh.

Ha, was just about to update on my banger.

My brother has tried his best to kill it and it lives on as well as ever.

He did his best to empty the tank. 560 miles done and over 1/3 left on board.

Thats great going and a first vote for Puggernomics

edit2: doh, the above add is a petrol. The 2.0 diesel is the one to go for.

Jimdagym wrote: »

166man wrote: »

Well it does actually because I'd have no problem cutting a few pints out of my week in order to have a car I have been dreaming about for years. I don't need alchohol in order to have a laugh but each to their own.

The tax rate might be crazy in this country and you're right it is money you won't enjoy, but as a huge car fan it's money that enables you to enjoy a really special car, that is a 740 or Alfa V6.

I think the point cadilac is making is that go ahead and make cutbacks for the car you want, but to do it merely to tax the car you want is joyless.

And there in lies the clear line between a true petrol head and someone with an interest in cars.

I'd happily drop money on a nice car, if it means drinking less, grand. Sure that's only fun for about three hours 'till you're locked and you get s hang over, a years tax in a big power car is a year of fun.
No trade off for me.

I'd say around €400 a year, then add taxi fair and paying into clubs it'd easily top €1000.

If I could afford it, I'd happily pay twice that for the pleasure of driving the likes of a 350Z or similar.

(I know tax is higher than €2k on a 350Z but you get the idea. )

RoverJames wrote: »

..... and you'd class yourself as a real petrol head rather than someone with just an interest in cars? Plenty of 350z are less than the 2 thou to tax too btw.

3.5l on the old tax system is the highest bracket, +€2k, no?
To be honest I don't know exactly how much my own costs for the year but that's just it, it could be €300 or it could be €500, it doesn't really matter to me.

I'm not saying I'm more of an enthusiast and someone else isn't, I just feel that if one really want something, they'll find a way to get it and if someone else thinks it's a sad way to be then they clearly don't feel as strongly as the former.

Would you not agree with the last paragraphy at least?

170bhp 2002 Toledo for under £800 Full years MOT
Huge petrol engine so tax would be big if you VRT it.
http://www.gumtree.com/p/cars-vans-motorbikes/seat-toledo-v5-sep-2002-170bhp--reduced--needs-to-go/102179858

fasttalkerchat wrote: »

And how much for tax? That's going to be the killer.

€1100 ish?

Edit: Oops, though it was the 2.8 vr.

900 ish.

Alanstrainor wrote: »

Nah, 930ish, I pay 1005 on a 2.5.

I or anyone here could buy a car for that, as we all know.
The other side of the coin is that tax has to be paid anyway and its €400 more than a 2l tax bill. That broken over quarterly payments equates to a full tank of fuel (extra).
Back to bangernomics:
http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/3348954

02 volvo V70 7 seater 2.0 for 1650
http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/2498620

01 Astra Coupe for €875, Sans-Ensiti but worth a gamble
http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/3186798

Mazda 323 GT
http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/1927138
Love these yokes. My mum has one.

That's just for speed cameras / parking

langdang wrote: »

That 323 was for sale for AAAAAGES by a dealer in Dublin. Probably due to price and being undesireable, but if this is a private seller I'd say he hasn't had it long. Just some info for anyone interested. I liked the previous version (1.8). There was someone else on here who had the 2.0 but had a pain of a time replacing the combined cat/manifold for NCT.
)

Even getting something as simple as a brake caliper is a nightmare.
Still though, great yoke given how light they are,