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Cheltenham preview nights

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,335 ✭✭✭✭UrbanSea


    It won't be 21s on Thursday. Trinity Horse Racing Society have organised it apparently,hence why it's free in


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,451 ✭✭✭Overthelast


    Cheltenham Preview Night in aid of DAFA, Salthill Hotel, March 5, 8pm
    Mullholland Bookmakers/Racing Post


    Summary below . There was some chap recording on video so it may appear on web. Nothing wild revealed

    Chair - Alan Byrne (AB)
    Panel:
    Davy Russell (DR)
    Patrick Mullins (PM)
    Derek O’Connor (DOC)
    George McDonagh (GMD)
    Paul Kealy (PK)
    Barney Curley(BC)

    Tuesday
    Supreme:
    DR- Midnight Game (but if you were going strictly on ratings, Darlan)
    PM – Midnight Game
    DOC - Darlan
    GMD - Steps to Freedom
    PK – Steps to Freedom (Darlan, last race when he fell was slow pace, won’t find anything off bridle in fast run Supreme)
    BC – Tetlami

    Arkle
    DR- Sprinter Sacre – the best arkle on ratings & SS the best he’s ever seen
    PM –Al Ferof (people getting carried away with SS)
    DOC - Sprinter Sacre (the best natural chaser he has seen, hill no bother, he’s “special”)
    GMD – Blackstairmountain as al;ternative to SS (but had second thoughts following comments from PM)
    PK – Cue Card
    BC – Sprinter Sacre

    Champion Hurdle
    DR- Hurricane Fly (none of the rest good enough)
    PM –Hurricane Fly (not as good a race this year)
    DOC - Hurricane Fly
    GMD - Hurricane Fly
    PK – Binocular
    BC – Hurricane Fly

    Wednesday
    RSA

    DR- Bog Warrior NR but runs Naas Sunday; Invictus (£60K bonus, A King a Scotmans & you know how much they like money!)
    PM –Sir Des Champs (one of the bets of the festival)
    DOC - First Lieutenant (gave pick before PM)
    GMD – First Lieutenant(gave pick before PM)
    PK – Bobs Worth
    BC – Sir Des Champs (Wants Grand Crus to run in GC )

    Neptune
    DR- Simonsig
    PM –BB going for 3m so Simonsig
    DOC – Simonsig (nap of meeting)
    GMD - Simonsig
    PK – Monksland
    BC – Simonsig

    Queen Mother – All SE
    Champion Bumper
    DR- Sceptical of Irish form, nothing stands out, look for fresh horse with 1 or 2 runs max under belt
    PM –Moscow Mannon (Un Atout not going)
    DOC – Champagne Fever (gave pick before PM)
    GMD - Moscow Mannon
    PK – Royal Guardsman
    BC – No opinion

    Thursday
    Ryanair
    DR- Noble Price but irish record poor in race (and had a side bet with PK giving him RT & Poquelin – said he’d finish ahead of those horses )
    PM –Rubi Light
    DOC – Noble Prince
    GMD – Great Endeavour – referred to PP chase form & previous winners – trial race
    PK – Poquelin w/e
    BC – Albertas Run

    World Hurdle
    DR- BB
    PM –If Thousand Stars goes here, might go well but may well end up in CH on route to Aintree
    DOC – Oscar Whisky
    GMD - NA
    PK – BB
    BC – BB

    Friday

    Triump
    DR- terrible race - this is for flat horses – no interest
    PM – /
    DOC – Hobbs napped Sadlers Hall at preview last night so he’ll go with him
    GMD – Grumeti
    PK – Balder Success
    BC – Impossible race, no interest

    Gold Cup
    DOC - Synchronised
    PM – Synchronised (very under-rated)
    PK - Synchronised
    DR – Burton Port (he’s an improved horse this year, seems to have sparked into life)
    GMD – Weird Al ew
    BC – Grand Crus (5 secs faster than LR at Kempton)

    Charity Bets
    DOC Simonsig/Mount Benbulben
    PM Boston Bob
    PK Monksland
    AB Simonsig
    DR Burton Port ew
    GMD Great Endeavour ew
    BC Simonsig


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,408 ✭✭✭ft9


    Do ye all bring notepads/pens to the previews or are they available on the night?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,335 ✭✭✭✭UrbanSea


    I'd say to bring your own.



    So who here is going to the one in Cafe en Seine on Thurs? Was chatting to Gav,think he is


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,173 ✭✭✭hucklebuck


    I brought a notepad.

