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Turtwig · 30-01-2015 3:35pm

Done.

Hotblack Desiato · 30-01-2015 9:53pm

Bristolscale7 wrote: »

Slight correction, that's not NYU it's CUNY

Couldn't they have chosen a less unfortunate initialism??

Gbear · 30-01-2015 10:08pm

Hotblack Desiato wrote: »

Couldn't they have chosen a less unfortunate initialism??

City Learning University Newyork General Education Site?

PopePalpatine · 30-01-2015 10:15pm

Manhattan Institute of Next Generation Education?

Hotblack Desiato · 30-01-2015 10:38pm

Cavan-Leitrim Institute of Technology :cool:

robindch · 30-01-2015 10:46pm

Shannon Higher Institute of Technology and Education(*)

(*) We used this name from time to time, back in the 80's...

Brian Shanahan · 30-01-2015 11:14pm

Hotblack Desiato wrote: »

Couldn't they have chosen a less unfortunate initialism??

For about five glorious years the IT, Tralee was known as Tralee Insititute of Technology or, you guessed it, a big TIT.

Turtwig · 30-01-2015 11:20pm

robindch wrote: »

Shannon Higher Institute of Technology and Education(*)

(*) We used this name from time to time, back in the 80's...

I thought it was NIHEL

robindch · 31-01-2015 1:33am

Turtwig wrote: »

I thought it was NIHEL

Yes, but there was also Thomond College of Education across the soccer pitch, so when the two merged in 1989, chatter down the pub suggested that the tech-heavy NIHE-L + the education-heavy Thomond should be merged under the acronym, cough, mentioned above.

shruikan2553 · 31-01-2015 1:41am

Brian Shanahan wrote: »

For about five glorious years the IT, Tralee was known as Tralee Insititute of Technology or, you guessed it, a big TIT.

I do get a laugh from the like of LYIT, DIT, CIT etc having their location at the start but if I ever see IT,<location> I automatically put it the other way to see what abbreviation they are trying to avoid.

Permabear · 31-01-2015 1:51am

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Turtwig · 31-01-2015 2:24am

robindch wrote: »

Yes, but there was also Thomond College of Education across the soccer pitch, so when the two merged in 1989, chatter down the pub suggested that the tech-heavy NIHE-L + the education-heavy Thomond should be merged under the acronym, cough, mentioned above.

Oh wow I just got the ****E acronym thing now.

My brain is slow.

BuilderPlumber · 31-01-2015 8:13am

MrPudding wrote: »

I would like to request that Permabear gets banned. If you spell his name backward, and then split it up it become clear his name is actually 'raeba Mr eP' and that makes me feel bad. I feel his ban should be longer, as his case is aggravated by the fact he tried to conceal it.

MrP

Who or what is Raeba Mr Ep?!?!?!?!?!?!?! Is this some new North Korean dictator we need to be afraid of

jank · 02-02-2015 7:50am

Why It's Socially Unacceptable To Do Anything

The Black Oil · 06-02-2015 10:52am

Unite Against Facism, oh where have we heard them before?

French far-right leader Marine Le Pen mobbed by Oxford Union protesters

Crowds of protesters gathered outside the building to denounce the controversial leader of France's far-right Front National. Her speech to gathered union members was delayed by over one hour as the angry crowd attempted to block entrances. Union officials have faced criticism for inviting Ms Le Pen to speak uninterrupted for five minutes, rather than insisting on a more traditional debate format where an opponent would have also been heard.

The disruption meant that many of those with tickets for her speech were unable to attend. Similarly the scrum outside the union meant that reporters were unable to get inside.

Yeah, let's try to censor political thought...that helps debate. At least the Union invited her.

robindch · 06-02-2015 11:14am

The Black Oil wrote: »

Yeah, let's try to censor political thought...that helps debate.

There's a fine line between, on the one hand, encouraging legitimate, honest, open debate, and on the other hand, providing cranks with free airtime - an issue we grapple with here on A+A from time to time, incidentally.

Until recently, I wasn't aware of Le Pen's modus operandi well enough to make a confident judgement on what she's like and whether the degree of responsibility she brings to public debate is worthy of the right to unlimited access to it, but now that her political outfit is being funded directly from Moscow, and a bank owned by one of Putin's friends, I have to say my sadness at hearing that her speech was interrupted or blocked is distinctly limited.

The Black Oil · 06-02-2015 11:25am

We should be scrutinising every politician's financial backing anyway.

Permabear · 06-02-2015 12:30pm

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Gbear · 06-02-2015 12:47pm

As galling as it can be to give these people the time of day, never mind a platform for their bull****, I think the best solution is always to give them enough rope to hang themselves.

I think throwing a strop and trying to block them speaking plays into their hands and creates this persecution narrative that they can use to garner sympathy from fence sitters.
Maybe there's a net benefit in a reduction of numbers of people of who will be persuaded towards fascism, but irrespective of that, I think it's immoral to try to block that discourse.

It always seems obvious when the person you're blocking is Le Pen, but it won't always be so clear cut and if you allow one group to sabotage another's right to speak, I think you're leaving the doors open for it to happen on more borderline issues.

Lefties are just as prone as right-wingers to being too insecure in their beliefs to be able to tolerate dissent. It's clearly a fundamental human trait.

Permabear · 06-02-2015 3:16pm

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Gbear · 07-02-2015 4:35pm

Bill Maher is pretty much a posterboy for threads like this.
Apparently he had a roll around in some anti-vaxx bull**** on one of his recent shows.

Given how utterly daft he can be on some issues, I can only think that when he gets things right it's totally by accident.

For a self-professed skeptic, his ability to reason is pretty shocking.

jank · 09-02-2015 6:38am

Permabear wrote: »

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Hardly a week goes by without someone from the Socialist Party of Ireland advocating some downright insane and wacky economic proposal. Perhaps we have to limit their airtime by force.

jank · 09-02-2015 6:52am

Following on with the topic of free speach and the illberal left.

