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lighning returns

  • 01-09-2012 2:22pm
    #1
    Arawn
    Registered Users Posts: 3,158 ✭✭✭


    The next ff was announced. The third in ff13 series. Not sure about this. 13 was ****. 13-2 was much better. Which way will the next installment go?


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  • #2
    Retr0gamer
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 50,778 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    I liked FF13 a lot despite the flaws. I think Square are learning from their mistakes and this one will be good.
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  • #3
    snausages
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,225 ✭✭✭snausages


    Impossible to say. The announcement videos they've released are pretty cringey though if you've seen them.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cj66f6Pvyuk


    It's like someone has just died or something.


  • #4
    Earthday
    Registered Users Posts: 45 ✭Earthday


    They must be nuts about lighting.


  • #5
    Alactric
    Registered Users Posts: 192 ✭✭Alactric


    Earthday wrote: »
    They must be nuts about lighting.

    Meh, I've rounded on her. I slated the game for years before actually mustering the strength to get to Gran Pulse. And you know what, the game was fine in the end. Not great or grand or brilliant, but decent. The most vehement criticism came in the immediate months post release. It's THE standard opinion degradation formula.

    1: Game comes out to much hype, Reviews are enthusiastic, but obviously don't match said hype.
    2: Fans go ape**** about said reviews, commit seppuku on the games behalf.
    3: Fans actually play the damn game, find themselves agreeing with the the reviews of contention.
    4: 6 months later, the games flaws are perfectly self evident and are being pointed to by the freaking developers of the game.
    5: Fans act like the brand was made of human feces to begin with and pretend they didn't defend it.

    This exact same **** has been happening since 7. And was 7, 8, 9, 10, 12 the worse for it? No. People can scream all day. A competent game like 13, does not automatically become ****, for peoples own need to necessitate melodrama. I'm sure Lightning Returns, will at least be a nice change of pace like XIII-2 if nothing else.


  • #6
    snausages
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,225 ✭✭✭snausages


    I really don't think there was anything fine about XIII. It had all the makings of a great RPG but was structured so badly that all that was good about it got lost. You know you have a problem when people are telling you you need to play FFXIII for 20 hours until you get to the good bit. And even then the good bit isn't so good. After 20 hours of running through tubes they throw you into a massive free-roaming area and give you about 70 hunts to do all at once. X was linear but it spaced out its side-diversions. XII was non-linear and had the hunts as an extra challenge throughout the entire game. In XIII the hunts are just another grind crammed right in at the end. All that lush green scenery gets dull after a few hours. And it's the only side-quest that XIII has.

    It's by no means the worst RPG ever as some would have you believe but it's definitely the weakest out of all the 3D FFs. A 6/10 game at best.


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  • #7
    Alactric
    Registered Users Posts: 192 ✭✭Alactric


    snausages wrote: »
    A 6/10 game at best.

    Which is why I said it was decent? :confused:


  • #8
    snausages
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,225 ✭✭✭snausages


    Alactric wrote: »
    Which is why I said it was decent? :confused:

    Well I said at best. I really didn't enjoy any part of XIII besides chapter 12 and the opening few scenes when it was still relatively fresh. I just can't call a game like XIII 'fine' when playing through it feels like such a chore. It's the only FF I've ever played where it took me over a year to get through it. Usually I get really involved with the games but XIII just required too much effort to enjoy.


  • #9
    ancapailldorcha
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 37,066 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    I really hope they keep Toriyama's role to a minimum this time. It was a bit depressing to see FFXIII's flaws get ironed out only for the story to turn into complete tripe.

    We sat again for an hour and a half discussing maps and figures and always getting back to that most damnable creation of the perverted ingenuity of man - the County of Tyrone.

    H. H. Asquith



  • #10
    Retr0gamer
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    The way people go on about FF13 you'd swear it was Legend of Dragoon.
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  • #11
    ancapailldorcha
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 37,066 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    As if there weren't enough similarities, FFXIII getting it's own Crisis Core as well.

    We sat again for an hour and a half discussing maps and figures and always getting back to that most damnable creation of the perverted ingenuity of man - the County of Tyrone.

    H. H. Asquith



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  • #12
    Alactric
    Registered Users Posts: 192 ✭✭Alactric


    Fresh info from Famitsu. Courtesy of Dtoid:

    "The latest Famitsu uncovers a bunch of tidbits on the game's battle system. Lightning runs solo in battle, without a party! She's free to move around during battle, and in them commands won't be selected. Instead, players will select abilities assigned to controller buttons. Battles are 'close to action' and have an ATB gauge.

    The world of Lightning Returns was also teased. You'll play against a constantly running clock, shown everywhere in the world. One in-game day works out to be one to two hours of real time, and actions you take in the game will increase or decrease time. Doing things like killing enemies and saving people can increase or decrease the life of the world. It seems that the game is made to be played multiple times.

    Finally, the game has just one ending, and it's supposed to be a happy one. Famitsu says that Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy is 30 percent complete as of now"

    ...Some of that stuff sounds just plain crazy. No party? No Paradigm Shift? Direct Control? Hotkeys? And that's just the gameplay. Premise sounds bananas too. So what do you think? Are they totally throwing the baby out of the bathwater? Or is that precisely what people want from FF?

    To me, it honestly sounds a bit Dragon Age 2. So I'm very intrigued, but very wary atm.


  • #13
    Retr0gamer
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    Sounds like Crisis Core to me. Thought the battle system in CC sucked so apprehensive :/
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  • #14
    snausages
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,225 ✭✭✭snausages


    Crisis Core's combat would have been fine if it weren't for the retarded slots thing popping up constantly and the invisible random encounters every 3 feet. Type-0 has the same type of combat but it plays really well, I think it's a good idea to try something other than the paradigm system for a change.


  • #15
    ancapailldorcha
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 37,066 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    Trailer:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6EGmVT9_cTo

    We sat again for an hour and a half discussing maps and figures and always getting back to that most damnable creation of the perverted ingenuity of man - the County of Tyrone.

    H. H. Asquith



  • #16
    ancapailldorcha
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 37,066 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    As if there weren't enough similarities to FFVII:

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    We sat again for an hour and a half discussing maps and figures and always getting back to that most damnable creation of the perverted ingenuity of man - the County of Tyrone.

    H. H. Asquith



  • #17
    Sephiroth_dude
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 79,964 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sephiroth_dude


    Retr0gamer wrote: »
    The way people go on about FF13 you'd swear it was Legend of Dragoon.

    LOL :D


  • #18
    Retr0gamer
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 50,778 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    The more I read hands on previews of this the more it's sounding like a great game. Jeremy Parish really liked it. I'll definitely be picking this up.
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  • #19
    ancapailldorcha
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 37,066 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    Retr0gamer wrote: »
    The more I read hands on previews of this the more it's sounding like a great game. Jeremy Parish really liked it. I'll definitely be picking this up.

    That'll be good enough for me. Might even pre-order it. Shame it's so far away.

    We sat again for an hour and a half discussing maps and figures and always getting back to that most damnable creation of the perverted ingenuity of man - the County of Tyrone.

    H. H. Asquith



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