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    #32
    kc90
    Registered Users Posts: 364 ✭✭kc90


    Perspectives wrote: »
    I hope you're joking??

    Are you going to answer the question or should I assume that your opinion is enough?


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    #33
    Dravokivich
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,360 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    kunst nugget wrote: »
    36% of the internet I think was the statistic used in the Sunday Times. Someone can correct me on that but it's there or thereabouts. Personally I can't see the problem of an 'opt in' option on a device or on your wifi. If you're old enough to pay the bills for your own phone or wifi then have your jollies all you want.

    Things that are opt in, are usually not very obvious or well publicised. The default should never be off, and there is an opt out for people if they want to prevent youngers from accessing it.


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    #34
    kc90
    Registered Users Posts: 364 ✭✭kc90


    Perspectives wrote: »
    That would be great in an ideal world.... now back to reality! ;-)

    Are you saying parents shouldn't take responsibility of their own children?


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    #35
    kunst nugget
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,375 ✭✭✭✭kunst nugget


    mailforkev wrote: »
    Or how about you filter out the adult content in your own home (which is not too difficult), parent your own children, and leave the rest of us alone.

    Tbf, it's not about not allowing everyone else access to pornography, everyone would have the option if they wanted to look at pornography or not. You would just have to 'opt in' on whatever device you were using. So, when your teenager gets a new phone, you as the parent could set it to 'opt out'. As much as you try to police your kids with the internet, you're hardly going to be able to stand behind them 24 hours a day.


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    #36
    Bits_n_Bobs
    Registered Users Posts: 1,300 ✭✭✭Bits_n_Bobs


    OP joined boards today and posts about removing pron from the interwebz. Hmmm.....


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    #37
    Perspectives
    Registered Users Posts: 17 ✭Perspectives


    kc90 wrote: »
    Are you going to answer the question or should I assume that your opinion is enough?

    Nice avoidance technique to avoid your initial illogical statement.:eek:


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    #38
    TPD
    Registered Users Posts: 7,814 ✭✭✭TPD


    The responsibility should be squarely on the person paying for the internet connection. If you can't be bothered figuring out how to monitor and filter your child's access then you've only yourself to blame when they end up felching hot singles in their area.


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    #39
    shruikan2553
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,113 ✭✭✭shruikan2553


    Keep the internet with no blocks and allow people to block stuff they dont want people seeing on their WiFi the internet at my grandparents came with a block by default and it kept blocking non porn websites


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    #40
    Genghiz Cohen
    Registered Users Posts: 7,182 ✭✭✭Genghiz Cohen


    First they came for our porn, but I kept silent as I did not watch it.
    Then they came for our political sites, but I kept silent as I did not read them.

    Etc.


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    #41
    fortjames
    Registered Users Posts: 44 ✭fortjames


    it should be blocked for everyone unless you want to watch it, your choice, ask to unlock it from its source


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    #42
    Noxin
    Registered Users Posts: 1,905 ✭✭✭Noxin


    This is all I have to say!


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    #43
    Mr Benevolent
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,456 ✭✭✭✭Mr Benevolent


    donvito99 wrote: »
    Won't someone please think of the children single men between the ages of 16 and 35.

    Single men? Married men pull the mickey off themselves twice as much as single men. They don't just get no sex, they get negative sex.


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    #44
    Perspectives
    Registered Users Posts: 17 ✭Perspectives


    I believe it is only a matter of time before this is implemented. It's already been discussed in the UK. Once the ball gets rolling, it'll be EU wide.

    All liberties are protected, adults will still have access. The reason they are talking about this is former methods to protect kids from seeing porn have failed.


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    #45
    Nemeses
    Registered Users Posts: 1,829 ✭✭✭Nemeses


    OP, You're having a laugh.

    Whatever the kids do on the net is the parents responsibility. I think that is straight forward enough.

    Sex Education was taught to me at the age of 11 in the school I went too. Should be applied elsewhere. Sex is not a sin! Its normal.

    Do you also want to close down or censore TV channels like Babestation and playboy?
    Do you want all the places closed down such as "The Gentlemens Club" etc
    Do you want to censor the whole world and let everyone be molly collied?


    Porn has been on the planet since humans have...


    Thats a fricken long time!


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    #46
    kunst nugget
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,375 ✭✭✭✭kunst nugget


    Dravokivich wrote: »
    Things that are opt in, are usually not very obvious or well publicised. The default should never be off, and there is an opt out for people if they want to prevent youngers from accessing it.

    I don't think it wouldn't really matter if it was an opt in or opt out system to be honest. If it's an opt out you'll sort yourself if you're a parent and if it's an opt in you'll sort yourself out if you want to look at pornography.


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    #47
    kc90
    Registered Users Posts: 364 ✭✭kc90


    Perspectives wrote: »
    Nice avoidance technique to avoid your initial illogical statement.:eek:

    You have yet to provide background to your claims. Now, I'll give you it's common sense why young children shouldn't be exposed to porn.
    What is illogical about a teenager having a tug?


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    #48
    Hoop66
    Registered Users Posts: 2,296 ✭✭✭Hoop66


    kc90 wrote: »
    Are you going to answer the question or should I assume that your opinion is enough?

    I'll *ahem* take a stab at it:

    Unrealistic sexual expectations?
    Normalisation of violence in sex?


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    #49
    Perspectives
    Registered Users Posts: 17 ✭Perspectives


    Nemeses wrote: »
    OP, You're having a laugh.

    Whatever the kids do on the net is the parents responsibility. I think that is straight forward enough.

