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Strandhill

  • 25-01-2012 11:19am
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    Registered Users Posts: 1,728 ✭✭✭


    Made the 9 o clock news last night, fears been raised that it'll be washed out to sea


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  • Registered Users Posts: 243 ✭✭Decos


    rodento wrote: »
    Made the 9 o clock news last night, fears been raised that it'll be washed out to sea
    What will? The beach itself?!


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,103 ✭✭✭promethius


    The report was inaccurate.
    The beach has been reposessed by the troika as part of a backroom deal done with Enda Kenny. They were looking for achill but he sent them north of his home county.

    That aside, the sand there is at an all time low. Loads sucked out by the recent battering of storms and good swells which seemed to keep going on and on. This has meant there's hardly any sand left as can be seen here which is undermining the walk ways and some of the sand dunes.

    Surfing wise, its never been better bar the long painful walk over the rocks on a low tide.

    The local businesses and golf club are understandably worried as you can't really walk on most of the beach now.

    Sand has always cmoe and gone there but this much is unusual. It will prob come back in time but who knows.

    This all happened after the defences were built down at blue rock for the water treatment plant. Coincidence? i don't know i'm not an expert or qualifed to answer that.


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,475 ✭✭✭John_Rambo


    promethius wrote: »
    Surfing wise, its never been better bar the long painful walk over the rocks on a low tide

    Rocks are not good for surf tourism.

    Good for rockstars and groms in camper vans, but not good for Strandhill's tourist surfers, stags, hens, the weekend warriors that use the local facilities, spend in the shops etc... Basically the heart and soul of surfing in Strandhill. Plenty of great beach and reef breaks around, but none with the facilities for non surfers, wives and kids of the lads that travel there for weekends.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,103 ✭✭✭promethius


    John_Rambo wrote: »
    Rocks are not good for surf tourism.

    Good for rockstars and groms in camper vans, but not good for Strandhill's tourist surfers, stags, hens, the weekend warriors that use the local facilities, spend in the shops etc... Basically the heart and soul of surfing in Strandhill. Plenty of great beach and reef breaks around, but none with the facilities for non surfers, wives and kids of the lads that travel there for weekends.

    great all the more waves for the real surfers ;)


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,475 ✭✭✭John_Rambo


    promethius wrote: »
    great all the more waves for the real surfers ;)

    'I'm alright Jack' good for you, not good for locals, local business and seasonal employment opportunities that involve golf, surf and the beach.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,103 ✭✭✭promethius


    John_Rambo wrote: »
    'I'm alright Jack' good for you, not good for locals, local business and seasonal employment opportunities that involve golf, surf and the beach.

    get off your highhorse, i am a local and have friends that own businesses in strandhill and others that work in them. talk about stating the obvious

    my original comment stands, since oct when the biggest movement of sand started the waves haven't been as good in years.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,946 ✭✭✭spaceHopper


    John_Rambo wrote: »
    'I'm alright Jack' good for you, not good for locals, local business and seasonal employment opportunities that involve golf, surf and the beach.

    It's not good for anybody even good surfer eventually the beach will wash away and strom will move the stones about changing the shape of the beach.


  • Registered Users Posts: 286 ✭✭keryl


    I don't want to come across naive here but if this isn't caused by the treatment plant (sorry not sure exactly what the construction is) then isn't it just natural and anything that tries to tackle it, well it's causing a destruction somewhere else. I understand there are businesses there and I'm not saying they should just accept it but is there really anything they can do?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,728 ✭✭✭rodento


    keryl wrote: »
    I don't want to come across naive here but if this isn't caused by the treatment plant (sorry not sure exactly what the construction is) then isn't it just natural and anything that tries to tackle it, well it's causing a destruction somewhere else. I understand there are businesses there and I'm not saying they should just accept it but is there really anything they can do?

