Torrent users beware

Actually, when I say "the days of pirate digital information are coming to an end", I mean mainstream. Twon't be long before people see it the same as strolling into HMV and sticking a few CDs in their pocket.

It will always exist, but it'll become underground and basically the domain of real criminals soon enough.

I presume it is "a message" to the evil profit stealers. Trying to send a message to the axis of evil. Break copyright and suffer the wrath of the law.

MrP

seamus wrote:

Actually, when I say "the days of pirate digital information are coming to an end", I mean mainstream. Twon't be long before people see it the same as strolling into HMV and sticking a few CDs in their pocket.

It will always exist, but it'll become underground and basically the domain of real criminals soon enough.

I see. TBH if they're gonna start suing people they should send cease and desist orders first before actually taking people to court. That incident with the little 12-year old girl in New York 2 years ago is what pisses me off whenever I hear of these cases.

seamus wrote:

There's not a chance in hell they'd have the time or resources to take everyone to court, their aim is some high-profile cases so that the ignorant will stop, and more importantly, parents will take control for fear of what their kids are doing.

They've been doing that in the US for 2 years but after the initial drop in p2p users when they first started suing people it just recovered stronger than before. On the issue of high profile cases the MGM vs Grokster in the US, and the kazaa case in Australia are the ones to watch out for.

The General wrote:

Don't be stupid, everyone who has the internet has downloaded something illegal, how can anyone stop this

There is always gonna be a way to get music/video illegally from the net

Napster -> RIAA sue napster-> Napster shut down->Rise of Kazaa, Morpheus, etc,-> Rise of BT-> 50% of internet has pirate material->Lawsuits->iTunes-> ?.

Wonder how it'll end?

The General wrote:

Don't be stupid, everyone who has the internet has downloaded something illegal, how can anyone stop this

There is always gonna be a way to get music/video illegally from the net

That's like saying "There's always going to be a way of getting music illegally from shops".

Of course there will be the ability to get music illegally online, but even now, the attitudes are changing. As the legal world and companies slowly catch up on the power of the net, and people see being online as more and more of a necessity rather than a pastime, the lines between just downloading stuff because you can, and illegal activity are slowly unblurring.

Soon enough, with DRM and probable legislation forcing ISPs to record traffic, people won't draw a distinction between stealing online and stealing in real life. In ten years' time, every 20-year-old won't know what the world was like before the Internet. The Internet for them will in fact be real-life, there will be no distinction.

In much the same way that we copied CDs to tape when we were younger, but then instead went and bought the CDs when we started earning money, file-sharing will slowly die out, and people find it's less hassle to buy online, and it doesn't twang their moral fibres quite so much.

seamus wrote:

In much the same way that we copied CDs to tape when we were younger, but then instead went and bought the CDs when we started earning money, file-sharing will slowly die out, and people find it's less hassle to buy online, and it doesn't twang their moral fibres quite so much.

I doubt it. Anyone who's used filesharing networks like BT will find how easy and convenient it is to use them.

DannyD wrote:

Bit Torrent users are hardly the pirates running the show.

But afink a 1/3 of all traffic on the net is now on BT.

Chalk wrote:

there just getting p'ed off that its become so mainstream,
as has been pointed out, its easier to download an album than to buy it.

And the DRM is a pain if you get a legal download and wanna put it on an mp3 player or minidisk.

I'm wondering myself if they can do that.

It would not be profitable for the record industry to sue everyone. In short term costs, the riaa, mpaa etc. lost money in the first few rounds of suing that they made. It's just a scare tactic.

Filesharing is not a new thing. Anyone remember BBS from the 80s? or computer conventions, where people met up and copied disks in the 80s? It's just more popular now, as every tom dick and harry has an internet connection.

Nermal: bit of an anarchist, are we!

I would have no problem buying CD's/movies if the artists / crew got >75% of the money I pay. But as it stands, most of the money spent on cds etc goes to Record company execs and so on.

I trust i'm not the only one that remembers the old days?



And surprise surprise, it didn't.

ronan001 wrote:

I would imagine eircom or any other isp would be concerned about loss of customers to other untargetted isp, if the courts make them give up names!!!

could the courts force them to give up info...under irish law??