    Sex Education was taught to me at the age of 11 in the school I went too. Should be applied elsewhere. Sex is not a sin! Its normal.

    Do you also want to close down or censore TV channels like Babestation and playboy?
    Do you want all the places closed down such as "The Gentlemens Club" etc
    Do you want to censor the whole world and let everyone be molly collied?


    Porn has been on the planet since humans have...


    Thats a fricken long time!

    Google 'brain on porn' to educate yourself. I personally don't want kids seeing porn of any kind. And hardcore/ violent porn is now widespread on the net. That's not healthy sexual development education for young teenagers now is it?


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    #50
    **Vai**
    Registered Users Posts: 1,302 ✭✭✭**Vai**


    kc90 wrote: »
    What is illogical about a teenager having a tug?

    Its not illogical, just unsafe. Most of us would have exploded as teenagers if we didn't have a tug.


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    #51
    **Vai**
    Registered Users Posts: 1,302 ✭✭✭**Vai**


    Perspectives wrote: »
    Google 'brain on porn' to educate yourself. I personally don't want kids seeing porn of any kind. And hardcore/ violent porn is now widespread on the net. That's not healthy sexual development education for young teenagers now is it?

    Its healthier for those in their late teens to see what happens rather than have it blocked from their lives as used to be the way in this country.


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    #52
    kc90
    Registered Users Posts: 364 ✭✭kc90


    Hoop66 wrote: »
    I'll *ahem* take a stab at it:

    Unrealistic sexual expectations?
    Normalisation of violence in sex?

    That's not my experience. Sounds a little like a snuff film. At least you have a reason though. Perhaps the OP does too.


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    #53
    Nemeses
    Registered Users Posts: 1,829 ✭✭✭Nemeses


    Perspectives wrote: »
    Google 'brain on porn' to educate yourself. I personally don't want kids seeing porn of any kind. And hardcore/ violent porn is now widespread on the net. That's not healthy sexual development education for young teenagers now is it?

    I'm pretty well educated thank you.

    Well, Don't let your kids watch it then.. Its pretty simple isn't it.


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    #54
    Augmerson
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,162 ✭✭✭Augmerson


    I didn't care when the government made those bank guarantees
    I didn't care when the economy totally imploded
    I didn't care when everybody started losing their jobs

    BUT I SWEAR TO GOD I WILL CUT ANYONE WHO TRIES TO TAKE MY PORN AWAY.

    I WILL CUT YOU DEEP.


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    #55
    Perspectives
    Registered Users Posts: 17 ✭Perspectives


    kc90 wrote: »
    That's not my experience. Sounds a little like a snuff film. At least you have a reason though. Perhaps the OP does too.

    Trolling?


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    #56
    kc90
    Registered Users Posts: 364 ✭✭kc90


    Perspectives wrote: »
    Trolling?

    Is that your admission? I thought it'd take you a little longer.


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    #57
    Perspectives
    Registered Users Posts: 17 ✭Perspectives


    Nemeses wrote: »
    I'm pretty well educated thank you.

    Well, Don't let your kids watch it then.. Its pretty simple isn't it.

    I'm not saying you're not educated. I'm saying to read up on this particular area, the science/ research that has been done on its effects especially in very young people. Google 'brain on porn' to find the links.


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    #58
    Hoop66
    Registered Users Posts: 2,296 ✭✭✭Hoop66


    **Vai** wrote: »
    Its healthier for those in their late teens to see what happens rather than have it blocked from their lives as used to be the way in this country.

    But "what happens" in porn, isn't remotely like "what happens" in real life.

    This is what I'm talking about - for instance, young men who think the thing to do when you reach climax is to pull out and come on your partner's face.




    Although, there was this one girl...


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    #59
    kunst nugget
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,375 ✭✭✭✭kunst nugget


    Nemeses wrote: »
    Sex Education was taught to me at the age of 11 in the school I went too. Should be applied elsewhere. Sex is not a sin! Its normal.

    You're right, sex isn't a sin and it's great that in the school you were in you received sex education at 11 - something that everyone in this country should have but in the main won't because of the Catholic ethos of most schools in this country.

    If there was to be an opt in or out system put in place in this country I'd want it brought in with mandatory sexual education in all schools.


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    #60
    mailforkev
    Registered Users Posts: 1,783 ✭✭✭mailforkev


    kunst nugget wrote: »
    Tbf, it's not about not allowing everyone else access to pornography, everyone would have the option if they wanted to look at pornography or not. You would just have to 'opt in' on whatever device you were using. So, when your teenager gets a new phone, you as the parent could set it to 'opt out'. As much as you try to police your kids with the internet, you're hardly going to be able to stand behind them 24 hours a day.

    I'm with 3 mobile network, at some point years ago I noticed that they were blocking "adult" content. The site I noticed this on actually sold clothes, not porn. I had to make a phone call to opt-in to "adult" content.

    If you have half a clue about computers it's not difficult to keep your kids away from most of it. You'll never block them from everything.

    I was a regular teenager before widespread internet access, I still saw some porn, be it magazines or videos.

    Unless your kid is some kind of porn fiend who as soon as your back is turned is trying any means necessary to access porn. In which case you have probably got bigger problems.


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    #61
    Perspectives
    Registered Users Posts: 17 ✭Perspectives


    kc90 wrote: »
    Is that your admission? I thought it'd take you a little longer.

    Ok you're definitely a troll. An obvious ploy to put me on the defensive while avoiding any real logical statements. Is that how you always debate a subject you know nothing about?


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