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15-year-old dead and four others injured in Dublin crash

  • 21-12-2014 12:09pm
    #1
    MarkR
    Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators Posts: 11,053 Mod ✭✭✭✭


    A 15-year-old has died and four other teenagers are in hospital following a crash in Dublin last night.
    It happened at around 10pm at Station Road in Clondalkin when the car they were travelling in collided with a tree.
    The four other occupants of the car, all male and aged between 14 and16 years, have been taken to hospital.

    Link

    I feel sorry for the families, but find it hard to feel the same for those in the car. None of them over 16, so either stolen, or "just" driving around with no insurance. Seems to be no real repercussions for youth crime like this. No point in locking them up either, that will just institutionalize them.

    I'm thinking chain gang cleaning roads or something else visible, and worthwhile to the community.

    What would you do (seriously) to the remaining kids?


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  • #2
    whupdedo
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,513 ✭✭✭whupdedo


    Tough **** imo


  • #3
    bladespin
    Registered Users Posts: 7,333 ✭✭✭bladespin


    TBH as a parent (of much younger kids) I really believe the parents should be responsible, or at least to some reasonable extent, when underage kids break the law (not inferring that is the case here).

    Still a child dead on the run to Christmas, harsh lesson there alone.


  • #4
    tayto lover
    Registered Users Posts: 51,453 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    Very sad incident but responsible parents should know where their 15 year old children are at 10 p.m.at night.


  • #5
    Comhrá
    Registered Users Posts: 4,752 ✭✭✭Comhrá


    sugarman wrote: »
    Boo hoo

    What if that tree they collided with was a family car coming home from doing their Christmas shopping?

    I don't have the answers either but 'Boo hoo' isn't very sensitive or helpful. :(


  • #6
    Dr Turk Turkelton
    Registered Users Posts: 2,894 ✭✭✭Dr Turk Turkelton


    Is the tree ok?


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  • #7
    greasepalm
    Registered Users Posts: 5,250 ✭✭✭greasepalm


    aye no respect for rules or life ,hope the tree recovers as it did not do anything wrong,if parents cant control them,swift justice was served.


  • #8
    Owryan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,024 ✭✭✭Owryan


    Natures way of protecting the gene pool. My sympathies to their families but hope the tree makes a full recovery


  • #9
    Gosub
    Closed Accounts Posts: 874 ✭✭✭Gosub


    My heartfelt sorrow and deep condolences go out to the owner of the car. It must be tough losing your transport at this time of the year.


  • #10
    EazyD
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,207 ✭✭✭EazyD


    Meh, no licence, no insurance and clearly no regard for anyone else but themselves. Hard to muster any sympathy tbh, easily could have been a family they took out.


  • #11
    Breffnigolfer
    Closed Accounts Posts: 294 ✭✭Breffnigolfer


    sugarman wrote: »
    Boo hoo

    What if that tree they collided with was a family car coming home from doing their Christmas shopping?

    How about you deal with what happened and not some hypothetical scenario which did not?

    (If the family was coming home without having been Christmas shopping would it be better or worse?)


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  • #12
    Spook_ie
    Registered Users Posts: 10,896 ✭✭✭✭Spook_ie


    Well considering rapists, murderers etc don't have capital punishment imposed on them, I must say some of the posts are the usual knee jerk KB warrior comments.


  • #13
    visual
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,268 ✭✭✭visual


    Owryan wrote: »
    Natures way of protecting the gene pool. My sympathies to their families but hope the tree makes a full recovery

    Gene pool ? money and who you know doesn't make the elite or "want to be's" superior in anyway.just more fortunate as they take advantage of what's on offer while excluding those less fortunate.

    Ask yourself why so many young lads where in that stolen car.

    I don't condone their actions but there is a deeper problem than just a stolen car with kids driving around in it.


  • #14
    tayto lover
    Registered Users Posts: 51,453 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    visual wrote: »
    Gene pool ? money and who you know doesn't make the elite or "want to be's" superior in anyway.just more fortunate as they take advantage of what's on offer while excluding those less fortunate.

    Ask yourself why so many young lads where in that stolen car.

    I don't condone their actions but there is a deeper problem than just a stolen car with kids driving around in it.

    Apparently the car was not stolen ??


  • #15
    Kenny Logins
    Registered Users Posts: 9,061 ✭✭✭Kenny Logins


    Considering this is a motoring forum (before it gets moved to AH), I wonder how many posters in here took a sneaky spin in their parents' car at that age...


