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Donegal GAA Discussion Thread

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    #1772
    Boom__Boom
    Registered Users Posts: 3,101 ✭✭✭Boom__Boom


    Nidgeweasel wrote: »
    Which in of itself is ridiculous.

    The whole thing is a shambles. I've said it got years. Donnacha Walsh should have been in there too fwiw.

    No-one ever accused the All-Stars of making sense.

    Treating the YPOTY as an extra All-Star isnt the craziest part of the whole process.


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    #1773
    harpsman
    Registered Users Posts: 1,608 ✭✭✭harpsman


    Nidgeweasel wrote: »
    Which in of itself is ridiculous.

    The whole thing is a shambles. I've said it got years. Donnacha Walsh should have been in there too fwiw.
    Dont really agree. Personally Id just go for the 15 best players myself, rather than sticking rigidly to each position, particularly as actual playing positions are very fluid these days.


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    #1774
    charlie14
    Registered Users Posts: 14,868 ✭✭✭✭charlie14


    Is there a new policy for selecting the All Stars, in that the two semi-finalists get three, runners up four and the winners five! Only reason I can see for Mc Carthy of Dublin, or indeed if to a lesser extent, Mayo`s Boyle getting one rather than Frank Mc Glynn


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    #1775
    Nidgeweasel
    Registered Users Posts: 2,621 ✭✭✭Nidgeweasel


    Well done Ryan McHugh. Odhran had the bigger impact for me this year but great to see two young fellas bed in so quickly. Hugely promising.

    James O Donaghoe unsurprisingly player of the year. Sensational footballer. Neil out scored him in the final mind!


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    #1776
    SM746
    Closed Accounts Posts: 414 ✭✭SM746


    Eunans just beat michaels there by a point


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    #1777
    Nidgeweasel
    Registered Users Posts: 2,621 ✭✭✭Nidgeweasel


    Glenswilly v Eunans in the senior.

    Dungloe v Eunans in the reserve.

    Glenswilly to win and to go close in Ulster.


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    #1778
    Alvin Holler
    Registered Users Posts: 383 ✭✭Alvin Holler


    Nidgeweasel wrote: »
    Glenswilly v Eunans in the senior.

    Dungloe v Eunans in the reserve.

    Glenswilly to win and to go close in Ulster.

    Eunans to win it and Maxi to lead them to Ulster glory.


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    #1779
    Redsoxfan
    Registered Users Posts: 5,244 ✭✭✭Redsoxfan


    Sounded like two cracking semi finals. Well, the second game took a while to get going. The TG4 games for next weekend have been confirmed and the Donegal final will not be shown - it has gotten plenty of exposure in recent years in fairness and the games have never been that good. One of the games shown will be Omagh v Cross which will be interesting to watch.

    Bookies have the Glen as slight favourites. The game is a rematch of the 2007 Final (Eunans 0-12, Glenswilly 1-03).

    Congrats to our four All Stars and Young Player of the Year.


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    #1780
    dog_pig
    Registered Users Posts: 647 ✭✭✭dog_pig


    http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/donegal-set-to-name-rory-gallagher-as-football-manager-1.1981130?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter


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    #1781
    downthemiddle
    Registered Users Posts: 2,867 ✭✭✭downthemiddle


    We have white smoke.

    http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/rory-gallagher-confirmed-as-new-donegal-manager-30708787.html


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    #1782
    Timmyctc
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,825 ✭✭✭Timmyctc


    Good Stuff. Looking forward to the league now.


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    #1783
    overshoot
    Registered Users Posts: 3,202 ✭✭✭overshoot


    Best of what was on offer really, but I don't think it mattered who was signed up. Cant help feeling underwhelmed by everyone after jim!

    Also, bringing the announcements forward, deflection from NC's appeal?


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    #1784
    Nidgeweasel
    Registered Users Posts: 2,621 ✭✭✭Nidgeweasel


    Bigger question now is the backroom team.


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    #1785
    Beagslife
    Registered Users Posts: 295 ✭✭Beagslife


    Keith Duggan has a good piece this morning, in the IT.

    MC


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    #1786
    Nidgeweasel
    Registered Users Posts: 2,621 ✭✭✭Nidgeweasel


    Beagslife wrote: »
    Keith Duggan has a good piece this morning, in the IT.

