Supplements

gymsoldier · 17-07-2011 8:16pm

Gummy Panda wrote: »

Are supplements like multi-vits rubbish and just a waste of money? Does the body actually absorb them in such a processed cap form?

Watch from 17:20.

http://www.rxmuscle.com/videos/lifestyle/3692-vpx-nutrition-behind-the-scenes-tour-a-up-close-interview-with-owner-jack-owak-part-1-of-3.html

Gummy Panda · 17-07-2011 11:24pm

gymsoldier wrote: »

Gummy Panda wrote: »

Are supplements like multi-vits rubbish and just a waste of money? Does the body actually absorb them in such a processed cap form?

Watch from 17:20.

http://www.rxmuscle.com/videos/lifestyle/3692-vpx-nutrition-behind-the-scenes-tour-a-up-close-interview-with-owner-jack-owak-part-1-of-3.html

Thanks for the vid.

I've seen on other forums people saying most multis are absorption. Kinda hard to tell if they work too.

Hal Emmerich · 18-07-2011 12:07am

gymsoldier wrote: »

Watch from 17:20.

http://www.rxmuscle.com/videos/lifestyle/3692-vpx-nutrition-behind-the-scenes-tour-a-up-close-interview-with-owner-jack-owak-part-1-of-3.html

Web of trust blocked that from opening, it's definitely OK, yes?

BlastedGlute · 18-07-2011 8:20am

Nosleep!

I've never had a supplement cause me such a dramatic **** up in terms of my sleeping pattern. There really should be a "do not consume at least 8 hours before bedtime" wide awake and really need to be sleeping

I was training very late at 11pm it's just how it happened, but can't sleep at all. The stuff works for sure but I'll be careful about what times I consume it at from now on!

Gummy Panda · 18-07-2011 9:37am

BlastedGlute wrote: »

Nosleep!

I've never had a supplement cause me such a dramatic **** up in terms of my sleeping pattern. There really should be a "do not consume at least 8 hours before bedtime" wide awake and really need to be sleeping

I was training very late at 11pm it's just how it happened, but can't sleep at all. The stuff works for sure but I'll be careful about what times I consume it at from now on!

What time did you take it at?

Gummy Panda · 18-07-2011 11:16am

if anyone wants to try Xtend and not spend a lot, UK discount supplements are selling the small tubs for £15 incl delivery. Apple flavour is the only one left though.

gymsoldier · 18-07-2011 12:36pm

Gummy Panda wrote: »

if anyone wants to try Xtend and not spend a lot

I dont think its that expensive to use, even if your buying in Ireland, mainly because it lasts for ages. I'm spending 54cent a day on Xtend, I use 20grams during a workout, four days a week. I know some of you will say, "but thats 200 odd euro a year". I don't drink or smoke, and I know people that spend that easy on booze and smokes monthly.

But good spot on the cheap deal for Xtend

BigDuffman · 18-07-2011 1:04pm

BlastedGlute wrote: »

Nosleep!

I've never had a supplement cause me such a dramatic **** up in terms of my sleeping pattern. There really should be a "do not consume at least 8 hours before bedtime" wide awake and really need to be sleeping

I was training very late at 11pm it's just how it happened, but can't sleep at all. The stuff works for sure but I'll be careful about what times I consume it at from now on!

I'm nearly sure theres a warning on it?? But most people know that like coffee or any other stimulant its not a good idea to go downing a pre-performance drinks near bed time!!!

Disko biscuits · 18-07-2011 3:24pm

Wondering has anyone tried both of these and whic one is better?

Was just about to buy jack3d.. but then I heard on a few reviews that muscle pharm assault was MUCH better?

so if anyone has any comments please share

Bottle_of_Smoke · 18-07-2011 5:56pm

Just bought what I thought was creatine. However it turns out it is not pure creatine monohydrate.

I noticed there is 75g of carbs per 100g. Thought this odd but looked at ingredients and the main one is dextrose.

normally I'd say f*ck it but was planning on going on the primal blueprint diet. (which is compatible with creatine)

So wondering should I return this stuff - or is it still decent enough?

Gummy Panda · 18-07-2011 6:17pm

Bottle_of_Smoke wrote: »

Just bought what I thought was creatine. However it turns out it is not pure creatine monohydrate.