    I won't be going to Cafe Insane Urban, probably €6 a pint too so bring your hip flask :).


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  • Registered Users Posts: 254 ✭✭culline


    Yup will be an expensive night, cheeky nagan! Free finger food also!


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,013 ✭✭✭Hulk Hands


    I'll go i'd say Urban. Only chance to get to one now I can't get to Leopardstown tomorrow night


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,962 ✭✭✭✭Gavin "shels"


    UrbanSea wrote: »

    So who here is going to the one in Cafe en Seine on Thurs? Was chatting to Gav,think he is

    Me and my mate are by the looks of it.
    Hulk Hands wrote: »
    I'll go i'd say Urban. Only chance to get to one now I can't get to Leopardstown tomorrow night

    Can't make there myself, but my mate is heading along so hopefully get some info off him and post it up.


  • Moderators Posts: 8,701 ✭✭✭x PyRo


    Got this from LongshotBetting.com, written by a good mate of mine.
    Coral Cheltenham Preview Night; Loose Cannon Club, London; Tuesday 6th March

    Tonight was my first “preview night” of any kind and it was an enjoyable night that’s for sure, for this “invite only” occasion. A panel of four were the main players in discussion. These were Nick Luck (NL), Channel 4 Racing and RacingUK presenter; Simon Clare (SC), Head of PR at Coral; Mark “The Couch” Winstanley (MH), from the Racing Post and Paddy Brennan (PB), who arrived late after returning from riding at Exeter. All 27 races were discussed, albeit some briefly and I’ll go through them in chronological order, as the panel also did bar the exception of the Gold Cup, which was left until last.

    Tuesday


    Supreme Novices Hurdle

    The Supreme Novices Hurdle opened the discussion, with MW vehemently opposed to Galileo’s Choice, mainly due to the poor record of Dermot Weld at the Festival alongside that he believed that Weld was merely using Cheltenham as a “schooling session for Galway”. MW advised giving this race a miss altogether. SC commented on the shortening price of Darlan, possibly due to owner JP McManus claiming it was his NAP of the Festival. SC also put in good mentions for Tetlami from the same Nicky Henderson yard, along with Galileo’s Choice, which provided the first of many short and lively debates with MW regarding Dermot Weld. At a bigger price, NL suggested the Charlie Longsdon trained Vulcanite as a nice each-way wager, his belief being that his run last time at Newbury was disappointing due to incorrect jockey tactics. PB supported NL’s views regarding Vulcanite, and was very complimentary regarding work he’d done on the horse at home, using the word “unbelievable”.

    Arkle Trophy

    The Arkle contains the highly touted Sprinter Sacre and all four of the panel agreed that he’s going to be very difficult to beat. SC suggested that on-course layers will be very tempted to get stuck in to this favourite and evens on-course might not be a complete fantasy, a view corroborated by his colleague in the audience, James Knight. MW sternly rubbished suggestions that Sprinter Sacre would fail to get up the Cheltenham hill, and quickly went on to say that Ruby Walsh for top jockey was his NAP of the festival, along with Blackstairmountain in the w/o favourite market in the Arkle not being a bad shout. Both NL and PB also agreed that barring accidents Sprinter Sacre could be very difficult to beat.

    JLT Handicap Chase

    MW threw up a few horses in this race, including The Package who has been off for a long while but has been well-supported. Penny Max too as a NRNB play, especially if the ground comes up soft [was pulled out at Ascot as ground said too fast a couple of weeks ago]. MW also put in a good word for Tullamore Dew, who was just touched off at that Ascot meeting and he wouldn’t put anyone off backing Quantitativeeasing, NL stating that he needed to get in the first 4 to get a place for the National. NL further added a good mention of Lie Forrit, a favourite of a colleague of his and he believed he was a similar kind of horse to that of Chief Dan George, and Lie Forrit would prove to be well-handicapped over fences. SC provided a trend that winners tended to be rated 143 or less, and thus he thought Tullamore Dew might go well. SC also had reservations regarding current favourite Hold On Julio, as Wayne Hutchinson had concerns regarding the horse’s jumping.

