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  • 17-12-2014 9:43pm
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    [Deleted User]
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    Hi

    So Ive been building a new App lately for a new company Im setting up, and the front end is complete but we need a server App built and Ive been let down by the company that was going to do it, they dont want to take it on anymore. So I have to find someone who can build it flawlessly, its quite a lot of work but it has to be error free, as Ive been told bugs can ruin these if they aren't ironed out properly. So needs to be someone who is an expert in this sort of thing with a good track record.

    Theres a budget set aside to pay for it, possibly share deal also.

    Recommendations are welcome!


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    srsly78
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    Recommend you say what the budget is :)


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    [Deleted User]
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    srsly78 wrote: »
    Recommend you say what the budget is :)

    Im thinking along the lines of 5K plus 5% of the company. I hope that doesn't upset anyone, I know it probably will :D


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    srsly78
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    Ok cool. Now I recommend you be a tiny bit more specific with your requirements please :pac:

    What does "app" refer to exactly? Is it something to with mobile devices possibly? Does it run on desktops? What do you mean by "flawlessly"? Do you realise this would offend god? Do you plan to never make any changes in the future since it is perfection? What will happen when something apart from the perfect part breaks?

    You want REST web services thinamajig right?


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    We are developing it for iPad and iPhone. We are taking a live feed of data sending it to the server app which send its to our app. From what the technical partner in the company has told me this process is a lot of small stuff, but its very important that its bug free, so it will take a lot of diligence, so thats what I mean about flawless.

    Sorry I can't go more detailed for now, my partner was handling this and our guy has fallen through last minute so Im seeing what I can find in the meantime. If there was some interest you would talk to him after an NDA and go through it in more detail.


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    The Corinthian
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    Ive been let down by the company that was going to do it, they dont want to take it on anymore.
    I think you may need to address this, even for yourself; why did they decide to decline the work?

    Of course, it could be due to internal resource reasons, too much work already in their pipeline or similar, in which case I would not worry about it. However there are reasons why they may have chosen not to pass on the project - insufficient budget for the amount of work, issues working with the client, and so on.

    If so, I'd recommend you examine and seek a solution to such issues as otherwise you'll find it difficult to get another development consultancy to take on the work, or worse still get one that does take it on and the reasons foreseen by the first one will come and bite everyone on the posterior before long.
    So I have to find someone who can build it flawlessly, its quite a lot of work but it has to be error free, as Ive been told bugs can ruin these if they aren't ironed out properly.
    Unless it's Hello World, it's pretty much impossible to guarantee a flawless application - essentially you're dealing with risk management where it comes to this area.

    What can be done is that you invest a significant proportion of the budget in testing, QA and also put in place a SLA that will quickly catch and deal with any residual issues that are discovered in the first 12 to 18 months of going live.

    It won't guarantee a flawless application, but it will achieve one where the probability of a flaw, particularly a critical flaw, will become insignificant.


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    Yeah cheers for that, makes sense on the testing.

    Well it was a matter of too much work in the pipeline for the people we were using. And also a lack of enthusiasm for this particular type of work for them. The testing part I believe is quite time consuming and mundane compared to the design side. We were also doing it in Greece where labour cost is a lot lower, so were paying market rates for there so that wasn't a problem. It was a shame because the front end is a really top notch job


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    The Corinthian
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    Well it was a matter of too much work in the pipeline for the people we were using. And also a lack of enthusiasm for this particular type of work for them.
    In my experience, you're better off using a separate, specialized, firm for QA.
    The testing part I believe is quite time consuming and mundane compared to the design side. We were also doing it in Greece where labour cost is a lot lower, so were paying market rates for there so that wasn't a problem.
    Documentation is very important when outsourcing to club med. The bureaucratic nature of countries like Greece, Italy and Spain means that you'll run into trouble the moment something has been left out of a spec or is legally open to interpretation, unless you've built up a personal relationship with them first.
    It was a shame because the front end is a really top notch job
    Ah... hybrid app.


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    The Corinthian wrote: »
    In my experience, you're better off using a separate, specialized, firm for QA.

    Documentation is very important when outsourcing to club med. The bureaucratic nature of countries like Greece, Italy and Spain means that you'll run into trouble the moment something has been left out of a spec or is legally open to interpretation, unless you've built up a personal relationship with them first.

    Ah... hybrid app.

    Yeah my partner is Greek and had the relationship with them so that wasn't an issue. Your right about the specialised firm for this, thats why I said flawless as I realise its important they really know what they are at.


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    rat_race
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    Yeah my partner is Greek and had the relationship with them so that wasn't an issue. Your right about the specialised firm for this, thats why I said flawless as I realise its important they really know what they are at.

    All this really depends on the system you require. You've given very little details (understandably).

    The previous replies are correct in saying that there is no such thing as a "flawless" system. However, there's no reason it cannot come pretty close first time, if the person/people developing it is/are experienced and are of high standards.

    Don't get overwhelmed by suggestions of separate QA teams, etc., etc. I get a feeling it is totally unnecessary, and possibly counter-productive, for what you're looking for.

    I sent you a PM. Have a read and get back to me and I'll give you some honest/accurate advice.


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    The Corinthian
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    rat_race wrote: »
    Don't get overwhelmed by suggestions of separate QA teams, etc., etc. I get a feeling it is totally unnecessary, and possibly counter-productive, for what you're looking for.
    How would it be counterproductive?


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    ChRoMe
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    Thread is meaningless without some sort of functional specification. Also 5 grand is going to buy two weeks of someone's time, max.


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