    MC

    He's a brilliant writer, Keith Duggan. And a proud Donegal man which helps.

    Excellent piece, shame he had to bring up that result in 2000. One of the low points. Didn't Tony Boyle miss a penalty?


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    #1787
    DDC1990
    Registered Users Posts: 10,361 ✭✭✭✭DDC1990


    Lads, I see the Donegal County Final will go ahead today after the Naomh Conaill appeal was thrown out.

    Now, obviously I wasn't at the match, but from what I've read, a player got a black card, after having a Yellow Card, and was replaced. The game was level, and the replacement went on to kick the point to put them in the lead, and they won by 2.

    Now, in this situation the precedent has already been set that there would be a replay (Pobail Scoil Corca Dhuibhne vs Coláiste Críost Rí in the Munster Schools Quarter Final)

    However, seemingly to avoid a replay and delaying the County Final, the County board, rescinded the Black Card and threw out the appeal.

    Was anyone at the match? Was the Black Card justified. Should it possibly been a yellow (irrelevant I know, as he would have walked anyway).

    Seems like a horrible decision, and doesn't paint the Gaa in a good light.


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    #1788
    Nidgeweasel
    Registered Users Posts: 2,621 ✭✭✭Nidgeweasel


    Eunans county champions.

    Crossmaglen out of Ulster. Big chance missed for Glenswilly.


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    #1789
    charlie14
    Registered Users Posts: 14,868 ✭✭✭✭charlie14


    DDC1990 wrote: »
    Lads, I see the Donegal County Final will go ahead today after the Naomh Conaill appeal was thrown out.

    Now, obviously I wasn't at the match, but from what I've read, a player got a black card, after having a Yellow Card, and was replaced. The game was level, and the replacement went on to kick the point to put them in the lead, and they won by 2.

    Now, in this situation the precedent has already been set that there would be a replay (Pobail Scoil Corca Dhuibhne vs Coláiste Críost Rí in the Munster Schools Quarter Final)

    However, seemingly to avoid a replay and delaying the County Final, the County board, rescinded the Black Card and threw out the appeal.



    Was anyone at the match? Was the Black Card justified. Should it possibly been a yellow (irrelevant I know, as he would have walked anyway).

    Seems like a horrible decision, and doesn't paint the Gaa in a good light.

    Is`nt it just another example of how much of a farce the black card has become?
    Referees now seem to throw in one or two near the end of a game, for no reason in relation to the rest of the game, other than they have just realised "I haven`t issued one yet, Big Brother in Croke Park will be annoyed"


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    #1790
    DDC1990
    Registered Users Posts: 10,361 ✭✭✭✭DDC1990


    charlie14 wrote: »
    Is`nt it just another example of how much of a farce the black card has become?
    Referees now seem to throw in one or two near the end of a game, for no reason in relation to the rest of the game, other than they have just realised "I haven`t issued one yet, Big Brother in Croke Park will be annoyed"
    To be honest, in this situation, the black card isn't the issue at all.

    The issue is (for me anyway) the County Board messing around with the rules, so that they wouldn't be inconvenienced with the postponement of the County Final, and all the trappings that would go with that (Murphy not making the Australia trip).

    If he had got two yellow cards, and the ref forgot about the first, I'd imagine one of the yellows would have been rescinded also. From what I've heard, the Black Card had no reason to be rescinded.

    I feel sorry for Naomh Conall in the situation, and i'd imagine not knowing whether the match went ahead or not may have affected Glenswilly as well.


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    #1791
    Redsoxfan
    Registered Users Posts: 5,244 ✭✭✭Redsoxfan


    DDC1990 wrote: »
    Was anyone at the match? Was the Black Card justified. Should it possibly been a yellow (irrelevant I know, as he would have walked anyway).

    I wasn't at the match, but from talking with someone who was, specifically about whether or not this was a black card, he said that the whistle was blown when the player in question pulled back one of the Naomh Conaill players. So, technically, not a black card (pulling down is, pulling back is not).

    I agree the whole thing is a mess.


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    #1792
    DDC1990
    Registered Users Posts: 10,361 ✭✭✭✭DDC1990


    Redsoxfan wrote: »
    I wasn't at the match, but from talking with someone who was, specifically about whether or not this was a black card, he said that the whistle was blown when the player in question pulled back one of the Naomh Conaill players. So, technically, not a black card (pulling down is, pulling back is not).