    Champion Hurdle

    This was another race where the race seemingly revolves around one horse, that being in this instance Hurricane Fly. In this case, the panel wasn’t unanimous in their support for the Willie Mullins trained horse. NL suggested Binocular as being a “great each-way price” at 5/1 and a “danger to all” if his form of his win in this race two years ago. SC was less impressed with Binocular, stating him as “unexciting” and suggesting that a possible betting plan of action would be to wait for the day regarding backing Hurricane Fly, as it is likely that the bookmakers may try to get after him on-course. PB thought Hurricane Fly would win barring accidents, whilst MW was similarly impressed, especially after his last win at Leopardstown. Other bets suggested in this race was that by SC of Oscars Well and a place bet on Overturn, whilst MW also liked the chance of Rock on Ruby in the w/o favourite market, alongside a tricast including Hurricane Fly, Rock on Ruby and Thousand Stars.

    Cross Country Chase

    This race was mentioned only very briefly, with PB quickly quashing any suggestion he’d want to ride in this race. SC mentioned that Richard Johson believed that Balthazar King was his best chance at the Festival in this race. My feelings of that horse would be that he’d need fairly quick ground to play a part in the finish, which with the current forecast isn’t that likely.

    David Nicholson Mares Hurdle

    Another race where the market revolves around one horse, that being Quevega. PB will likely ride Terre Du Vent but claimed Quevega to be a certainty. SC suggested the only horse that could beat Quevega would be Unaccompanied (bringing about another short debate regarding the Cheltenham Festival record of Dermot Weld) but the market vibes were suggesting she wouldn’t line up. MW put up Kentford Grey Lady, a progressive horse who he claimed was given a poor ride by Jack Doyle last time, as a place bet, but that Quevega would win.

    Centerary

    SC and MW both mentioned the gamble on Triolo D’Arlene, who allegedly was tipped by Nicky Henderson himself as his NAP of the Festival, and there were reports of said horse working like a 150 rated animal. SC also found the Irish trained Slieveardagh interesting, whilst MW also threw the Tony Martin trained Nearest The Pin into the mix, who he’d received a positive report for. NL liked Shot From The Hip, whom he felt was well-handicapped on his form over timber and at 10/1, had slipped under the radar. PB suggested Ackertac, who had finished behind Triolo D’Arlene at Ascot earlier this year, as having been “set-up” for this contest by his old boss Nigel Twiston-Davies.

    Wednesday


    NH Chase

    MW suggested Allee Garde as being one of his best bets of the festival, feeling it should be a much shorter price than it currently is. SC commented on the market support for Harry the Viking, along with the low-profile campaign over fences of Oscar Dan Dan also being of interest. SC also liked Teaforthree as he would stay the trip solidly. NL felt that Alfie Spinner was Nick Williams’ best chance of a winner at the Festival and that he should go well upped in trip.

    Neptune Investments Hurdle

    MW was of the view that Boston Bob would win any race he goes for, but market signals were suggesting that BB was going to go elsewhere, and that the 5/2 on Simonsig at the time was a fantastic NRNB investment. It was also stated Irish P2P rider Derek O’Connor at another Cheltenham Preview night, had suggested that Simonsig was “banker material” having his experience with the horse in the past, NL adding that he’s bred for the trip and it will likely turn out to be his best distance and that the race itself would be fairly thin if Boston Bob didn’t show.

    RSA Chase

    Will Grand Crus turn up here or in the Gold Cup? SC suggested the market vibes were pointing to the latter. If lining up in this race though, it’s probable that the bookmakers will again want to take on the favourite anyway and SC stated Bobs Worth as having an obvious chance, fitting the stats nicely. He also added that the huge gamble in Sire Des Champs meant there was very little value in the price currently. MW disagreed entirely, stating Sir Des Champs to be an “aeroplane” and having an excellent chance, shown especially by how far he’d come from the rear last time out, later going on to give it as his charity bet. MW felt that Grand Crus should be given a crack at the Gold Cup.

    Queen Mother Champion Chase

    MW brought up the poor record of older horses in this contest, leading him to have sided with Finian’s Rainbow as an each-way wager, although apart from the age stat, he found it difficult to knock the chances of Sizing Europe. NL was keener on the chances of Finian’s Rainbow than MW, while also questioning why Henrietta Knight doesn’t give a chance to Somersby in this race. SC agreed, saying he’d run Somersby as it was a pretty poor race in truth, especially with the likes of Big Zeb towards the front of the market, who he felt was regressing badly from top level competition. He felt though that Evens or better about Sizing Europe was worth a bet. MW also added a possible match bet in this contest, that Finians Rainbow would beat Big Zeb.

    Coral Cup

    SC quoted a stat that no horse higher than 147 had won the event, which would rule out some of the big players in the market. He however, gave no specific advice about what to back, suggesting you should follow the money on the day of the race. MW would have liked Our Father if lining up, but he goes elsewhere and he gave a small mention to Third Intention after an impressive success in the Spirit Hurdle.

