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Guys do you mind me asking is all you tackle on the skeptics forum ghosts and soothsayers i started a bigfoot thread and you dont seem able to tackle it

I'm not sure there is a "correct" way to do something totally pointless.

Dave! wrote: »

Me and my mates all saw a 'shape shifter' (must have seen it originally in a cartoon or somethin) in the top window of the corner house of our estate, when we were younger.

We also saw a ghost's face in the window of my mate's shed

Except we didn't at all, we were just imaginative kids

We also did an ouija board and it kept moving and scared the sh*t out of us! But it turned out it was one of the lads moving it the whole time.

Moral of the story: don't take what kids say as gospel. They're even less discerning than adults when it comes to determining whether something is 'paranormal' or not.

I agree with what you're saying about thinking you saw something 'paranormal' as a child, before realising it was just your imagination getting the better of you. That has happened to me many times.

Agreed RE: that feckin' ouija board and people moving the glass/planchette as well. Ditto for 'table tipping' and all that other kooky crap.

There have been things I've seen as a child and teenager that I knew weren't the product of my imagination though. I've gone over the incidents in my head dozens and dozens of times since to try to account for their occurrence, but I haven't found a satisfactory (IMO) explanation yet. Of course, that's my own subjective body of experiences and viewpoint, but I'm just trying to illustrate what I believe to be a dichotomy of imagination vs. reality and being able to distinguish one from the other...

Dave! wrote: »

And feeling down/depressed = not paranormal

Yes, that is physiological...

As for hauntings and ghosts im not convinced of their reality however theres a interesting theory that areas with a high level natural infrasound will produce the uncomfortable feeling ascoiated with haunted places.

MrMojoRisin wrote: »

Yeah. You need to see the things for yourself really.



I read and heard about that before and it seems perfectly reasonable.

I've never believed that an uncomfortable 'feeling' about a place is enough to label it 'haunted'. It all comes down to what you see directly in front of you with your two eyes. If it's still there more than ten seconds later, that helps.

And catching it on camera is a definite bonus.

Oryx wrote: »

@porte, re your original question. The traditional way to hold a seance was in a darkened room, preferably with only a low, red light source. Seances were generally led by a medium, but if you dont have one any ol person should do. Record the whole session. Have props in the room such as stacked coins, and for some reason, the old skool seancers felt a trumpet was obligatory? You sit in the dark, hold hands, or not, and ask questions of 'whoever' is there. And sit and wait to see what happens. And wait. And wait. If youre filming it for posterity or living tv, youll need one hysterical female present, of course.

I know Im being a bit daft above, I think you can tell how I feel about seances, but generally that is the traditional way of doing such things (minus any hysterical women). I dont agree with any of it, I think its a nonsense way to go about it, and I also think it engenders fear, which is never good.

I think it'd be a great idea if there were a couple of 'fright nights' held in one of Ireland's accessible and supposedly 'most haunted' locations over the summer. Recreate all these old skool parlour tricks like dimly-lit seances with a feckin' trumpet :pac:, etc, a spot of table tipping, and whatever else anyone can think of (my mind is barren at the mo'). Featuring, say, no more than 15 participants present each time. Each fright night could be recorded on camera (like a proper episode) and then uploaded to YouTube, or whatever.

In order to prevent any hysterical idiots and/or raucous messers (although, yes, it's essentially all in the spirit - hee, hee - of fun) applying for a place on each of the fright nights, they should be required to complete a short and intelligently-formed questionaire beforehand, or something. Well, most of the boardsies knocking around here should be interested in it, and most are grand.

Yeah, so 'Victorian Fright Night', or something. There could even be an option to attend in fancy dress.

Either way, the whole thing should be intended to be fun...

alternate explainations for a lot of paranormal activity can be covered by infrasound (apparitions, seeing things in the corner of the eye, various sounds - google vic tandy) high electromagnetic radiation (creepy feelings, feeling sick etc) and ionispheric ducting (electronic voice phenomena).

steddyeddy wrote: »

As for hauntings and ghosts im not convinced of their reality however theres a interesting theory that areas with a high level natural infrasound will produce the uncomfortable feeling ascoiated with haunted places.

Should add i have no direct work with infrasound cant take credit for that

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