Landcruiser 7 seat passenger reg change

hi -no problem taxing it in co. meath. Cost me E20 for weigh bridge cert, E250 for crewcab cert and then the cvrt also. i allready had the seats and belts from another trooper i had. sorry no pics, i wuldnt be that computer savvy. The seats and belts just bolted straight back in, fitted in 15 minutes. the anchors i had to drill but again wasnt too bad of a job.

DD

Hi can anyone help, I have a passenger taxed 2004 Rangerover vogue and I have seen a number of these jeeps classed as a 5 seater commercial or utility with annual tax of €333. How can this be done?

Does anyone know if the LWB Nissan Terrano qualifies for the crewcab conversion. Im inclined to think its a bit small to qualify but anyone know for sure.

thanks

DD

DD
There's a Terrano crew cab on donedeal in Dublin. I know this doesn't prove they qualify but.. Maybe talk to one of the engineers that certify them.

Hi,
I bought a 97 landcruiser prado 7 seater on an English plate over the weekend,just wondering how can I pay VRT as a crewcab, instead of a 7 seater?

Do I just bring an engineers report to the vrt office while its still on an english plate?

I would really appreciate any advice as I am getting conflicting advice from people that I have been speaking too...

wogger, moved your post to this one which covers it (somewhere!). get yourself a cup of tea and settle down for a read.

elreberendo wrote: »

I know it's been a year since this, any update on getting insurance for a private person driving a commercial vehicle? I'm in the same situation here, thinking of buying a Range Rover Vogue Crew Cab for low tax but I would use it to carry my wife and son as well, so I need get proper insurance cover.

Thanks.

Whatever about insurance, unless you can show a valid business reason for having it, your local area authority won't allow you to tax it commercial.
I got it as a farmer, but I had to change my reg details with the tax office. I was regd as a carpenter, but as I don't have employees any more, I wouldn't be entitled to tax a crew cab.
Insurance: I just informed AXA of the change of Taxation class.

Have you ever taxed a commercial?
When you (or I who has had commercial vans for 20 years) go to tax a particular commercial for the first time regardless of whether IT was taxed before as one or not we must show that we are entitled to tax one as a commercial ie that we have a business which this will be used for. That's the law. It was widely flouted in the past but they are wise today.

Now, a crew cab is trickier because you must produce evidence of not only self employment but also the need to carry more than 2 employees as a normal van could carry 3 across the front.
One exception to that is a farmer who sometimes uses casual labour including family members for tasks requiring more than 3 people.
Some motor tax offices are more lenient, but in my case, in Kerry, I had to get a letter from Revenue stating that I am registered to pay tax as a farmer (which I am albeit a part time one)

Some guys will tell you that a herd or flock number is enough. That's bullsh1t and there are signs up in the motor tax office saying exactly that in polite language.

They also required from me a declaration of commercial use only which is a legal document signed in the presence of a Garda.

If you have a business or farm you can wrangle crew cab commercial tax out of them with difficulty but if you have neither then find a different route as they'll wreck your head and your insurance may well be invalid due to having comitted revenue fraud which is what you'll be doing.

Packrat wrote: »

Have you ever taxed a commercial?
due to having comitted revenue fraud which is what you'll be doing.

This wouldn't happen if the taxes were fair (no totally unfair and utterly questionable). I know it's the law, but sometimes the law is wrong and perhaps if everybody gather to protest or even just don't pay then anybody could have any car regardless of the bloody engine size (CO2 emission makes more sense, I agree). In many cases, the motor tax is higher than the value of the vehicle, that doesn't make any sense to me, sorry.

Most of the times civil disobedience works. I'm not happy paying one of the highest car taxes in Europe plus highway tolls, M-50 tolls, tolls, taxes, tolls, taxes, bailouts, water, etc... sorry for the off-topic, but it's all related in my opinion.

Either way, my insurer (AXA) will come back to me with an answer to the Crew Cab vehicle with particular/social insurance, if they're happy with it then I am and there is nothing illegal in that.

Thanks for your advise anyway. There is a bit of confusion about this matter, some people say they're grand with crew cab, others say otherwise.

CJhaughey wrote: »

If it was simple and easy every man and his dog would be driving a crewcab.
The fact that most aren't shows its not that simple.

Perhaps we always take the long queue! Anyway, that's up to ourselves, if I can save a fortune every year then I'm up for it, I'm not rich unfortunately.

I know I would sleep better if I had not to do any tricks, but perhaps it's worth the risk. If I had to pay €1.494 a year for a 3l car then perhaps I wouldn't have it, which is a real shame because the Range Rover is the car of my dreams since long time ago.

Again, thanks for the advise, I really appreciate any comment about this matter and I guess other users will gain more knowledge in the future.

On the other hand, what is that ZV chassis thing? Sorry, never heard of that but I'm open to any other choices.
Cheers.

Theanswers wrote: »

You will be very unlucky to have issues. Everything in the entire country is taxed commercial.

That's what I come across after seeing all those lovely Crew Cab jeeps on donedeal!
Btw, AXA have not come back to me on my query, I'll have to ring them to see what's the story.

I see what you mean. However and that's my guess after reading all the posts in this thread and others, if a car has been converted to crew cab, has the engineer certification and has passed the DOE (NCT for commercial vehicles) and has obtained the commercial tax €333 per year then remains the same for the future and regardless if the new owner has a business, has to carry 3 workers or the family.

There is no need to produce proof of those facts because that was produced already, when the tax is due to be paid I guess again all you need to do is get a pin number for renovation then pay.

Other people stated in this thread that they were grand with gards checkpoints and never questioned anything.

I believe that's wrong, you don't need to go to the tax office to pay the tax. All you need to do is retrieve a pin number to your email address then you can pay your tax online.

I did it in the past several times right after buying a used vehicle, I filled this form then I got a new pin then could paid tax online and got my disc:

Motor Tax Online website > PIN Retrieval

Hope this helps.

elreberendo wrote: »

I believe that's wrong, you don't need to go to the tax office to pay the tax. All you need to do is retrieve a pin number to your email address then you can pay your tax online.

I did it in the past several times right after buying a used vehicle, I filled this form then I got a new pin then could paid tax online and got my disc:

Motor Tax Online website > PIN Retrieval

Hope this helps.

You can get a PIN for private tax online as soon as the vehicle is in your name, for commercial tax you can't you have to drop down to an office. The only way to avoid it is for the seller to tax it, but that's only pushing the problem out a year.