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Dublin school cancels workshop on homophobic bullying, saying “both sides should be r

  • 27-01-2015 6:00pm
    #1
    RobYourBuilder
    Registered Users Posts: 1,541 ✭✭✭RobYourBuilder


    Dublin school cancels workshop on homophobic bullying, saying “both sides should be represented”
    A SECONDARY SCHOOL in Dublin cancelled a workshop on homophobic bullying just half an hour before it was due to go ahead today, reportedly saying that “both sides should be represented”.

    Coláiste Eoin in Stillorgan was due to host the free workshop by ShoutOut, a voluntary organisation which runs classes on bullying around the country, starting at 11am.

    The workshop focuses on encouraging students not to discriminate against LGBT people.

    Howver when the group of volunteers arrived at the school, they were told that the event had been cancelled.

    Declan Meehan, the schools co-ordinator for ShoutOut, said that the group was originally not given any explanation, before an unidentified person told them that the Board of Management had decided that “both sides of the argument should be represented”.

    “My colleagues were baffled by this and questioned what he meant, but it wasn’t forthcoming”.

    Meehan said that workshop had been booked several months ago and the cancellation was “out of the blue”.

    “We’ve been out at Colaiste Eoin before back in 2012 and 2013,” he toldTheJournal.ie. ”It was actually the first school we ever did a workshop in and they’ve always been very hospitable to us.”

    It is the first time that the group has ever had a school cancel.

    “We’ve been running for about two years and we do between three and four workshops a week. We’ve been in all kinds of schools – Church-run, non-denominational, mixed, same-sex. We’ve never had anything like this before”.

    A person who answered the phone at the school said that the principal “doesn’t want to comment” on what happened.

    She said that the incident will be “going to the Board of Management” but did not elaborate on what exactly this meant.

    http://www.thejournal.ie/colaiste-eoin-stillorgan-homophobia-workshop-1905500-Jan2015/

    "Both sides of the argument"? I don't think that there's an argument to be made for the bullying of LGBT students. Or the bullying of any student for that matter. This is crazy stuff.


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  • #2
    errlloyd
    Registered Users Posts: 12,598 ✭✭✭✭errlloyd


    Know the guys who run the workshops, they were initially very unwilling to name the school. I'm glad they did, this sort of thing actually affects where i would consider sending my kids, and Colaiste Eoin was previously right at the top.


  • #3
    Gatling
    Registered Users Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    So what the bully a need to be officially represented ,

    Seriously idiotic stuff
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  • #4
    eviltwin
    Registered Users Posts: 17,495 ✭✭✭✭eviltwin


    How can there be two sides to bullying, homophobic or of any other kind?


  • #5
    Generic Dreadhead
    Registered Users Posts: 10,870 ✭✭✭✭Generic Dreadhead


    What absolute dross


  • #6
    jobbridge4life
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,759 ✭✭✭jobbridge4life


    Its not bullying to tell kids that they are intrinsically disordered, a perversion of Gods plan for humankind and doomed to eternal hell-fire unless they live a life of celibacy. It is religious freedom.


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  • #7
    NormalBob Ubiquitypants
    Closed Accounts Posts: 297 ✭✭NormalBob Ubiquitypants


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZ4LuE1U3Ks


  • #8
    Donkey Oaty
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,533 ✭✭✭Donkey Oaty


    Had a look at their website, but it seems to be in some kind of incomprehensible foreign language, with little line things over some of the words.

    http://www.eoiniosagain.ie/eoin/


  • #9
    Scuid Mhór
    Registered Users Posts: 2,326 ✭✭✭Scuid Mhór


    Donkey Oaty wrote: »
    Had a look at their website, but it seems to be in some kind of incomprehensible foreign language, with little line things over some of the words.

    http://www.eoiniosagain.ie/eoin/

    That's just the old Irish language man, perfectly explains such a bafflingly conservative stance.


  • #10
    jmayo
    Registered Users Posts: 13,078 ✭✭✭✭jmayo


    RobYourBuilder wrote: »
    Dublin school cancels workshop on homophobic bullying, saying “both sides should be represented”



    http://www.thejournal.ie/colaiste-eoin-stillorgan-homophobia-workshop-1905500-Jan2015/

    "Both sides of the argument"? I don't think that there's an argument to be made for the bullying of LGBT students. Or the bullying of any student for that matter. This is crazy stuff.

    That reminds me of the Dara O'Brian sketch where he talks about how TV programs have a scientist on discussing a scientific topic and to give "balance" they have someoe who hasn't a clue but believes in fairies or some such.

    Sorry poor chjoice of phrasing considering the thread discussion. :o


  • #11
    RobYourBuilder
    Registered Users Posts: 1,541 ✭✭✭RobYourBuilder


    Donkey Oaty wrote: »
    Had a look at their website, but it seems to be in some kind of incomprehensible foreign language, with little line things over some of the words.

    http://www.eoiniosagain.ie/eoin/

    It's a Gaelscoil.


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  • #12
    errlloyd
    Registered Users Posts: 12,598 ✭✭✭✭errlloyd


    jmayo wrote: »
    That reminds me of the Dara O'Brian sketch where he talks about how TV programs have a scientist on discussing a scientific topic and to give "balance" they have someoe who hasn't a clue but believes in fairies or some such.