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2015/01/not-a-very-pc-thing-to-say.html

His article caused a bit of a ruckus even though the author himself would be a card carrying democratic liberal.

A snippet..

It is true that liberals and leftists both want to make society more economically and socially egalitarian. But liberals still hold to the classic Enlightenment political tradition that cherishes individuals rights, freedom of expression, and the protection of a kind of free political marketplace. (So, for that matter, do most conservatives.)

The Marxist left has always dismissed liberalism’s commitment to protecting the rights of its political opponents — you know, the old line often misattributed to Voltaire, “I disapprove of what you have to say, but I’ll defend to the death your right to say it” — as hopelessly naïve. If you maintain equal political rights for the oppressive capitalists and their proletarian victims, this will simply keep in place society’s unequal power relations. Why respect the rights of the class whose power you’re trying to smash? And so, according to Marxist thinking, your political rights depend entirely on what class you belong to.

The modern far left has borrowed the Marxist critique of liberalism and substituted race and gender identities for economic ones. “The liberal view,” wrote MacKinnon 30 years ago, “is that abstract categories — like speech or equality — define systems. Every time you strengthen free speech in one place, you strengthen it everywhere. Strengthening the free speech of the Klan strengthens the free speech of Blacks.” She deemed this nonsensical: “It equates substantive powerlessness with substantive power and calls treating these the same, ‘equality.’

Well worth a read..

BuilderPlumber · 09-02-2015 10:02pm

jank wrote: »

Hardly a week goes by without someone from the Socialist Party of Ireland advocating some downright insane and wacky economic proposal. Perhaps we have to limit their airtime by force.

The problem with these guys is that they don't care about the how to implement what they say: as all they care about is saying it, having it become popular among the people and then get them votes. When they are elected, they can gladly become part of the next hodge podge government of either FF/SF and independents or FG/Labour and independents and then they can justify being in government 'for the national interest'. It will be a laugh to watch Paul Murphy defend Irish Water in 2017.

KomradeBishop · 11-02-2015 12:49am

Fantastic article here on how people - throughout the ideological spectrum - who hold conspiratorial/crank views about many topics (anti-vax, climate change denial), often hold those views due to a 'crisis of authority', i.e. (if I'm understand this right) distrust of an authority (often for good reason), whether that authority be government, religion, or even science itself:
www.salon.com/2015/02/07/anti_vaxxers_climate_deniers_and_the_crisis_of_authority

Never thought of it from that angle before, as the author ties a lot of related things together very well.

jank · 13-02-2015 3:46am

Feminist activists urge boycott of 50 shades of Grey equating the movie is akin to 'promoting' domestic abuse.

Dakota Johnson, the actress who plays Anastasia, urged people to see the film before drawing any conclusions.

"Everything that Anastasia does is completely her choice and it's consensual and no person is abused in the movie and I think it's kind of a closed-minded outlook," she said at the Berlin premiere on Wednesday.

Not ironic seeing as the target audience of the books and the movie are women in their 20's and 30's? Never mind the author is also a woman. (God help us if it were a man!)

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/carey-purcell/fifty-shades-of-grey-feminism_b_2395932.html

The unholy alliance is also getting in on the act.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/movies/2015/02/12/feminists-moralists-conservatives-slam-fifty-shades/23297675/

Feminists the new conservatives? Quite possible.
https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/tens-of-thousands-urge-boycott-of-fifty-shades-of-grey

"Feminists and social conservatives agree: Fifty Shades of Grey promotes misogyny, abuse, and manipulation, not relationships based upon mutual love and respect," said the coalition. "This film normalizes and glamorizes behaviors such as stalking, threats and physical violence. Its portrayal of relationships and sex is offensive to real life victims of domestic abuse. The film sets a particularly dangerous example for younger viewers, who may not understand that attractive, charismatic young billionaire Christian Grey is also an abusive sociopath, especially since victim/narrator Anastasia Steele continually describes and portrays him as a god."

Anyway, men are at fault and to blame again...
http://theconversation.com/fifty-shades-of-grey-is-just-an-old-fashioned-romance-thats-the-problem-37440

This is consistent with a wider cultural script in which obsessive male behaviour and men’s sense of entitlement to women is still too often legitimated, with concrete, material effects on women’s safety and lives. Ana agrees to marry Christian aged 21, and just weeks into their relationship, because he needs reassurance that she is “his”, she modifies her behaviour to contain his rage, in recognition of the maternal neglect and paedophilic abuse (by an older woman) which has brought him here. Male violence is women’s responsibility.

Turtwig · 13-02-2015 3:55am

The book it's based on depicts a disturbing abusive relationship. Definitely think it's distasteful to be released on Valentine's. Ffs like some women actually have to experience Valentine's with men along the same lines of Grey.

Links234 · 13-02-2015 4:20am

So what you're saying is Jank, never criticize or boycott something, because criticism is bad and freedom to protest is wrong?

Peregrinus · 13-02-2015 4:27am

Links234 wrote: »

So what you're saying is Jank, never criticize or boycott something, because criticism is bad and freedom to protest is wrong?

No, what you are saying, Links, is that if somebody ever takes issue with any particular criticism or any particular boycott, they can be taken as saying that criticism in general is bad and freedom to protest is wrong.

Links234 · 13-02-2015 4:38am

Peregrinus wrote: »

No, what you are saying, Links, is that if somebody ever takes issue with any particular criticism or any particular boycott, they can be taken as saying that criticism in general is bad and freedom to protest is wrong.

So in essense Peregrinus you are saying that if someone takes issue with someone taking issue over someone taking issue... where were we?

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