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Seven-year old announces he's gay

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    #62
    Odysseus
    Registered Users Posts: 6,754 ✭✭✭Odysseus


    Thanks to the local priests, one of them in my area was infamous, I had a basic idea of what being gay was by that age. Most kids have some conscious sense of sexuality by that age.

    It's a difficult topic I would really need to think a lot more on it [this particular example], but the childs sexual position could easy be fixed by that age, it not written in stone either; but a significant ampount of gay people I have work with had some thoughts about it by that age. A lot of "straight" people have had gay questions about their sexual position by that age too.


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    #63
    Liam Byrne
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    A seven year old shouldn't even know that gay and straight exist as concepts.


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    #64
    PhlegmyMoses
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    The original article is ridiculous. The woman clearly wants everyone to know how progressive she is.


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    #65
    Princess Consuela Bananahammock
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    Liam Byrne wrote: »
    A seven year old shouldn't even know that gay and straight exist as concepts.

    Take that one up with nature, because they do have a sense of sexuality at that age.

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



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    #66
    mikemac1
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    At that age girls are icky and they worship the county GAA team or Premiership footballers or both


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    #67
    Liam Byrne
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    Ikky Poo2 wrote: »
    Liam Byrne wrote: »
    A seven year old shouldn't even know that gay and straight exist as concepts.

    Take that one up with nature, because they do have a sense of sexuality at that age.

    Don't think it's nature - more declining culture with excessive sexualisation.

    I certainly had no inkling or interest aged 7


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    #68
    Odysseus
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    Liam Byrne wrote: »
    A seven year old shouldn't even know that gay and straight exist as concepts.

    Out of interest why not? Infants are sexual beings never mind seven year olds.

    I knew a penis entered a vagina around that age. I had a strange conscious concept of the gay sexual act. I had this image of two erect penises [point to point if you will] and could work out how that worked. I had not conscious concept of there being another entry point. God the working of a child's mind:o


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    #69
    Odysseus
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    Liam Byrne wrote: »
    Don't think it's nature - more declining culture with excessive sexualisation.

    I certainly had no inkling or interest aged 7

    A couple of hours having a look at that in therapy may change your opinion. Did you know what "diddy's" :P were at 7?

    I wanted a chance to use that word again!!! However, if you where you knew about sexual difference.


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    #70
    Lia_lia
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    Meh, not surprising.

    From a very young age (probably about 6 or 7) I always saw both genders as the same. My parents have loads of gay/bisexual friends so I just kinda assumed everyone was into men and women. Ha! I don't know if that was because of the environment I grew up in or if it was a natural..thing. Never went around announcing to my parents "I am bisexual!" though. Probably because I though it was normal :/


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    #71
    Lia_lia
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    Liam Byrne wrote: »
    A seven year old shouldn't even know that gay and straight exist as concepts.

    Why not?


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    #72
    UglyBolloxFace
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    My daughter has always been what would be considered a "tomboy". When she played games, she chose boys names etc. When she was 3, my husband was asking her would he do for a wedding we were going to. He was in jeans! She said he would, but that he would have to wear a suit for her wedding. He told her that she better marry a nice man then to which she replied "I might marry a woman". My husband just said, yeh, you might, and she turned and walked out of the room.

    If my daughter (who is now 7 and sitting here shooting a nerf gun at my walls) actually said the words "I'm a lesbian", yes, I'd be taken aback, but only by the words, not by what it actually means.

    Your daughter's a lesbian. And good on her:)


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    #73
    saa
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    Maybe us straight folk just don't remember realising we were straight as it didn't stir up any feelings of conflict with the world we were learning about at the time, because you do hear a lot of gay folk talking about when they realised they were gay at a very young age nothing to do with sex at that stage.

    I wouldn't be shocked I was that age when I was adamant I was straight, I liked boys, I didn't know what sex was, I saw gay people before on tv I had a sense of what it was but I don't believe a child would be influenced. I believe you know as a child what your sexuality is (if it is not fluid it may be) and you just don't have the means to express it.


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    #74
    Bannasidhe
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    krudler wrote: »
    does a 7 year old even know what being gay is?

    I did. I had a huge crush on the girl up the road. I just didn't have a 'word' for it. 40 years later, I still haven't grown out of my same-sex crush phase.
    My sister knew she liked boys aged 7, my brother knew he liked girls - why the hell should it be any different for gay kids?
    I knew before my son was 7 that he was straight, just like I knew my niece wasn't.


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    #75
    The King of Moo
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    Liam Byrne wrote: »
    A seven year old shouldn't even know that gay and straight exist as concepts.

    I think these days they would though.

    When I was seven I probably wouldn't have known what being gay was. I might have heard the word used, but knew only that a gay person was vaguely different somehow.

    I think kids are more aware of such things now, and for the better. I think you can still know about homo and heterosexuality without knowing all of the sexual mechanics involved in either, seeing them more in terms of romantic attraction.

    Fortunately we seem to be moving towards a society where homosexuality is normalised and people can realise earlier that they might be gay or bisexual, and not go through too many difficulties in coming to terms with that.


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    #76
    Odysseus
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    The King of Moo wrote: »
    I think these days they would though.

    When I was seven I probably wouldn't have known what being gay was. I might have heard the word used, but knew only that a gay person was vaguely different somehow.