    Fred Winter

    PB claimed he’d have no ride in this contest, and stated that Vendor would be difficult to beat in any case. Vendor was the topic of much the discussion on this race, with reports of the Alan King horse working well alongside much higher rated animals in Balder Succes. Wayne Hutchinson claimed he couldn’t be beaten off a mark of 129, but SC hasten to add that the Fred Winter often has many well-handicapped animals involved that could go off at big prices. MW believed that Vendor could be a difficult ride and that might find him out at Cheltenham, even comparing him to the frustrating Olofi. MW put up Fire Fighter as an alternative to Vendor, especially as Alan King had an excellent trio of runners in this race last year and you shouldn’t be put off by any second-fiddle jockey bookings, although he was concerned with said horse’s jumping last time out. MW also suggested Musawama from Gordon Elliott’s yard, who’d appreciate the likely ground being out of Azamour and he won’t have been seen to the best of his ability running on softer surfaces.

    Champion Bumper

    SC said the market was wide open, but had heard reports that Fickle Fortune was “very special”, a comment also corroborated by MW. MW thought market principle Moscow Mannon wasn’t a very likely winner, putting up a suggestion in the John Ferguson trained New Years Eve as the best of the English horses. Both NL and PB liked Royal Guardsman after his Ascot win, and the former suggested he thinks this race will go to a British trained runner. A couple of audience members (including Twitter member “kingofbumpers”) suggested Cool George as their fancy, although PB thought that he wouldn’t be running.

    Thursday


    Jewson Chase

    Peddlers Cross was confirmed for this race only a couple of days ago and all four of the panel weren’t too keen on his chances, PB being concerned with his jumping and his movement when last seen at Kempton, while SC was also worried with “why” they had decided the switch so late, did they just believe that Sprinter Sacre couldn’t be beaten? Coral’s were likely going to lay top price about Peddlers, with both PB and SC, liking the chances of Champion Court. MW liked Cristal Bonus, although he was unsure to how strong the Kempton race actually was, while putting good mentions in for Call the Police (ew) if the rain arrived. Taking a similar view to that of Coral, MW stated Peddlers Cross as his lay of the meeting.

    Pertempts Hurdle

    PB was adamant throughout that Sivola De Sivola had an excellent chance in this race, especially with the NRNB concession now in place as there are doubts to whether he’ll get in. From what you could see, he felt this horse had a huge shout and that this horse was a “serious talent” after an eye-catching run last time. MW thought Our Father had an excellent chance also, as he believed he’d go for this race and that Sweet My Lord also had claims. SC spoke about their being a big move for Jetson, but he obviously wasn’t too worried as he offered a special price of 10/1 on the night.

    Ryanair Chase

    PB liked Noble Prince in this race, and wasn’t really convinced by Riverside Theatre. SC thought otherwise, liking Riverside Theatre, especially with Medermit possibly going elsewhere. Great Endeavour was another where a fair case could be made, with MW not sure whether he could handle it at the top level. MW wasn’t particularly involved in this race, stating it was a hard one to call but if he had to, he’d go Noble Prince.

    World Hurdle

    Big Bucks is unbeatable according to the current odds but MW thought there was a chance he could be turned over, putting up Dynaste in opposition at 14/1, further adding that Big Bucks is getting on a bit now and sometime soon, bad luck in-running will fall his way. Dynaste was stated by MW as a decent trading proposition in-play, especially as he consistently trades much shorter. PB thought Oscar Whisky would stay the 3 mile trip, but still wouldn’t have enough to beat Big Bucks, although he was glad Oscar Whisky lined up as it added another plausible rival to the favourite. SC thought similar, suggesting Big Bucks should be 1/4, and his colleague in the audience James Knight suggesting 1/5 would be a more apt price.

    Byrne Group Plate

    PB had been reliably told that Salut Flo had worked very well on a racecourse gallop at Exeter recently, but obviously didn’t want to say who he had heard it from (it wasn’t Conor O’Farrel). MW jokingly suggested that they’d been working in the dark, possibly even “in Guernsey”. MW went on to say that he’d love Hunt Ball to win, especially as he enjoyed Anthony Knott as a character in racing, adding that he felt Crackaway Jack and Divers were possibly worthy of investment. SC also thought Divers was worth a bet, especially with AP McCoy on board. SC also said that Notus De La Tour would likely show in this contest, as one of his co-workers had a share in the horse and this was the target.

