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need advice on rifle

  • 08-09-2014 12:50am
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    Registered Users Posts: 2


    Hey all. i need some help i am a noob to the gun/shooting/hunting haha. hopefully not for to long!! Well if been looking at a Merlin xt.22 I cant post the link because im a noob here but you can find it on www. rrm .ie (range river mountain) I live in Ireland and will be applying for my license soon after I get into a gun club. i want to know what i can and can't shot with it and dumb questing but if it's a .22lr or medium or what!! I don't know much about guns/rifles or shooting hopefully not for long! so any and all help would be nice :D
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  • Registered Users Posts: 310 ✭✭stoeger


    22lr . Rabbits gray crow magpie


  • Registered Users Posts: 2 Ryan_95


    thanks man! :) it was a pretty basic question i know haha. I still have a good bit of time to pick a good rifle would you have any reclamations? I was thinking I should look around a bit more and see what other people think.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 28,420 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cass


    Most rimfires have a range of between 0 - 125 yards, effective range. Their actual range is much longer. Centrefire rifles, depending on shooter ability have mush greater effective ranges, and hence need A LOT more experience to handle. Apart from the firearm you need to be aware of your environment, backstop (where the bullet will finish) shot placement, etc. Its not quite as easy as point and pull the trigger.

    The best selling and most popular starter rifle is the CZ .22lr.
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    Th setup above would cost, depending on scope choice, about €800 new or between €300 - €550 second hand. They are a fantastic gun, and if you asked i would say about 70% of rifle shooter either had one or have one.

    Depending on your budget you could look at a higher model such as Anschutz.

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    The 1417, 1710 are popular but cost twice/three times the price of the CZ. Prices start around €850 and go upward. Second hand you could pick one up for between €550 - €1,000. They are more accurate than a CZ but at 50 meters (the range most competitions are shot at) there is little difference with the Anschutz edging it over the CZ.

    To find out which rifle you want or more importantly which suits your intended purpose then i would suggest visiting a few rifle ranges, and seeing what others are using, and what they have, use it for, how it works, how effective it is, cost, etc. Most ranges would welcome you, and freely show you around. Simply ring before traveling as some ranges need prior notification before you can turn up.
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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,114 ✭✭✭Zxthinger


    If it's for general vermin and you don't intend specialising in rabbits only and are not bothered forgoing the 22lr's ability to be silenced and you would like better range and more killing power then you could pick up a 17hmr.
    It's a much more accurate round than a 22lr but easily twice the price. It will let allow you to take the odd fox and crows and such up to 200-250yatds in moderate to light winds with practice.

    A cheaper forrunner of this is the 22mag. It's heavy hitting rounds hold poor accuracy due to it's muzzle velocity which starts to suffer drag effects immediately( see transonic turbulence effects)
    But a 22mag or sometimes knows a 22wmr will take foxes out to 125yards with reasonable dependability but it's no tack driver.

    If I was starting out I see if I could get a few trial runs at a range, 22lr us popular and cheap but semi autos don't like subsonic or hypervelocity stuff so if you like expiermemting with different types of ammo them go fir a bolt action.
    The 17hmr and 22wmr will be hard to find in semi auto configuration. I don't even think that factory offerings list a s/a 17hmr tbh but you sure can get the 22mag but it's going to harder to licence.

    My money for a general little hunting rifle is on the 17hmr


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