  • #16
    greasepalm
    Registered Users Posts: 5,250 ✭✭✭greasepalm


    nope i had a respect for parents car and did not drive until 16 or 17


  • #17
    smokie72
    Registered Users Posts: 214 ✭✭smokie72


    I know that spot fairly well. They would have gone over the railway bridge and that spot is at the bottom of the railway bridge so they would have been picking up speed before they hit the tree. Probably not wearing any seatbelts either. If they didn't hit the tree they probably would have ploughed into the side of a house which is in james connelly estate or killed anybody who was driving or walking towards the bridge. Either way not the news any family wants to hear at any time of the year. Rip


  • #18
    Kenny Logins
    Registered Users Posts: 9,061 ✭✭✭Kenny Logins


    greasepalm wrote: »
    nope i had a respect for parents car and did not drive until 16 or 17

    That was a rhetorical question, about how many DID, so not sure what your point is...


  • #19
    efb
    Closed Accounts Posts: 35,514 ✭✭✭✭efb


    Can't believe some of the posts here, the death penalty is a tough sentence for joy riding. My sympathies to the lads familes. It's tough losing someone, especially at Christmas


  • #20
    yosser hughes
    Registered Users Posts: 3,879 ✭✭✭yosser hughes


    visual wrote: »
    Gene pool ? money and who you know doesn't make the elite or "want to be's" superior in anyway.just more fortunate as they take advantage of what's on offer while excluding those less fortunate.

    Ask yourself why so many young lads where in that stolen car.

    I don't condone their actions but there is a deeper problem than just a stolen car with kids driving around in it.

    What was not on offer to these kids?


  • #21
    masti123
    Registered Users Posts: 661 ✭✭✭masti123


    I know the lads who were in the car last night. Maybe the car was robbed, it doesn't mean a 15 year old kid deserved to die a few days before Christmas just because he got into a car.


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  • #22
    Alias G
    Registered Users Posts: 789 ✭✭✭Alias G


    Kenny Logins wrote: »
    Considering this is a motoring forum (before it gets moved to AH), I wonder how many posters in here took a sneaky spin in their parents' car at that age...

    I'd say very few to be fair. Hardly that common to be stealing your parents car unless you were a right upstart of a kid


  • #23
    degrassinoel
    Registered Users Posts: 10,731 ✭✭✭✭degrassinoel


    masti123 wrote: »
    I know the lads who were in the car last night. Maybe the car was robbed, it doesn't mean a 15 year old kid deserved to die a few days before Christmas just because he got into a car.


    Totally agree.

    Everyone was young once and made some stupid mistakes, we all did. There is a grieving family out there today who's child wont be around for Christmas. It's just a shame that this resulted in a death, and lucky it didn't result in even more carnage.


  • #24
    anewme
    Registered Users Posts: 11,859 ✭✭✭✭anewme


    I also know the area very well and having seen the point of impact, they must have been doing some speed and ploughed into a residential area.

    It is really by grace of God that no innocent person either pedestrian or motorist was killed.


  • #25
    Kenny Logins
    Registered Users Posts: 9,061 ✭✭✭Kenny Logins


    anewme wrote: »
    I also know the area very well and having seen the point of impact, they must have been doing some speed and ploughed into a residential area.

    It is really by grace of God that no innocent person either pedestrian or motorist was killed.


    God should really have had a word before they took the car.


  • #26
    degrassinoel
    Registered Users Posts: 10,731 ✭✭✭✭degrassinoel


    Kenny Logins wrote: »
    God should really have had a word before they took the car.

    If you say so


  • #27
    Greenmachine
    Registered Users Posts: 5,063 ✭✭✭Greenmachine


    Live by the sword die by it.


  • #28
    Gits_bone
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,345 ✭✭✭Gits_bone


    The first few comments in this are sickening.

    Just because they may have stolen the car and it happening in Clondalkin there's no sympathy. No one deserves to be taken off the earth.


  • #29
    LawlessBoy
    Registered Users Posts: 1,001 ✭✭✭LawlessBoy


    Gits_bone wrote: »
    The first few comments in this are sickening.

    Just because they may have stolen the car and it happening in Clondalkin there's no sympathy. No one deserves to be taken off the earth.

    Have to agree at the end of the say there's a 15 year old boy dead who won't be around this Christmas with a grieving family.


  • #30
    Kenny Logins
    Registered Users Posts: 9,061 ✭✭✭Kenny Logins


    degrassinoel wrote: »
    If you say so

    Sorry, quoted the wrong post.


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  • #31
    Music Box
    Registered Users Posts: 31 ✭Music Box


    Car wasn't stolen, ie reported stolen. If taken without parents consent then equivalent to stealing. Who was the owner of the car? Had they knowledge that 5 yahoos had taken it and were out of control in a public area. I suppose someone to blame will now be looked for. Thankfully nobody outside the car was hurt.


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