    Kim Muir

    MW thought Up The Beat was capable of running a big race, with NL thinking that Midnight Appeal was still under the radar after it’s win at Sandown. PB thought this was a weak race and Faasel was at least reliable. He also felt that Helpston was overpriced, merely due to the fact that it was Pam Sly training, rather than a big-name. SC reported the market as pretty quiet, and that he’d heard that Faasel was working well at home.

    Friday


    Triumph Hurdle

    MW thought that Grumeti was bombproof before the scare today regarding his lameness, although it’s fully expected he’ll be fine for the Festival itself. He also liked Shadow Catcher, as his jockey had gone too soon last time out and he was expecting a better run. PB rides Baby Mix, who’s been brilliant but with one big blip. He needs good ground but the impression is that he’s still a serious horse, but Grumeti still stands as the one to beat. SC thought that punters shouldn’t get too adventurous with bigger priced selections, as those at the forefront of the market have a good record. NL went against this, feeling that Hollow Tree was too big a price, his defeat last time being excused as he went off too quick last time.

    County Hurdle

    MW thought an Imperial Cup/County Hurdle double for Ted Spread wasn’t impossible and thought the current price for the County Hurdle wasn’t a bad price NRNB. He also found the money for Snap Tie interesting, especially given the amount of time he’s been off the track. NL thought Citizenship “has a stone in hand”, whilst PB “wouldn’t swap Olofi” for any horse in the race, which created a debate regarding how genuine Olofi was. PB felt he was just a bit quirky, similar to Pigeon Island and that he felt he knew the right way to ride him. SC confirmed that Coral had laid loads for Snap Tie, but didn’t seem too concerned.

    Albert Bartlett Novice Hurdle

    SC said the vibes were that this would be where Boston Bob would run, and that they’d been an interesting move for Mount Benbulben. Lovecen was seen to be a “really likeable type”, but still,the market was suggesting that Boston Bob would go off a short-price. MW thought that the 9/4 was worth taking now, and that sort of price would be one of the best bets of the festival. PB further stated his fondness of Sivola De Sivola, suggesting if he didn’t get in the Pertempts then he’d go here, feeling that wherever he went, he had the ability to run to a level of around a mark of 145.

    Cheltenham Gold Cup

    SC stated that Long Run had been eased out to 7/4, especially with plenty of negative vibes about and the fact that no-one was backing. Kauto Star had “rolled” today, which was a positive. PB wasn’t keen on the chances of Kauto Star at all, feeling (as a Gold Cup winning jockey) that preparation had to go perfectly for you to have a chance of winning the contest, and after Kauto’s fall (which he’d heard had been “awful”). He felt Long Run was a certainty barring accidents, and just hopes that Kauto Star returns from the race safe. MW also couldn’t have Kauto Star at all, “if he can’t win at 11, how can he at 12?” He thought Grand Crus was the best horse in the race, although PB disagreed and thought it would come too soon in his career. A chance was also given to Weird Al due to his impressive record when fresh, but NL and PB both thought Weird Al lacked resolution in a battle, which wouldn’t stand him in good stead for the race. Further questions by the audience led to What A Friend being mentioned as a possible each-way alternative, especially now Burton Port’s value had pretty much disappeared, and the likes of Quel Espirit being “an awful price”.

    Foxhunters Chase

    Both MW and PB both agreed that ex-handicappers such as Chapoturgeon who had raced at a high level shouldn’t be allowed to run here, as it should be a race for the smaller yards to compete in. NL and SC both liked Salsify.

    Martin Pipe Conditional Hurdle

    PB had the impression that there may be up to 10 runners from David Pipe, one put forward by SC being that of Street Entertainer. MW thought that the Bourne/Smad Place form-line was a good one, and he expected both to be fighting it out near the finish. NL ended the discussion on this race by saying that none of them really had a clue. PB hoped that Sivola De Sivola wouldn’t line up in this race (he obviously can’t ride him in this one).

    Grand Annual

    SC felt Toubab had a good chance here, but MW disagreed completely, saying that he wouldn’t get up the hill. He put forward Kumbeshwar instead. NL reiterated his belief that Shot From The Hip had a chance in whatever race he showed up in, also giving a fair chance to Ferdy Murphy’s De Boitron. PB confirmed this, saying he had spoke to Ferdy Murphy and had felt that De Boitron was his best chance of the entire Festival, and especially with the likes of Divers also running during the week, was a fairly strong comment to make.