I noticed there is 75g of carbs per 100g. Thought this odd but looked at ingredients and the main one is dextrose.

normally I'd say f*ck it but was planning on going on the primal blueprint diet. (which is compatible with creatine)

So wondering should I return this stuff - or is it still decent enough?

what's the name of the product?

Dextrose is glucose so is probably there to spike your insulin to 'shuttle' the creatine to your muscles.

Bottle_of_Smoke · 18-07-2011 6:26pm

Gummy Panda wrote: »

what's the name of the product?

Dextrose is glucose so is probably there to spike your insulin to 'shuttle' the creatine to your muscles.

Its the "performance creatine" listed here

http://www.elinksterkstraat.nl/tuinen/sport/pe/producten_creatine.html

Its in dutch so rough translation

Precision Engineered High Performance Creatine contains simple carbohydrates in the form of dextrose.
Promotes optimal transport in muscle. This increases the blood sugar so insulin is released and creatine in the muscle is pulled for faster and effective results, even 130% better than taking creatine alone.
Promotes short-term energy reserves of creatine phosphate so that the duration of the effort can be extended.
Speeds recovery between 'sets'.
Stimulates protein synthesis and increase muscle size (by pulling water into the cells).
Reduces acidity, it can be more lactic acid before fatigue occurs.
Decreases muscle protein breakdown after intense exercise.
Recommended Use
Mix one scoop with one cup (250ml) cold water or juice. For best results, an electric blender.
Use within 20 minutes.
Ensure adequate fluid intake during and after exercise - at least six to eight glasses of water a day.
For maximum results take the following:
Phase 1 (Loading) : Drink 4 servings a day, five days long. Phase 2 (Maintenance) : Drink 1-2 servings per day, eleven weeks long. Phase 3 (Rest Period) : Four weeks of no creatine supplementation.

The above three phases can then be repeated.
Flavors
Grape
Fruits
Difference with regular creatine monohydrate
The added dextrose improves absorption. The carbohydrate is the energy value is higher and therefore probably less suitable for weight loss than any other creatine product.

seems to be along the lines ofwhat you were saying -just wondering will it mess up the paleo diet

Mellor · 19-07-2011 3:17am

Mess up the paleo diet how?

Supplements, including creatine, aren't availible to cavemen so those alone aren't paleo. Ignore the way these diets are marketed, yes there are benefits to eating whole food, and avoiding grains, but these benefits don't go away when you add one or two other things in small doses.

"Paleo" has had so made exceptinos added to the end of it that its a bit of a joke now.

bosswinger · 19-07-2011 10:01am

Hi all,

Just a quick couple of questions about some Iron Science Products and how they compare to myprotein who I have got my whey, omega 3 and multi vits from in the past.

Iron Science Whey 80% - very similar nutritional info to myprotein True Whey but a bit cheaper. My question is for people that have used it does it mix well and also whats the coconut flavor like (of course taste is subjective but any opinion is appreciated)? I love coconut and coconut flavored whey intrigued me (It's the little things in life :rolleyes:).

Omega 3 and Multi vits - How do these compare to the myprotein equivalent? They seem cheaper per serving sugestions.

I have searched internet and not found a whole pile of info on their products so anyone with experience or comments it would be very much appreciated.

Cheers!

Bottle_of_Smoke · 19-07-2011 10:01am

well basically, the supplement has a load of dextrose. so i'd be getting 80g of sugar per day from that alone.

its cool though, I traded it for pure creatine just now

Gummy Panda · 19-07-2011 10:25am

CellMass gives me a headache. Don't know if it's the CEE or flavouring system used.

Has anyone else experienced headaches from this product?

grimloch · 19-07-2011 1:51pm

bosswinger wrote: »

Iron Science Whey 80% - very similar nutritional info to myprotein True Whey but a bit cheaper. My question is for people that have used it does it mix well and also whats the coconut flavor like (of course taste is subjective but any opinion is appreciated)? I love coconut and coconut flavored whey intrigued me (It's the little things in life :rolleyes:).

Can't help you with flavours but it mixes just as well as anything I had from myprotein.

grimloch · 22-07-2011 7:40pm

Gummy Panda wrote: »

if anyone wants to try Xtend and not spend a lot, UK discount supplements are selling the small tubs for £15 incl delivery. Apple flavour is the only one left though.

Report: this stuff is outrageously tasty.

colman1212 · 24-07-2011 10:48am

grimloch wrote: »

Report: this stuff is outrageously tasty.