    I think kids are more aware of such things now, and for the better. I think you can still know about homo and heterosexuality without knowing all of the sexual mechanics involved in either, seeing them more in terms of romantic attraction.

    Infantile sexuality has been around 100s if not thousand of years. This is not a product of the media and fashion ect, it goes much deeper than that.


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    #77
    ejmaztec
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    If in years to come he decides that he never was gay, he's going to be really happy that his mother told the entire world that he was.


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    #78
    The King of Moo
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    Odysseus wrote: »
    Infantile sexuality has been around 100s if not thousand of years. This is not a product of the media and fashion ect, it goes much deeper than that.

    Absolutely, I was just talking about the labels gay and straight.

    But you're right, infants do seem to have an innate sense of sexuality that they're usually socialised out of. It's hard to imagine a society in which very young children aren't dissuaded from exploring it.


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    #79
    Odysseus
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    ejmaztec wrote: »
    If in years to come he decides that he never was gay, he's going to be really happy that his mother told the entire world that he was.

    Yeah, his first time to bring a girl home and instead of bringing out the photo album, she takes out a usb key with that blog entry on it. Cooing "we all thought it was so sweet/cute"


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    #80
    Bannasidhe
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    Odysseus wrote: »
    Yeah, his first time to bring a girl home and instead of bringing out the photo album, she takes out a usb key with that blog entry on it. Cooing "we all thought it was so sweet/cute"

    Just like the first time I brought my girlfriend home (aged 21) and my mother got out my communion photos - which was the last time I had worn a dress - and started talking about how she always always wished I would enter the Rose of Tralee :eek:.


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    Princess Consuela Bananahammock
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    Liam Byrne wrote: »
    Don't think it's nature - more declining culture with excessive sexualisation.

    I certainly had no inkling or interest aged 7

    It's nature, trust me. They know the difference between a boy and a girl and a mummy and a daddy.
    ejmaztec wrote: »
    If in years to come he decides that he never was gay, he's going to be really happy that his mother told the entire world that he was.

    I think he'll probably get a laugh out of it. If his parents don't make a big deal about it, he won't make a big deal about it. It'll just go down as one of those funny childhood stories that your parents always wheel out at Christmas parties.

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



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    #82
    ch750536
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    Slap some straight into him.


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    #83
    TeddyTedson
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    ch750536 wrote: »
    Slap some straight into him.
    Ironically that sounds a little...fruity!!
    :p


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    #84
    validusername1
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    Why's it even news that this guy comes out as gay?

    If a seven year old revealed himself as straight, nobody would write a news article. I don't understand how it's in any way interesting that someone comes out, regardless of their age. Everyone is people. Sexuality and age makes no difference.


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    #85
    Pdfile
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    The King of Moo wrote: »
    I think that's what happened here.

    The kid likes Blaine.
    Blaine says he's gay.
    The kid says he's gay to be more like Blaine, possibly not knowing what being gay means.

    Though I wouldn't let my seven-year old watch Glee.
    Not because of the gay characters or characters having sex, but because it's ****e.



    or maybe thee kid wants a willy in the bum ?? :pac:


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    #86
    grizzly
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    If more kids could say they're gay, at any age – we wouldn't have to have this thread.


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    #87
    ch750536
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    TeddyTedson wrote: »
    Ironically that sounds a little...fruity!!
    :p

    zackly


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    #88
    penelopeanne
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    Kids as young as seven should be protected from tv programmes with ANY sexual content. It is just too young. That is what having parents is for. Up to the age of 18 our parents are supposed to protect us from anything that might hurt us. I see a child of seven as far too young to know what sex is all about. I'm straight, I'm gay... at SEVEN. God Knows, we're children for a short enough time. I had no idea of sexual preference or anything like that until I was at least 13 and then fancied the latest popstar, who happened to be male, and then my hormones took over, and I knew I fancied boys. I'm sure if I announced to my mother when I was 7, Mum I'm straight, she would have given me a clout. You just don't announce these things. That child sounds like a right little ****e, spoiled brat, who is sooo precocious. These yanky kids drive me madddd..


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    #89
    Seachmall
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    What really irks me about this story is the clear double standard.

    They happily accept it when he says he's gay but seem to dismiss his claims of dating Blaine.

    You must either accept his sexuality and his, albeit unconventional, relationship with the 17 year old fictional TV character or take both with a grain of salt as a kid mimicking what he sees on TV.


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    #90
    sunflower27
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    is this not all because the kid likes David Blaine - because he is a magician and kids like magicians. And he wants to be like his hero, so he says he is gay too?

    It doesn't mean the 7-year-old fancies the guy in that way.


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    #91
    toexpress
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    Am as gay as the day is long myself so some of this may shock you.

    My reaction would be horror. That's not to say I don't want to be gay, in the words of the song I am what I am and I had a great 10 years with my partner until he died. But it can be a lonely life, it's not what I would want for any child of mine I have to say.

    Also, he is 7, he is not sexually developed or aware of what all of this means. He has another few years to go on that one and it could all change.

    What this does raise is the fact that there is an overtly sexual charge in the various different TV shows that are available for children. I don't watch Glee (I confess I would be more of a Prime Time fan) so I cant comment on that but there does seem to be something wrong with TV shows that would try and display such content in an effort to sway a child in one way or the other. Sexuality is not a free choice, I am not suggesting that but it is a path of discovery that this child should make as he becomes a teenager and a young man.

    In closing, what the hell ever happened to Bosco?


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