    Panel Charity Bets


    Simon Clare – Champion Court in the Jewson

    Paddy Brennan – Sivola De Sivola in Pertempts Hurdle

    Nick Luck – Cristal Bonus in the Jewson

    Mark Winstanley – Sire Des Champs in the RSA

    Overall, it was an enjoyable experience for someone who hadn’t been to a Festival Preview night before, and would recommend attending to anyone in the near future, especially if you have a particular strong fancy for the Festival, as it’s entirely possible that a bookmaker may give you a better price on that night. One of the biggest impressions looking to the Festival was how excited Paddy Brennan was regarding Sivola De Sivola’s chances. He looked gutted when it was even mentioned that he might not ride him if he missed the cut on his first two planned engagements and if there was one horse to take from the night, it would be that. The unanimous opposition to Peddlers Cross was also interesting, along with the repeated assertion that bookmakers are likely going to try and take on the short price favourites in Big Bucks, Hurricane Fly etc on the day. It’s an obvious point to remember that these are just the opinions of four people in the racing industry, and shouldn’t be seen as the “be all and end all”, but it provides an interesting discussion nonetheless, and I hope the above has been of use to you in some regard, or merely just an interesting read!


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,340 ✭✭✭sting60


    x PyRo wrote: »
    Got this from LongshotBetting.com, written by a good mate of mine.
    Whats going on the whore of the previews was not in attendants.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,340 ✭✭✭sting60


    Hulk Hands wrote: »
    Jese he's a real preview night whore this year isnt he. Seems to have been in every single report i've read
    Sent your quote about Davy to a friend of mine who has sent it to a jockey,im told they fell around the place laughing and are going to take the piss out of him.Will keep you posted.


  • Registered Users Posts: 154 ✭✭shaggykev


    I've uploaded some of the videos from Monday nights preview in Salthill Hotel fi any of ye are interested.
    http://johnmulhollandbookmaker.blogspot.com/

    Here's Hector


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,669 ✭✭✭Colonel Sanders


    What time does it start in Leopardstown tonight?


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,408 ✭✭✭ft9


    7.30 sharp.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,335 ✭✭✭✭UrbanSea


    Hey 9 are you going to one of them?


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,408 ✭✭✭ft9


    UrbanSea wrote: »
    Hey 9 are you going to one of them?

    Nope. What are they going to say only Sprinter, Bucks, Sizing, Hurricane, Quevega, Long Run look like they will win?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,669 ✭✭✭Colonel Sanders


    Did anyone here actually get the 6/4 sizing Europe at the Leopardstown preview last night?

    Pathetic carry on from spoils but I'd expect nothing less from that shower


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,335 ✭✭✭✭UrbanSea


    I'm going to the free one tonight cos I'm a hero.

    I'll be wearing a white t shirt with a photo of Urban Sea on the front of it that I got specially made. I wear it on some nights out, girls seem to think it's weird???????


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,706 ✭✭✭premierstone


    UrbanSea wrote: »
    I'm going to the free one tonight cos I'm a hero.

    I'll be wearing a white t shirt with a photo of Urban Sea on the front of it that I got specially made. I wear it on some nights out, girls seem to think it's i'm weird???????

    FYP ;)


  • Registered Users Posts: 295 ✭✭mccarte2


    Any reports going around from Leop last night?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,669 ✭✭✭Colonel Sanders


    mccarte2 wrote: »
    Any reports going around from Leop last night?

    I'll stick up a few comments when I get home this evening.

    Willie said Boston Bob is "out of the ordinary" & is as good as anything they've ever sent over. No decision about which race but I definitely felt he was leaning towards the 3 miler


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,335 ✭✭✭✭UrbanSea


    FYP ;)
    Omg so untrue


  • Registered Users Posts: 18 ms1


    Got this this morning...............

