[dubhthach]

Originally Posted by cormacocomhrai

I thought the Black and Tan was a Nike runner

Ben&Jerry's Ice-cream as well!

[cormacocomhrai]

Originally Posted by dubhthach

Ben&Jerry's Ice-cream as well!

Do they make ice-cream? I thought they were hurlers. Sorry

[dubhthach]

Originally Posted by cormacocomhrai

Do they make ice-cream? I thought they were hurlers. Sorry

That took me a minute, until I resorted to google/wiki:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben_O'Connor
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerry_O%27Connor

[stretchtex]

I was raised in the McMullen, McGloin land grant area of south Texas. The Spanish recruited Irish Catholics to settle the area. My ancestors were McMorrows and Dolans from Leitrim. My last name is Gilmore...not sure how prevalent a surname that is in Ireland. Lots of folks in the US believe that if a name doesn't start with an O' or Mc it's not Irish.

[dubhthach]

Originally Posted by stretchtex

I was raised in the McMullen, McGloin land grant area of south Texas. The Spanish recruited Irish Catholics to settle the area. My ancestors were McMorrows and Dolans from Leitrim. My last name is Gilmore...not sure how prevalent a surname that is in Ireland. Lots of folks in the US believe that if a name doesn't start with an O' or Mc it's not Irish.

Two seperate possible origins for Gilmore in Ireland

Mac GIOLLA MHUIRE—IV—M'Gilleworry, M'Gilmurry, M'Gilmore, MacIlmurray, MacElmurray, MacKilmurray, MacMurray, Kilmurry, Kilmary, Kilmore, Gilmore, Gilmour, Gilmor, Gilmer, Murry, Murray; 'son of Giolla Mhuire' (servant of Mary); the name of a family in Co. Down who were chiefs of Ui Derca Cein, in the barony of Castlereagh. They are a branch of the family of O'Morna, formerly lords of Lecale, being descended from Giolla Mhuire Ó Morna, lord of Lecale, whose death is recorded in the Annals of the Four Masters at the year 1276. The name is also in use in Scotland, where it is anglicised Morrison (i.e., Muire's son).

Mac GIOLLA MHIR—IV—M'Gilver, M'Gilmer, Gilmer, Gilmor; 'son of Giolla mear' (the merry, lively youth); the name of an old family of the Ui Fiachrach race in Co. Sligo, formerly seated in the townland of Finnure, in the barony of Tireragh.

Lots of Irish names starting with "Gill" -- anglisced from irish word Giolla (Boy, Servant). The word actually found it's way into english (via Scots Gaidhlig) in the form of "Ghillie suit" (What Snipers wear to blend in)

With regards to Leitrim there's a good chance then that your McMorrow ancestors are:

Mac MUIREADHAIGH—IV—M'Murrey, M'Morrye, MacMurry, MacMorry, MacMorray, MacMurray, (MacMorrow), Murry, Murray, (Morrow); 'son of Muireadhach' (belonging to the sea, a mariner; also a lord); an old Breifney surname, still common in the district, but generally anglicised MacMorrow.

(Kingdom of Bréifne included Leitrim and Cavan). Though another possibility is:

Mac MURCHADHA—IV—M'Murroghowe, M'Moroghoe, M'Murphewe, MacMurrough, MacMurrow, Morrowson, Murrough, Morrough, Morrogh, Murrow, Morrow, Murphy; 'son of Murchadh' (sea-warrior, a very common Irish personal name); the name of three distinct families in Ireland, viz.: Mac Murchadha of Leinster, Mac Murchadha of Muinntear Birn in Ulster, and Mac Murchadha of Clann Tomaltaigh in Connacht. The MacMurroughs of Leinster derive their name and descent from Murchadh, the grandfather of Dermot MacMurrough, and were long the most powerful family in Leinster, and one of the most powerful in Ireland. From Domhnall Caomhánach, the son of Dermot MacMurrough, they took the surname of Caomhánach (which see), which is that by which they have been known for centuries. The Ulster family of Mac Murchadha was seated in Tyrone, and at the end of the 16th century was numerous in that county. Murphy appears to be the anglicised form, at least, in many instances; O'Donovan gives it as MacMurray, which I have failed to verify. The Connacht family of this name was seated in Co. Roscommon.

[Cork boy 55]

Originally Posted by stretchtex

I was raised in the McMullen, McGloin land grant area of south Texas. The Spanish recruited Irish Catholics to settle the area. My ancestors were McMorrows and Dolans from Leitrim. My last name is Gilmore...not sure how prevalent a surname that is in Ireland. Lots of folks in the US believe that if a name doesn't start with an O' or Mc it's not Irish.

Our current 2-IC is a Gilmore
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eamon_Gilmore

[cormacocomhrai]

Interesting that one branch of the Gilmores originated in Co. Down. The Gilmores, Protestant IRA men from Dublin in the period 1920s-1940s, were originally from Portadown which isn't exactly a million miles away. I wonder were they part of a branch of that family.

[pinkmanemily]

Dear Cormacocomhrai, Just found your e-mail on the info of Pinkman/ Maguire name change. I have been trying for years to connect both names. I started out with info from a Frank Pinkman, a school teacher from Canada, in the 1980's. He is either living back in England or has passed away. I could send this info to you if you need it. He thought that the group I'am from, Ak-Mo line of Pinkman's, was from the 1812 James Pinkman in Canada, at first I though it was the 1845 James Pinkman that came from Ireland to Ak, but now I'am going back to Frank Pinkman records with his notes of James Pinkman, 1812 Canada. Do you have ANY info that might help me in what direction to go, search. Frank Pinkman was born in Ireland and did attent school in Ireland. He work on the USA Pinkman's for years. I do thank him for all of his hard work, time and sharing. Thank you, Darlena Pinkman Baldwin -email- emily005@centurytel.net

[cormacocomhrai]

Hi Darlena, check your email