I just picked up a tub of this stuff downtown. Reading reviews it seems like its only useful for someone cutting? I'm trying to get stronger at the moment so on a cal surplus. Is it a waste of time taking it and if not, when is the best time to take it. I planned on taking 14grams during my workout...

Gummy Panda · 24-07-2011 12:01pm

colman1212 wrote: »

grimloch wrote: »

Report: this stuff is outrageously tasty.

I just picked up a tub of this stuff downtown. Reading reviews it seems like its only useful for someone cutting? I'm trying to get stronger at the moment so on a cal surplus. Is it a waste of time taking it and if not, when is the best time to take it. I planned on taking 14grams during my workout...

It's designed to help recovery so should help.

deadlybuzzman · 24-07-2011 10:16pm

bosswinger wrote: »

Hi all,

Just a quick couple of questions about some Iron Science Products and how they compare to myprotein who I have got my whey, omega 3 and multi vits from in the past.

Iron Science Whey 80% - very similar nutritional info to myprotein True Whey but a bit cheaper. My question is for people that have used it does it mix well and also whats the coconut flavor like (of course taste is subjective but any opinion is appreciated)? I love coconut and coconut flavored whey intrigued me (It's the little things in life :rolleyes:).

Omega 3 and Multi vits - How do these compare to the myprotein equivalent? They seem cheaper per serving sugestions.

I have searched internet and not found a whole pile of info on their products so anyone with experience or comments it would be very much appreciated.

Cheers!

After years of buying off MP I now buy off Iron Science and theres no difference in the unflavoured product-both mix well and taste fine

grimloch · 24-07-2011 10:25pm

colman1212 wrote: »

I just picked up a tub of this stuff downtown. Reading reviews it seems like its only useful for someone cutting? I'm trying to get stronger at the moment so on a cal surplus. Is it a waste of time taking it and if not, when is the best time to take it. I planned on taking 14grams during my workout...

Well the only semi-useful thing I've done with it thus far is mix a few scoops with dextrose as a mixer for a naggin of vodka when i ran out of coke in my house.

I'll probably use it post workout with my dextrose, then get my protein in a bit later. No idea if its the best use of it, probably not but it's a protocol I saw a pretty swole guy following so I'll give it a shot.

Mitch Connor · 25-07-2011 3:20am

anyone know if it is possible to get this product in ireland, or delivered to Ireland for a decent price?

http://www.gnc.com/pwr/product-reviews/GNC-PRO-PERFORMANCE/p/3867636-GNC-Pro-Performance-reg-AMP-Pre-Post-Training-Pak.html

I have had a look online but I can't find anything, but then I don't know what sites are good for supplements and stuff like that in Ireland.

If it is not possible to get it in/delivered to Ireland at a decent price - can anyone recommend a similar type of product that I can get in Ireland?

Cheers.

gymsoldier · 25-07-2011 10:13am

grimloch wrote: »

I'll probably use it post workout with my dextrose, then get my protein in a bit later. No idea if its the best use of it, probably not but it's a protocol I saw a pretty swole guy following so I'll give it a shot.

I've used it two ways thus far:

10grams Xtend + 5grams CM before workout. Then same again post workout with 50grams Dextrose, waiting 30mins, then protein.

But at the moment I drink 20grams Xtend during my workout in 1.5 litres of water.

gymsoldier · 25-07-2011 10:15am

PM me, I'm heading to the states this Friday for two weeks.

colman1212 · 25-07-2011 11:54am

I put 20g in water today and drank it during my workout. Is this stuff supposed to give you energy because I had a hell of a lot more energy/focus that usual. PR'd and did a massive session. Its prob just placebo...

Mitch Connor · 25-07-2011 12:17pm

cheers for the offer - in the states myself at the moment, so I can grab a couple of boxes myself before I leave - looking to see if I can restock when I get back home.

Cheers for the offer though.

Tekken · 25-07-2011 5:25pm

Does anyone know if Myprotein tribulus pro is any good

deadlybuzzman · 25-07-2011 9:42pm

Tekken wrote: »

Does anyone know if Myprotein tribulus pro is any good

nah save your money-tribs never backed up it claims when studied, might work as a placebo though!

Gummy Panda · 25-07-2011 10:55pm

Ever buy a flavour of protein powder that you regret?

Choc Peanut Butter.. what was I thinking

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