    An artificial reef further out could be an option, take the sting out of the storm surge


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,103 ✭✭✭promethius


    keryl wrote: »
    I don't want to come across naive here but if this isn't caused by the treatment plant (sorry not sure exactly what the construction is) then isn't it just natural and anything that tries to tackle it, well it's causing a destruction somewhere else. I understand there are businesses there and I'm not saying they should just accept it but is there really anything they can do?

    yeah it could well be, the biggest losses in sand have conincided with it being there. An expert could probably figure this out pretty easily, could the impact analysis been wrong or possibly not even done??

    from what i've seen before though is that when you fix a costal problem somewhere, it normally moves somewhere else which is what you're getting at there.

    i think we need to see a few months with calmer conditions after the autumn and winter pounding and see where things stand.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,728 ✭✭✭rodento


    Problem is you have another big swell arriving tomorrow with a 4m tide


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,103 ✭✭✭promethius


    yeah it's supposed to clean up for the weekend could be some good waves going.

    that super tide earlier last year wouldn't have helped either. it was shocking how low it went and vice versa.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,728 ✭✭✭rodento




  • Registered Users Posts: 1,103 ✭✭✭promethius


    nice one a good report.
    tom came accross well on it, he noted the erosion was really affecting the learners as well.
    streedagh could be the new strandhill! except there's nothing down there bar a portaloo in the summer :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 286 ✭✭keryl


    I suppose if they did construct an breaker reef it would be great also for surfing


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,475 ✭✭✭John_Rambo


    promethius wrote: »
    nice one a good report.
    tom came accross well on it, he noted the erosion was really affecting the learners as well.
    streedagh could be the new strandhill! except there's nothing down there bar a portaloo in the summer :D

    That was my point, I didn't want to mention other breaks and I didn't mean to come across high horsey, sorry.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,103 ✭✭✭promethius


    John_Rambo wrote: »
    That was my point, I didn't want to mention other breaks and I didn't mean to come across high horsey, sorry.

    hey it aint nothing but a thing bro :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,452 ✭✭✭Ronnie Beck


    promethius wrote: »
    yeah it could well be, the biggest losses in sand have conincided with it being there. An expert could probably figure this out pretty easily, could the impact analysis been wrong or possibly not even done??

    from what i've seen before though is that when you fix a costal problem somewhere, it normally moves somewhere else which is what you're getting at there.

    i think we need to see a few months with calmer conditions after the autumn and winter pounding and see where things stand.

    I was another beach in sligo today that I surf quiet a bit. It was a similar story there. It's in the middle of nowhere. Seems to be a natural event. swell has been consistently massive all winter. I remember about five years ago scientists predicted that we would get more intense low pressures pushing up into the NE atlantic over the next ten years due to global warming.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 865 ✭✭✭FlashD


    Kind of crazy to see that.

    Spending money to rectify that beach would be just like throwing money into a bottomless pit, money that the country dosen't have anymore for things like this.

    As for the golf course, well the investors should have thought of this before they pumped their cash into their vanity project but I for one don't want to see tax money being spent to fix their problem.

    Once some calmer spring weather starts to come around i'm guessing the beach will start to return to some normality, all that sand washed out has to wash back in again somewhere.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,728 ✭✭✭rodento


    Is more a problem that strandhill is becoming a beach destination with no beach

    Coastal path is washed away

    http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2012/0124/1224310672525.html


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,103 ✭✭✭promethius


    rodento wrote: »
    Is more a problem that strandhill is becoming a beach destination with no beach

    Coastal path is washed away

    http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2012/0124/1224310672525.html

    does anyone know if Tony McLoughlin is ok? haven't seen him or heard a thing from him since the election. This is his old county council area very surprised he's not more visible on the issue while Merc McSharry is getting all the headlines.

    The report is key here, that's critical to everything. I hope these guys doing it are good!!!!


  • Administrators, Computer Games Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,074 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Mickeroo


    I often wonder about spending loads of money on trying to prevent this type of coastal erosion. Its not good for the local economy, I understand that, but the likes of beaches and sand dunes are constantly changing environments by their very nature, so in my eyes shelling out loads of money to stop this is the opposite of conservation and is ultimately fighting a losing battle as the measures usually slow down the processes rather than prevent them altogether. It's also highley likely the beach will naturally recover of its own accord since the persistently big swells we've had this winter were unusual in terms of their consistency(not that I'm complaining about that :D).