    Sorry poor chjoice of phrasing considering the thread discussion. :o

    Or hilariously appropriate given where Dara O Brian went to school


  • #13
    Saipanne
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,882 ✭✭✭Saipanne


    I think fools like this should be given a spot to speak. It will only do damage to their own position, I mean, can you imagine trying to justify bullying in a coherent argument? They'd look like the fools they are.


  • #14
    Donkey Oaty
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,533 ✭✭✭Donkey Oaty


    Fact of the day: Coláiste Eoin has the same motto ("Fiat Justitia") as the British Royal Air Force and the Eastern Caribbean Supreme Court.

    Maybe we shouldn't mess with these guys.


  • #15
    VinLieger
    Registered Users Posts: 17,635 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    Expect Iona parachuting in to provide the "other side"


  • #16
    jmayo
    Registered Users Posts: 13,078 ✭✭✭✭jmayo


    errlloyd wrote: »
    Or hilariously appropriate given where Dara O Brian went to school

    Oh I forgot he went to gaelscoil.
    I always thought he went to Pres in Bray or some such.

    I wonder will he include this issue in his next stage show. ;)


  • #17
    K4t
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,362 ✭✭✭K4t


    This is what happens when you start inventing titles like "homophobic bullying" instead of simply BULLYING.

    If you want to teach people about homophobia then fair enough but you can see an argument for both sides being represented, which is what I think is happening here.


  • #18
    Links234
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,944 ✭✭✭✭Links234


    This "Both sides of the debate should get equal representation" bollocks needs to die immediately. It's the reason why diseases like measles and the like are on the rise in the US, because anti-vaccination idiots are allowed to air their bollocks, or why people in the states have seriously poor knowledge about evolution or climate change, or any number of other issues.


  • #19
    Gatling
    Registered Users Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Donkey Oaty wrote: »
    Fact of the day: Coláiste Eoin has the same motto ("Fiat Justitia") as the British Royal Air Force and the

    No it doesn't

    Per Ardua ad Astra
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  • #20
    Links234
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,944 ✭✭✭✭Links234


    jmayo wrote: »
    That reminds me of the Dara O'Brian sketch where he talks about how TV programs have a scientist on discussing a scientific topic and to give "balance" they have someoe who hasn't a clue but believes in fairies or some such.

    Sorry poor chjoice of phrasing considering the thread discussion. :o

    Get in the feckin' sack :pac:


  • #21
    eviltwin
    Registered Users Posts: 17,495 ✭✭✭✭eviltwin


    K4t wrote: »
    This is what happens when you start inventing titles like "homophobic bullying" instead of simply BULLYING.

    If you want to teach people about homophobia then fair enough but you can see an argument for both sides being represented, which is what I think is happening here.

    What argument could there be? Who would represent the other side?


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  • #22
    Donkey Oaty
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,533 ✭✭✭Donkey Oaty


    Gatling wrote: »
    No it doesn't

    Per Ardua ad Astra

    Sorry, it's the RAF Police I meant.


  • #23
    hatrickpatrick
    Registered Users Posts: 17,797 ✭✭✭✭hatrickpatrick


    An anti-racism workshop has been cancelled because "both sides should be represented".

    Take in how utterly ludicrous that sentence sounded and ask why the hell homophobia should be treated any differently.

    This country is ridiculous.


  • #24
    Gatling
    Registered Users Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    eviltwin wrote: »
    What argument could there be? Who would represent the other side?

    John waters
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  • #25
    GLaDOS
    Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 23,197 Mod ✭✭✭✭GLaDOS


    Bear in mind this isn't a debate, it's an anti-bullying workshop. There's no need for "another side".

    Cake, and grief counseling, will be available at the conclusion of the test



  • #26
    o1s1n
    Registered Users Posts: 34,367 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    Scuid Mhór wrote: »
    That's just the old Irish language man, perfectly explains such a bafflingly conservative stance.
    RobYourBuilder wrote: »
    It's a Gaelscoil.

    Is it just me or are peoples sarcasm detectors breaking down at a much higher rate lately?


  • #27
    K4t
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,362 ✭✭✭K4t


    Links234 wrote: »
    This "Both sides of the debate should get equal representation" bollocks needs to die immediately.
    And if a homophobia bullying workshop focusing on discrimination against those who hold homophobic views was scheduled to visit your school, would you not be annoyed at the lack of equal representation?


  • #28
    Riskymove
    Registered Users Posts: 10,885 ✭✭✭✭Riskymove


    This has to be one of the most ridiculous things I ever heard

    This was a workshop for kids on why they shouldn't bully people not some debate for the electorate or political discussion

    whatever next......


  • #29
    Donkey Oaty
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,533 ✭✭✭Donkey Oaty


    I'm inclined to agree with the school's stance here, assuming they have had Satan adequately represented in RE and also some pro-smoking/drinking/drugs material distributed during sports lessons.


  • #30
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users Posts: 25,395 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    jobbridge4life wrote: »
    Its not bullying to tell kids that they are intrinsically disordered, a perversion of Gods plan for humankind and doomed to eternal hell-fire unless they live a life of celibacy. It is religious freedom.

    It's also utter bolloxollogy.


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  • #31
    Riskymove
    Registered Users Posts: 10,885 ✭✭✭✭Riskymove


    Donkey Oaty wrote: »
    I'm inclined to agree with the school's stance here, assuming they have had Satan adequately represented in RE and also some pro-smoking/drinking/drugs material distributed during sports lessons.

    and creationism taught in science class!!


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