    Leopardstown Cheltenham Preview
    Panel:
    Tom Segal (TS)
    Davy Russell (DS)
    Willie Mullins (WM)
    Anthony Bromley (AB)
    Paudie Hassett(PH)
    Tuesday
    Supreme Novices
    TS: Midnight Game(10/1). He is lukewarm on Darlan(5/1). Doesn’t know much about Steps to Freedom(6/1), altho he was a good group flat horse.
    WM: Midnight Game didn’t work aswell this week as he had hoped.
    DR: He will give Midnight Game a chance to improve before he decides whether to ride him. Holds Trifolium (14/1) in high regard
    AB: Best English horse is Tetlami (14/1). He is not convinced of Darlan. Montbazon (10/1) is in sparkling form.
    PH: No tip, wide open affair
    Arkle
    DR:Huge Sprinter Sacre fan.He had a wind op after the festival last year.Can’t look beyond him.
    WM:Sprinter Sacre has only won on flat tracks but admits he looks a very good horse .He said Blackstairmountain has no chance.
    AB:Said SS is too short and that a small field will be a negative for him.
    TS:SS is going to win by a fence.Different class.One horse who can have an impact is Menorah.Granted he can’t jump but Hobbs said he is great nick.
    PH:SS win. Big negative on Cue Card. No chance.
    Champion Hurdle
    WM:Hurricane Fly in great form.Did a great piece of work on the gallops the other day.Binocular and Zarkandar huge challengers.
    AB:Bincoluar in great shape.Said Zarkandar will stay and Overturn will ensure a strong gallop.
    TS:Zarkandar won’t like the track.As he won on the old course last year,where as the champion hurdle in on the new course.He can’t have him.HF to win with Oscars Wells to place.
    DR:HF will not be beaten
    PH: Binocular no chance. He won a champion hurdle by beating Celestial Halo and lost the other year to Punjabi. Zarkandar also has no chance.
    Cross Country Chase
    WM: Uncle Junior will love the trip. Patrick said Scotsirish was going really well last time until badly hampered.Both will love the ground. On a side note, he said Quevega made a bad mistake whilst schooling the other day but is in tip top shape.
    Wednesday
    Neptune
    TS: Was at a preview night in adare on Sunday and Derek O’Connor said Simonsig was the best horse he’s ever ridden.
    DR:Likes make your mark as thinks Willie will run Bostonbob in the Albert Bartlett.Said that Colm Murray has Bostonbob as his nap of the festival.
    WM:Said Bostonbob looks out of the ordinary.He will make his decision regarding the race next week.Make your mark did some lovely work at home.He hasn’t lost faith with Seus les Seux
    PH:Big hype about Simonsig,but he thinks it’s a massive lay.If money is anything to go by,Bostonbob goes for the Albert Bartlett.
    RSA
    DR: Favours running First Lieutenant in this.Said he burst a blood vessel in Fairyhouse last time and that he hated the track.Draw a line in that run.
    WM:Sir des Champs in great form.He gave the impression,he’d run him in the Jewson though.
    AB:He bough Bobs Worth for Nicky Henderson.Loves Cheltenham,better going left handed.Said Grand Crus will go for this in his opinion.Saw Paul Nicholl’s horse Joint Together last week and he looked a picture.
    TS:Joint Together no chance.Huge First Lieutenant fan.Very impressed with his Cheltenham win last year.Thinks Sir des Champs is the unknown.Davy will give good indication when he picks his ride.
    PH:First Lieutenants form looks good.Likes Invictus.
    Chamption Chase:
    AB:Sizing Europe banker
    TS:Sizing
    DR:Sizing Europe,but mentioned that Colm Murphy is very good at getting a hrose ready for one day.
    WM:Sizing
    PH:Taking on sizing as he will never forgive him for losing his champion hurdle flop 3 years ago.
    Champion Bumper
    WM:Champagne Fever did a great piece of work yesterday.Moscow Mannion good e/w
    DR:Village Vick
    TS:Likes Tizzard horse Royal Guardsman
    PH: Wide open.Sir Johnson good e/w value. Conceded that it’s a race for the bookies
    AB: Royal Guardsman is one of the best around.
    4mile race
    PH: Put Allee Garde as his nap of the festival. Thinks Willie will run him here and the panel agreed.
    Fred Winter
    AB: Vendor is guaranteed to win this race. He will not lose. Teafortree a good thing also.
    Thursday
    Ryanair
    TS: Riverside Theatre a massive lay. Big Medermit fan. He’s all in on Great Endeavour. Massive fan. Thinks he won the paddy power chase very well.Has to be step up in class here but can do it.
    AB:Can’t have Great Endeavour,thinks he will be outclassed.Poquellin e/w.
    DR:Alberta’s Run e/w
    WM:Blazing Tiempo e/w
    PH:Not gone on the Irish horses.Thinks track will not be a problem for Riverside Theatre.
    World Hurdle:
    DR: Thousand Stars(9/1) could come close if he runs. No1 else has a chance of beating Big Bucks.
    WM: Ruby Walsh is more confident of Big Bucks than any other horse at the festival. Thousand Stars is one of the highest rated to take him on. TS is proper stayer.
    TS: Can’t stand Big Bucks cause he always wins. This is his hardest test yet, but he thinks he is the best horse in training in the world.
    AB: Hopes that it’s a foregone conclusion. He reckons Dynast(14/1) will be 2nd.
    PH: Oscar Whiskey has plenty of class. He really likes So Young (16/1)- he could run a big race. Thinks Big Bucks will drift on the day, but will still win.