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,103 ✭✭✭promethius


    spotted a jcb on the rocks halfway down to bluerock at strandhill at first light this morning. not sure what they were at but they were there.

    there's been some rocks put down at second beach at rosses point too, like a wall about shoulder or waist high, looks like it won't last long could be just to be seen to be doing something or it's only started. actually i did see some plant stuff there the next day so prob is in process.


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,475 ✭✭✭John_Rambo


    I'm no engineer, but I know the sea... Would gabions not be the short term answer rather than rock armour? It's the frickin Atlantic.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,728 ✭✭✭rodento


    Minister of state looked at the damage yesterday

    http://www.independent.ie/national-news/all-at-sea-hayes-visits-town-hit-by-coastal-erosion-3089300.html

    MINISTER of State Brian Hayes yesterday visited the site of some of Ireland's worst coastal erosion in years amid fears that the damage could hit tourism.
    A giant chunk of the coast at Strandhill in Co Sligo -- measuring 40 metres long and 100 metres inland -- collapsed into the sea during just one storm last November.
    A coastal walk was washed away and there are fears that the seaside town's golf course could be hit in future storms.
    Mr Hayes chatted to local surfer Paul Buchanan and Fianna Fail senator Marc MacSharry on the visit to Strandhill.
    "If appropriate resources are not immediately allocated, Shelly Valley and the very existence of Strandhill Golf Club are at risk," said the senator.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,103 ✭✭✭promethius


    A lot of the sand has come back now at this stage as some of us had predicted. it's not all back but a big difference. it hasn't been breaking as well out there as when it was gone on the flipside :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 51 ✭✭slimgsi


    i was at bluerock for the first time this week, it was firing perfect 3ft rights, made my week :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 532 ✭✭✭Gingko


    slimgsi wrote: »
    i was at bluerock for the first time this week, it was firing perfect 3ft rights, made my week :D
    Well blue rock wont be effected anyway. Tis a nice break when on! Reckon beach will return. Usual off the handle reaction. Seen that beach come and go over the years.

    Speaking of strandhill does anyone have contact details for a steve / stephen. Surfed a red longboard there for some years. Tallish guy with shaved head, kinda hippy? He used to get barrels on a longboard? Need to pick his brain re a shaper in santa cruz. Also a japanese guy that used to surf a yellow fish. Yugi i think? Super nippy! Some decent heads that way. And can someone tell me what happened to paul rennick? Thanks


  • Registered Users Posts: 382 ✭✭tedshredsonfire


    Hi Gingko the Japanese guy whose name escapes me might be the same one that made the surf video waking maeve hes still round strandhill. Don't know the Steve guys. On Paul well really sorry to be the bearer of bad news but Paul passed away last year while in Oz. Theres a facebook page here to his memory here http://www.facebook.com/pages/In-Loving-Memory-Of-Paul-Rennick-RIP-Sligo/269485159746161?ref=ts
    All round good bloke, a true waterman and usually a massive smile on his face.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 532 ✭✭✭Gingko


    Hi Gingko the Japanese guy whose name escapes me might be the same one that made the surf video waking maeve hes still round strandhill. Don't know the Steve guys. On Paul well really sorry to be the bearer of bad news but Paul passed away last year while in Oz. Theres a facebook page here to his memory here http://www.facebook.com/pages/In-Loving-Memory-Of-Paul-Rennick-RIP-Sligo/269485159746161?ref=ts
    All round good bloke, a true waterman and usually a massive smile on his face.

    re Paul Rennick, I knew he passed away just didn't hear how? Yes very sad indeed. Maybe just leave it at that. RIP.

    May see Yugi again so if he's still about and it was just the one Steve! He shared a cottage with a couple of girls at Culleenamore for a while. Drove an old escort van? (i think)


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