Internet Assoc make access a priority (shock!)

vinnyfitz · 17-11-2003 1:54pm #1

Just saw this in the IIA chairman's speech to their AGM a few weeks ago;

"Cost and ease of Internet access. We plan to provide transparent information regarding all forms of internet access costs - be it broadband, mobile or wifi etc. We want to educate the debate, make it easier for people to understand what options are open to them and at what cost. We would like to ensure that Ireland rises way above 51st worldwide in broadband usage statistics, and also position us to avail of advances in mobile internet by encouraging experimentation by users. What could these advance be? South Korea is at the forefront of broadband roll-out and now has a $400M broadband gaming industry with many companies set to be world leaders in the field, based upon their domestic experience. We certainly feel that if we build a wide user base of broadband uptake, innovation will come. This focus will be led by our board member Professor Marie Redmond. "

link

Who is Prof Marie Redmond anyone?

De Rebel · 17-11-2003 2:27pm

Originally posted by vinnyfitz
Who is Prof Marie Redmond anyone?

Her biog appears on the IIA website here

Prof. Marie Redmond
Marie Redmond is the Chief Executive Officer of XCommunications. Marie established the Multimedia Centre in 1991 where she was Director until she became Managing Director of XCommunications in January 1994. Marie worked in the computer industry for 15 years in Europe and North America. She was a consulting software writer with Digital Equipment Corporation specialising in networks and telecommunications and was Digital's representative to The Open Software Foundation. Marie is Course Director of the MSc. in Multimedia Systems at Trinity College Dublin where she was appointed Adjunct Professor of Computer Science in 2001. Marie was commissioned by Forfás to write sections of the Information Society Report published in March 1997. She is a jury member for the European Commission's Long -Term Research Program specialising in Internet and Network Technologies.

Incidentally, the IIA is not a body one would expect to see movement from. More an information gathering and stalling exercise.

spongebob · 17-11-2003 2:29pm

Lets have a look at this years Journo of the Year shortlist Here
. All they could find for their Visionary Journo in Ireland shortlist was

1. Jamie Smyth of the Irish Times !

?!
2. Sheila from ENN, ENN do not produce original material, they summarise press releases, nevertheless the IIA sees her as a Visionary

3. David Darcy . Computerscope .

No Karlin, Fergus or Adrian in there at all !

I do take the IIA very seriously though, who is this Prof person ?

All

BigEejit · 17-11-2003 3:07pm

from Webster Dictionary
Having or marked by foresight and imagination <a visionary leader> <a visionary invention>

heh it also had this:
of the nature of a vision : ILLUSORY b : incapable of being realized or achieved : UTOPIAN <a visionary scheme> c : existing only in imagination

They (the IIA) would seem to be living in the late 90's ... as Muck says WTF were they thinking of putting someone from ENN in a list of visionarys ... Mr Smith writes a column in a newspaper, I could do that by simply reading some websites .....and Mr Smith has got his facts more than a lttle wrong before... dunno about the guy in last place, but he cant be up to much considering the other two that are ahead of him

In case Mr Smith is reading this, I dont hate you or have anything much against you (except getting annoyed at skewed facts etc ...) but you are no visionary, a commentator yes, visionary no.

DonegalMan · 17-11-2003 3:39pm

From http://www.iia.ie/content.asp?id=2

Membership Criteria

Membership of the Irish Internet Association is open to incorporated businesses and legally constituted organisations. Membership application is open to any company that meets the following criteria and is subject to approval by the board. Eligible applicants must meet the following criteria:
- The organisation has been in business (trading) for at least 6 months.
- The organisation is a registered business or organisation (may be non-profit).
- The organisation has at least one e-mail address.
- Your organisation can show involvement/commitment to using the Internet for the purposes of conducting business and/or promoting the business or organisation.
- Alternatively, or in addition, you must show that you are involved in a professional capacity in Internet (related) technology, products or service creation and delivery. (It is not necessary to have a web site.)

Could/should IOFFL seek membership of this body ?

Martin Harran

spongebob · 17-11-2003 4:21pm

IoffL should have honourary membership !

De Rebel · 17-11-2003 7:23pm

Originally posted by DonegalMan

Could/should IOFFL seek membership of this body ?