    I agree the whole thing is a mess.
    You see I have no problem with the Black Card being rescinded in that case... however, the rescinding of the black card and the case of an ineligible player not only playing, but actually scoring a crucial point should be completely seperate issues. The black card should have been wiped, and the replay granted.

    Its not just a Donegal CB thing, but a Gaa thing. Similar funny-buggers went on with Keegans Red being rescinded, Darragh Ó Sé famously getting his red overturned. something needs to be done about it because for all the professionalism on the field, off the field things are as bad as ever.

    Anyway, its over and done with.


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    #1793
    dgl1992
    Registered Users Posts: 32 ✭dgl1992


    Redsoxfan wrote: »
    I wasn't at the match, but from talking with someone who was, specifically about whether or not this was a black card, he said that the whistle was blown when the player in question pulled back one of the Naomh Conaill players. So, technically, not a black card (pulling down is, pulling back is not).

    I agree the whole thing is a mess.

    The person who told you the above couldn't have been at the game either as its so far from what happened its laughable. The black card was shown due to a collision between a glenswilly player and a Glenties player. Not a thing to do with a pull back. It was never a black card as the collision was accidental and not deliberate.


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    #1794
    Redsoxfan
    Registered Users Posts: 5,244 ✭✭✭Redsoxfan


    Thanks for your views first time poster. We probably know each other....


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    #1795
    tanko
    Registered Users Posts: 9,205 ✭✭✭tanko


    Why did Naoimh Conaill not take this any further to the ulster council or ccccc? Sounds like they were hard done by.


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    #1796
    Redsoxfan
    Registered Users Posts: 5,244 ✭✭✭Redsoxfan


    Four Masters ladies team denied a replay against Monaghan Harps in another fine GAA mess.


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    #1797
    dgl1992
    Registered Users Posts: 32 ✭dgl1992


    tanko wrote: »
    Why did Naoimh Conaill not take this any further to the ulster council or ccccc? Sounds like they were hard done by.

    Naomh Conaill did appeal Donegal CCC decision to Ulster Hearings Committee. They rejected it too.


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    #1798
    dgl1992
    Registered Users Posts: 32 ✭dgl1992


    As many of you will remember there was an all out brawl between Four Masters and St. Eunans at half time during their quarter final in MacCumhaill Park. It went on for approx 3 minutes as far as i recall.

    From reports in last weeks Democrat it seems that the County Board haven't even begun an investigation. I have no doubt that had the brawl involved certain other clubs we would have seen swift action and bans and fines at this stage.

    Is there one rule for some clubs and another for the rest??


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    #1799
    K-9
    Registered Users Posts: 43,311 ✭✭✭✭K-9


    Redsoxfan wrote: »
    Four Masters ladies team denied a replay against Monaghan Harps in another fine GAA mess.

    Wtf? The referee had it down as Four Masters winning? How'd they work that one out?

    Mad Men's Don Draper : What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons.



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    #1800
    ArnoldJRimmer
    Registered Users Posts: 2,493 ✭✭✭ArnoldJRimmer


    K-9 wrote: »
    Wtf? The referee had it down as Four Masters winning? How'd they work that one out?

    Looks like the ref awarded two Harps points to Four Masters in his notebook, so had it as 2-6 to 1-6 in favor of Four Masters when it should have actually been 2-4 to to 1-8. Scoreboard was right at end of game, just ref was wrong.


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    #1801
    Redsoxfan
    Registered Users Posts: 5,244 ✭✭✭Redsoxfan


    ArnoldJRimmer wrote: »
    Looks like the ref awarded two Harps points to Four Masters in his notebook, so had it as 2-6 to 1-6 in favor of Four Masters when it should have actually been 2-4 to to 1-8. Scoreboard was right at end of game, just ref was wrong.

    Yeah, that was my understanding of the issue. Monaghan Harps posted the scorers and the times of each score on their FB page and also said that Four Masters had tweeted the scores (I don't recall that, but I might have missed it). Also the fourth official had the score as per the scoreboard.

    I think the annoyance relates to the fact the ref led (some) Four Masters players to believe they were winning and so they played out the game accordingly, i.e. rather than pushing on to equalise, they held the ball more?

    What a mess.


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