    Jewson:
    TS: Hearing all is not well with Peddlers Cross – something seriously wrong with the horse, in his opinion.
    DR: Disregard Peddlers.
    AB: Sonix has a chance. For Non Stop is a good horse. Crystal Bonus was mentioned too.
    PH: Thinks Sir Des Champs will run here and will win.
    Triumph Hurdle:
    AB: Pearl Swan(6/1) or Grummeti(9/2). Altho he has a feeling Balder Success (8/1) has a chance. Wayne Hutchinson’s only ride of the festival.
    TS: Dodging Bullets (14/1). There are good vibes coming from the Nichols yard on this horse.
    WM: Darroun (12/1) will run a big race. Good e/w chance.

    Albert Bartlett Hurdle:
    PH: Boston Bob (7/4) – possible winner. Mount Benbullen (9/2) is flying, good ew chance.
    TS: Mount Benbullen
    WM: Boston Bob is a super horse. MB has a chance if he jumps right, but there is no guarantee he will.
    DR: No way MB will revert form. He is riding either Sea of Thunder or Ipso Berlay. Whoever he rides.
    AB: Rocky Creek is the best of the English. But thinks Boston Bob will win.

    Nap:

    PH: 4 miler – Allee Garde (loves good ground)Cross Country – A New Story. Old horse, but this doesn’t work against them in this race. Great value at the moment.
    AB: Fred Winter – Vendor (will win)
    Imperial Cup – Hinterland
    County Hurdle – Ted Spread
    Novice Handicap Hurdle – Triola Dolan
    Also mentioned Hold on Julio, and said that Local Hero at 33s in the County Hurdle, possibly Lurcan?

    WM: Boston Bob (Ruby said whichever race he wants to run him in – very confident)
    Goras Gra – Fred Winters
    Sergent Gibbs
    Final Approach – Coral

    DR: Novice Handicap Hurdle – Going Wrong
    Mares Hurdle – Shop DJ. Really likes this horse, has a great chance to come second behind Quevega.

    TS: All of John Jo’s horses
    It’s a gimme
    Get me out of here- Coral Cup
    Citizenship – County Hurdle
    Gold Cup
    AB: Long Run will win, real stamina test, too much for Kauto.
    TS: Doesn’t like Long Run with the Dentist on board. Likes Midnight Chase (10/1)
    WM: Quel Esprit prefers rain. Can’t see past Long Run.
    DR: Long Run is the best and the likely winner. Burton Port has reasonable course form.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,873 ✭✭✭RichieLawlor


    Pricewise used that dentist quip in Waterford aswell.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,934 ✭✭✭AdpRo


    Did anyone here actually get the 6/4 sizing Europe at the Leopardstown preview last night?

    Pathetic carry on from spoils but I'd expect nothing less from that shower

    I tried but failed....stupid thing to say if not going to honour it but as you said wouldn't expect much better from them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,335 ✭✭✭✭UrbanSea


    Hey lads if any of ye are heading tonight come over to me for a chat. I'm 5'5, about 250lbs, bald and will be wearing this t shirt. Hope to see ye there.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,873 ✭✭✭RichieLawlor


    Weetabix wrote: »
    I tried but failed....stupid thing to say if not going to honour it but as you said wouldn't expect much better from them.

    They layed 5k on it then took it down apparently


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,173 ✭✭✭hucklebuck


    UrbanSea wrote: »
    I'm going to the free one tonight cos I'm a hero.

    I'll be wearing a white t shirt with a photo of Urban Sea on the front of it that I got specially made. I wear it on some nights out, girls seem to think it's weird???????

    Thats probably because you sellotaped a picture of a horse to your Pennys t-shirt, the rest of us get our t-shirts printed.

    OR because you have your filly(mare) on your t-shirt


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,219 ✭✭✭Goldcupfav






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  • Registered Users Posts: 7,838 ✭✭✭Nulty


    Anyone else watching the Cheltenham previews on attheraces.com just staring at gina bryces chest?

    :)


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