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So There's gonna be a protest...

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,809 ✭✭✭✭smash


    Dean0088 wrote: »
    I have two. Tesco and I do some freelance writing.

    People who can get bye in college without a job will have no trouble having their parents pay for their fees. It's the other majority which this will effect.

    Cheers though, people like you make me laugh.

    Well 3k registration is less than €58 a week spread over the year. You'd spend over twice that on a Saturday night out.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,977 ✭✭✭youcancallmeal


    I dunno its an odd situation, the government is pumping money into 3rd level education but there are very few jobs for new graduates nowadays so a lot them emigrate. In essence we are educating the best and brightest to 3rd level and then sending them off to another country which can benefit from this :confused:

    Thats a very broad generalised view in fairness


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,229 ✭✭✭Chairman Meow


    Dean0088 wrote: »
    I have two. Tesco and I do some freelance writing.

    People who can get bye in college without a job will have no trouble having their parents pay for their fees. It's the other majority which this will effect.

    Cheers though, people like you make me laugh.

    Thats some quality writing, fella. Dont give up the day job...whatever that is.


  • Registered Users Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    This same kind of thing was going on when I was in college, "Protect your fees, protect your education, protect your grant". Nobody went to the marches then, either.

    The vast majority of students have free fees, registration fees paid their parents, and either live off their parents or have a part-time job, so they don't care about the maintenance grant or the fees.

    The USI are a complete waste of space - ultra-socialist privileged kids with no sense of how the real world works. The same kind of people who end up working in SIPTU and IMPACT when they grow up.


  • Registered Users Posts: 658 ✭✭✭MIRMIR82


    Thats some quality writing, fella. Dont give up the day job...whatever that is.

    -Its in Tescos:D


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  • Registered Users Posts: 9,770 ✭✭✭Bottle_of_Smoke


    F*ck clean off. Lack of fees mainly just benefits the middle classes.

    I say this as a student paying around 3500 GBP a year in fees. Or at least will be when I graduate and start paying them back.

    Wonder how many people show up to the protest in designer clothes and go drinking afterwards.

    And of course the obligatory unoriginal twat who shows up with a ''careful now'' placard.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,695 ✭✭✭StupidLikeAFox


    steve06 wrote: »
    Well 3k registration is less than €58 a week spread over the year. You'd spend over twice that on a Saturday night out.

    You'd spend over €120 quid on a saturday night? Thats my weekly wage buddy! Don't assume that just because you can, so can everyone else

    Anyway, bring on the protest. Whether it works or not its good that we have an opportunity to display some of the anger being felt, as part of a sizeable group.

    A lot of our current leaders (Gilmore etc) were great protestors in their day and it'll be good to see the youth come out in force for this one. Granted there are elements who are genuinely pissed off and there will be some who are looking forward to the free tshirt and day out in dublin, but there will thousands there for definite!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,809 ✭✭✭✭smash


    Wonder how many people show up to the protest in designer clothes and go drinking afterwards.
    You're assuming they'll turn up at all instead of going straight to the pub in the first place.
    ColHol wrote: »
    You'd spend over €120 quid on a saturday night? Thats my weekly wage buddy! Don't assume that just because you can, so can everyone else
    If you have a job, no mortgage and minimal bills then you can afford to put away €58 a week!
    ColHol wrote: »
    Anyway, bring on the protest. Whether it works or not its good that we have an opportunity to display some of the anger being felt, as part of a sizeable group.
    There are bigger groups of people out there who are being more screwed than students are!
    ColHol wrote: »
    A lot of our current leaders (Gilmore etc) were great protestors in their day and it'll be good to see the youth come out in force for this one.
    Gilmore is a tool though.
    ColHol wrote: »
    Granted there are elements who are genuinely pissed off and there will be some who are looking forward to the free tshirt and day out in dublin, but there will thousands there for definite!
    Point proven that it's just a joke to most of the people who will turn up.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 960 ✭✭✭Harekin


    Da Bounca wrote: »
    The fees are more than adequate as is.
    There isn't a justifiable reason to increase them. Also, given the state of the country currently, it's ****in outrageous to suggest such an increase.

    Pretty sure the reason the fees are being increased is BECAUSE the Government can no longer afford to subsidise education so heavily.



    Anyways since when has 3rd Level Education been a right of ever person? Pretty sure no country in the world has 3rd Level education as a right of every person.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,440 ✭✭✭The Aussie


    Dean0088 wrote: »
    to bring back in huge fees for students is ridiculous. on a plane to Canada or Australia.

    (excuse the fact im Australian here for a moment but)
    Am i the only person here who thinks 3rd level education should not benefit other nations with a skilled workforce and leave the Irish tax payer (me included) with the bill, this now skilled/trained workforce is bettering another country, i say scrap the gravy train this country just cant afford, or is it just me???


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,479 ✭✭✭Notorious97


    The Aussie wrote: »
    (excuse the fact im Australian here for a moment but)
    Am i the only person here who thinks 3rd level education should not benefit other nations with a skilled workforce and leave the Irish tax payer (me included) with the bill, this now skilled/trained workforce is bettering another country, i say scrap the gravy train this country just cant afford, or is it just me???

    If we cannot afford to pay 3rd level fees for students thats another fact of the harsh reality facing us. Everybody is going to feel it, and have to accept it if they wish to continue living in this country. Like you said if we cannot afford it then we have to scrap it. December is going to be a horrible month, the budget will be harsh unfortunately but i believe nobody is going to escape paying for this.

    It sucks that some families will struggle to pay 3rd level fees, but alot of families will struggle to pay for other bills too. Its just a fact of life unfortunately and we can thank FF for it. Cheers Bertie & Cowen, cu*ts


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 12,333 ✭✭✭✭JONJO THE MISER


    We need hundreds of thousands to march and strike arround the country.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,551 Mod ✭✭✭✭SeaFields


    The Aussie wrote: »
    Am i the only person here who thinks 3rd level education should not benefit other nations with a skilled workforce and leave the Irish tax payer (me included) with the bill, this now skilled/trained workforce is bettering another country, i say scrap the gravy train this country just cant afford, or is it just me???

    I certainly has to be considered. The country continues to invest in third level education, in the form of free fees, but it cannot provide the graduates with appropriate employment opportunities afterwards (by proxy - it is unable to provide an economy which grows and therefore the businesses which usually employ graduates are not in a position to do so).

    It must also be considered that the quality of third level education is going to suffer and smaller budgets have to be stretched even further. I have seen this from the inside, having been a third level researcher. Our well educated workforce may not be as well educated as we like to believe.

    It is debate that may well happen. The greens assume that it is off the table with their program for government but I don't think anything can be off the table these days.


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