I'd seriously doubt that its worth spending valuable time on. Its an information exchange. Individually many of the board members are fine fellows and high achievers, collectively its a "fingers on the pulse so me/my organisation misses nothing" classic piece of networking kind of outfit, unlikely to drive anything much anywhere.

dahamsta · 17-11-2003 7:47pm

Originally posted by De Rebel
I'd seriously doubt that its worth spending valuable time on.

Or money. Might as well flush it down the toilet.

adam

jmcc · 17-11-2003 8:01pm

Originally posted by Muck
Lets have a look at this years Journo of the Year shortlist Here
. All they could find for their Visionary Journo in Ireland shortlist was

1. Jamie Smyth of the Irish Times !?!

Former winner - year before last I think.

2. Sheila from ENN, ENN do not produce original material, they summarise press releases, nevertheless the IIA sees her as a Visionary

Probably the only place that runs the guff from IIA unchecked. Besides look at the membership of the IIA - it is not exactly representative of the Internet Industry.

3. David Darcy . Computerscope .

The only real journo in the list. But journalists are not meant to have visions unless of course they work for Hot Press or the Rolling Stone.

No Karlin, Fergus or Adrian in there at all !

All previous winners except for Fergus. Of course the killing joke is that IIA's Journo of the Year competition is sponsored by a PR company.

I do take the IIA very seriously though, who is this Prof person ?

Another talking head. The IIA is full of them. Perhaps IIA is more aptly described as the Irish E-jit Association.

Regards...jmcc

jmcc · 17-11-2003 8:04pm

Originally posted by vinnyfitz
Just saw this in the IIA chairman's speech to their AGM a few weeks ago;

"Cost and ease of Internet access. We plan to provide transparent information regarding all forms of internet access costs

Now that I read this again, a quote from Billy Connolly springs to mind:

Who the fsck are these people?

Regards...jmcc

BigEejit · 17-11-2003 9:17pm

Originally posted by jmcc
The IIA is full of them. Perhaps IIA is more aptly described as the Irish E-jit Association.

I take offence to that ... us eejits want nothing to do with that lot!..

spongebob · 17-11-2003 9:39pm

Originally posted by jmcc
Another talking head. The IIA is full of them. Perhaps IIA is more aptly described as the Irish E-jit Association.

Regards...jmcc

I see that you yourself never got nominated as a "Visionary" for "Being Right all Along" with IEWatch and the like.

Should we organise a whip around so that your can graciously host your very own table at the Gig

M

jmcc · 17-11-2003 11:54pm

Originally posted by Muck
I see that you yourself never got nominated as a "Visionary" for "Being Right all Along" with IEWatch and the like.

The IIA does not like the truth.

But I think that the whole industry will celebrate when IEDR, its board and management is damned to oblivion. And then maybe the IIA will get real. Effecting change is enough reward.

Regards...jmcc

The Clown Man · 18-11-2003 12:40am

Haha! Those guys are funny! Lets make money from angry people!

Anyway, what were we trying to achieve again?

Ba$tard · 18-11-2003 11:17am

Seriously, are these guys for real?

What a laugh

Membership Benefits
Free/Discounted rates for all IIA events/seminars/conferences nationwide

Access to IIA member-only events

Sponsor/participate at IIA seminars nationwide

Whippeeee....what I always wanted!! :mad:

IIA members can avail of a number of negotiated special offers from the following companies: VHI, Bupa, Web Intellect, Ireland.com, ebrand and Irish Broadband. There is also a discounted rate for IIA Members to attend the Hivercon Security Conference 2003. Log onto the Members Extranet for further information

*COUGH* Bupa, ireland.com, oh my focking god. All for only 350 Euro, muhahaha.
I just cant take that seriously!

Can someone hack their site please or did someone already do it ?

DonegalMan · 18-11-2003 8:04pm

Originally posted by DonegalMan
Could/should IOFFL seek membership of this body ?

Originally posted by De Rebel
I'd seriously doubt that its worth spending valuable time on.

Originally posted by dahamsta
Or money. Might as well flush it down the toilet.

I was thinking of it increasing the general standing of IOFFL plus giving them the opportunity of formally challenging the work of this body.

The old expression about pissing inside/outside the tent springs to mind - imagine the furore we could create if they refused us membership, for example:)

Might be worth the €350 - I'd willingly chip in something if the committee thought it would be worthwhile

Martin Harran

Internet Assoc make access a priority (shock!)

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