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Hard Knocks

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    #152
    BaronVon
    Registered Users Posts: 1,646 ✭✭✭BaronVon


    Episode 4

    "You're not good enough to be an asshole!" :D


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    #153
    HigginsJ
    Registered Users Posts: 7,317 ✭✭✭HigginsJ


    Channel 4 will be showing Hard Knocks at 0.55am on the 3rd of September.


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    #154
    Arrow in the Knee
    Registered Users Posts: 956 ✭✭✭Arrow in the Knee


    Which franchise is Hard Knocks following this year?


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    #155
    jack presley
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,687 ✭✭✭✭jack presley


    Arrow in the Knee wrote: »
    Which franchise is Hard Knocks following this year?

    Cleveland I think.


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    #156
    nasty_crash
    Registered Users Posts: 950 ✭✭✭nasty_crash


    no official decision yet but cleveland are the favourites to do it! Although rumors are that they dont really want it because of the manziel out of rehab storyline - Texans are also meant to be considering going for it!

    Eligible teams - Bucs, Browns, Giants, Jags, Rams, Redskins, Texans, Titans & Vikings


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    #157
    Guffy
    Registered Users Posts: 8,033 ✭✭✭Guffy


    nasty_crash wrote: »
    no official decision yet but cleveland are the favourites to do it! Although rumors are that they dont really want it because of the manziel out of rehab storyline - Texans are also meant to be considering going for it!

    Eligible teams - Bucs, Browns, Giants, Jags, Rams, Redskins, Texans, Titans & Vikings
    do any teams want it?


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    #158
    nasty_crash
    Registered Users Posts: 950 ✭✭✭nasty_crash


    Texans are the only ones i have heard that might want it....


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    #159
    helimachoptor
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 21,640 Mod ✭✭✭✭helimachoptor


    could see it being forced on the titans

    New QB
    DGB
    Orakpo
    Dick Le Beau

    We're probably a bit boring though


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    #160
    Leslie91
    Registered Users Posts: 4,017 ✭✭✭Leslie91


    nasty_crash wrote: »
    no official decision yet but cleveland are the favourites to do it! Although rumors are that they dont really want it because of the manziel out of rehab storyline - Texans are also meant to be considering going for it!

    Eligible teams - Bucs, Browns, Giants, Jags, Rams, Redskins, Texans, Titans & Vikings

    What does eligible mean?... I guess if you have already been featured on it then you can get out of it but there are loads of teams not on that 'eligible' list that have never been featured.


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    #161
    Adamcp898
    Registered Users Posts: 5,469 ✭✭✭Adamcp898


    Leslie91 wrote: »
    What does eligible mean?... I guess if you have already been featured on it then you can get out of it but there are loads of teams not on that 'eligible' list that have never been featured.

    Basically the show was/is dying and the last two years in particular it was tough to get a team to actually do the show for HBO and so the NFL introduced rules to make it that some team has to do it every year.

    You can get out of it though if you fall under the following headings
    Under new rules implemented by the NFL last year, teams can avoid Hard Knocks if they fall under any of three exemptions: 1) A first-year head coach is in place; 2) A playoff berth in the past two seasons; 3) A Hard Knocks appearance in the past 10 years.

    But you can still volunteer afaik if you want to do it.


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    #162
    Realt Dearg Sec
    Registered Users Posts: 10,822 ✭✭✭✭Realt Dearg Sec


    Adamcp898 wrote: »
    Basically the show was/is dying and the last two years in particular it was tough to get a team to actually do the show for HBO and so the NFL introduced rules to make it that some team has to do it every year.

    You can get out of it though if you fall under the following headings



    But you can still volunteer afaik if you want to do it.

    It's a shame it's dying, but realistically,you're probably right. Most teams, the big drama is the exact same every year, so we don't need to see it reiterated every year (rookies, will they or won't they make the roster...). You get characters who can make a difference (Rex Ryan, Chad Ochocinco), but if a team lacks someone like that it falls a bit flat after a few seasons of it. The Falcons had basically nobody who I really gave a damn about. Matt Ryan is more of a walking toothpaste commercial than a human with a personality and flaws. He could bore rust off a gate.


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    #163
    jack presley
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    Last season's was definitely the least interesting it's ever been.


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    #164
    slimpickens
    Registered Users Posts: 146 ✭✭slimpickens


    Realt Dearg Sec wrote: »
    It's a shame it's dying

    It is not

    Ratings were fine.


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    #165
    Realt Dearg Sec
    Registered Users Posts: 10,822 ✭✭✭✭Realt Dearg Sec


    slimpickens wrote: »
    It is not

    Ratings were fine.

    The ratings for The Simpsons are also as high as ever, the show has still been dead for well over a decade.


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    #166
    slimpickens
    Registered Users Posts: 146 ✭✭slimpickens


    I was taking dying to mean it would soon finish.

    The last season (Falcons) - a few of my friends with no existing interest in NFL, watched, enjoyed and are now getting more into NFL.


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    #167
    Realt Dearg Sec
    Registered Users Posts: 10,822 ✭✭✭✭Realt Dearg Sec


    slimpickens wrote: »
    I was taking dying to mean it would soon finish.

    The last season (Falcons) - a few of my friends with no existing interest in NFL, watched, enjoyed and are now getting more into NFL.
    Fair enough, maybe I'm just getting sick of it. But really, it's the fact that, compared with the jets and dolphins series, the falcon one was very flat and sanitised. Bring me back Chad!

    That being said, maybe Johnny football will liven things up...


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    #168
    nerd69
    Registered Users Posts: 9,632 ✭✭✭nerd69


    to be fair i think when they could almost cherry pick teams they could get characters like rex on it that made the show. buffalo, pats, seahawks, eagles(maby I'm biased there but a chip training camp :eek:) maby broncos could all be excellent


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    #169
    Guffy
    Registered Users Posts: 8,033 ✭✭✭Guffy


    nerd69 wrote: »
    to be fair i think when they could almost cherry pick teams they could get characters like rex on it that made the show. buffalo, pats, seahawks, eagles(maby I'm biased there but a chip training camp :eek:) maby broncos could all be excellent

    New coach, playoff, playoff, playoff


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    #170
    nerd69
    Registered Users Posts: 9,632 ✭✭✭nerd69


    gufc21 wrote: »
    New coach, playoff, playoff, playoff

    i know that i was saying if they could cherry pick


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    #171
    Realt Dearg Sec
    Registered Users Posts: 10,822 ✭✭✭✭Realt Dearg Sec


    gufc21 wrote: »
    New coach, playoff, playoff, playoff

    I think that was his point.


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    #172
    nasty_crash
    Registered Users Posts: 950 ✭✭✭nasty_crash


    nerd69 wrote: »
    to be fair i think when they could almost cherry pick teams they could get characters like rex on it that made the show. buffalo, pats, seahawks, eagles(maby I'm biased there but a chip training camp :eek:) maby broncos could all be excellent

    im not so sure on the broncos pick - elway would just be in front of the camera all the time! haha!

    Definitely Eagles - with the way there off season has been - with bradford returning from injury - there could be a couple of good storylines in it!

    I personally hope its Vikings from the eligible teams - AP storyline, Cordarelle Patterson getting better at zimmers offense - bridgewaters development and then seeing how Waynes gets on!

    But i can see them giving it to the Browns tbh


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    #173
    Guffy
    Registered Users Posts: 8,033 ✭✭✭Guffy


    nerd69 wrote: »
    i know that i was saying if they could cherry pick

    Mis read, woosh lol


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    #174
    mikemac1
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    +1 for the Vikings, would like to see that

    Mike Zimmer was on it before for the Cowboys.

    Some players getting a lashing is guaranteed!

    He won't be giving weak waffley answers to players like Joe Philbin or telling players one thing and than doing the opposite like Mike Smith


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    #175
    poldebruin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,052 ✭✭✭poldebruin


    I'd love to see the Redskins or Browns for the QB competition with RG3 and Manziel. Also, the locker room dynamic would be very interesting, driven by attitudes towards those two players. My guess is that the NFL will want to leave Manziel alone for the moment though seeing as he is rehabbing.


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    #176
    jack presley
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    http://espn.go.com/blog/washington-redskins/post/_/id/17585/redskins-not-candidates-for-hard-knocks

    Redskins out, Houston rumoured to be the front runner


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    #177
    Paully D
    Registered Users Posts: 28,710 ✭✭✭✭Paully D


    jack presley wrote: »
    http://espn.go.com/blog/washington-redskins/post/_/id/17585/redskins-not-candidates-for-hard-knocks

    Redskins out, Houston rumoured to be the front runner

    The Texans just bore me to tears, J.J. Watt aside.

    In that sense, they'd be a fitting pick given the way the show has gone over the last couple of years.


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    #178
    slimpickens
    Registered Users Posts: 146 ✭✭slimpickens


    REally looking forward to JJ Watt and Jadeveon Clowney in practice.


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    #179
    nerd69
    Registered Users Posts: 9,632 ✭✭✭nerd69


    honestly if they just followed jj watt around for a few weeks it would be a better show


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    #180
    Morrison J
    Registered Users Posts: 3,849 ✭✭✭Morrison J


    Ryan Mallett will be hundreds of times more interesting than Matt Ryan. I actually think this could be a decent series. Mallett, Watt, Foster, Clowney and the best CB in this draft class imo Kevin Johnson. Not too bad at all.


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    #181
    Knex*
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    I think its impossible not to be more interesting than Matt Ryan. Dead people are more interesting that Matt Ryan. You have to actively seek that level of boredom, to not be more interesting than Matt Ryan.

    Like, you know when you're sitting on a train or a bus, or something, minding your own business, happy out. The guy next to you is doing likewise. No boredom. Guy suddenly starts talking about the most mundane thing imaginable in the most dull, monotonous fashion. Suddenly, you're simultaneously annoyed, bored, and wishing the fella would go back to looking out the window.

    That's Matt Ryan.


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