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Cork City Marathon, June 4th 2012.

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  • #92
    corkrunner71
    Registered Users Posts: 137 ✭✭corkrunner71


    foxyboxer wrote: »
    None of them up for it I'm afraid (not even the last 2 legs of 9 miles or so :rolleyes:) hence me getting roped in. I assume that I'll have to start with two timing chips and thought there might be a conflict with the times. I checked the terms and conditions but there's no mention of that scenario, would have been nice to have a legitimate reason to bow out!

    I'm not sure if the chip is on the back of the number or not so you may actually need to don both numbers if you're doing the final leg !! Will definitely stand out more than a chip on the foot.


  • #93
    menoscemo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,915 ✭✭✭✭menoscemo


    foxyboxer wrote: »
    None of them up for it I'm afraid (not even the last 2 legs of 9 miles or so :rolleyes:) hence me getting roped in. I assume that I'll have to start with two timing chips and thought there might be a conflict with the times. I checked the terms and conditions but there's no mention of that scenario, would have been nice to have a legitimate reason to bow out!

    Nope only the person on the last leg of the relay has to wear a timing chip (on his/her shoe). There is a little bracelet that is supposed to be passed on from runner to runner at the changeover points, but it really proves nothing as there are no checks, the last runner could easily just wear it and the chip and take off when he/she likes.
    The relay is actually rife for cheating when you think of it but i don't think there are any prizes so there is no real incentive for doing so.


  • #94
    robinph
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,057 Mod ✭✭✭✭robinph


    menoscemo wrote: »
    Nope only the person on the last leg of the relay has to wear a timing chip (on his/her shoe). There is a little bracelet that is supposed to be passed on from runner to runner at the changeover points, but it really proves nothing as there are no checks, the last runner could easily just wear it and the chip and take off when he/she likes.
    The relay is actually rife for cheating when you think of it but i don't think there are any prizes so there is no real incentive for doing so.

    We are all just a very honorable bunch us relay runners and wouldn't dream of doing such things. It is very exciting hanging around the relay changeovers and handing over to your team mates.


  • #95
    foxyboxer
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,528 ✭✭✭foxyboxer


    Certainly no question of them cheating. Just stuck/lazy (delete as applicable)
    It's just that the last thing you need before running the full one is having hassle about their timing chip and your own.


  • #96
    menoscemo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,915 ✭✭✭✭menoscemo


    foxyboxer wrote: »
    Certainly no question of them cheating. Just stuck/lazy (delete as applicable)
    It's just that the last thing you need before running the full one is having hassle about their timing chip and your own.

    You won't have to wear two timing chips (or numbers). You'll just have to hand over a bracelet at the first realy changeover point (about 5 miles in).


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  • #97
    robinph
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,057 Mod ✭✭✭✭robinph


    Technically as a relay runner for the first leg you should also be wearing a different number on your back, but I think your OK with the plan you have. You then have to try and beat the four of them to run 20'ish miles after you have already run a 5'ish mile "warm up".

    That should suitably shame the lot of them if you do beat them on your own. :D


  • #98
    alitoast
    Registered Users Posts: 210 ✭✭alitoast


    This day next month.....eek.

    Can someone tell me a bit more about how the pacing works? i assume its a big group behind one guy who knows what pace to run at? hoping to run witht he 3:45 group but i'm a novice marathon runner so any advice appreciated.


  • #99
    Aimman
    Registered Users Posts: 2,418 ✭✭✭Aimman


    The pacers (armed with balloons with the finishing time on them) will start out at a steady pace and stick to that all the way around, so that the pace for each mile is the same. In the case of the 3:45 pacers, they will be running at approximately 8:34 per mile all the way. If you keep with them, they'll be helping you not to head out too fast and struggle later on and will also give you a bit of support when you need it and try to rally up the spectators to cheer you on.

    the pacer will relieve you of having to check your time, check your speed, do the maths to get you to the finish line in 3:45. IF you're feeling strong in the latter part of the race, they might encourage you to push ahead of them a bit to put a slightly bigger dent in the sub 3:45 time.

    One bit of advice is to start either beside them or just behind them. If you are ahead of them crossing the line, your chip time will be started before theirs and if you finish with them, you'll have extra time on your results. If you start too far behind them, then there might be the urge to run too fast in the first mile to catch up with them. If for any reason, you need to stop during the race, for a drink or a toilet break, dont feel you have to go at breakneck speed to catch up with them over the next 200m, you'll be able to see the balloons ahead and just bring up the pace gradually. If it takes you a mile to slowly creep back up on them, it will be less taxing then bursting into a sprint to catch them ASAP.


  • #100
    TFBubendorfer
    Registered Users Posts: 6,340 ✭✭✭TFBubendorfer


    alitoast wrote: »
    Can someone tell me a bit more about how the pacing works? i assume its a big group behind one guy who knows what pace to run at? hoping to run witht he 3:45 group but i'm a novice marathon runner so any advice appreciated.

    That's pretty much it. There are usually 2 or 3 pacers per pace band. They will carry balloons with the target time and will run at even pace. It's then up to the runners to try and stick with them.

    Update: Beaten by Aimann. Doh!


  • #101
    Aimman
    Registered Users Posts: 2,418 ✭✭✭Aimman


    TFBubendorfer wrote: »
    Update: Beaten by Aimann. Doh!

    I very seldom get to hear those words, so I'm printing this it out and framing it, :D


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  • #102
    Alayah Uninterested Silver
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    2 questions.

    1. Not big into gels. Would like a sweet sugary drink somewhere along the way. Think in Dublin they had that great Spar or Centra orange isotonic stuff which for me was pefect. Well they be handing out anything at all like that in Cork? Think I'll need more than just water. Even Ribena would do.

    2. So many people have said it is slightly hillier than Dublin, which is my only marathon to date. On the other hand, know 2 sub 3 hour marathon runners who have done better in Cork than Dublin. So a little confused. All things being equal, training, weather etc. is the course noticeably slower than Dublin?


  • #103
    TFBubendorfer
    Registered Users Posts: 6,340 ✭✭✭TFBubendorfer


    Deleted User wrote: »
    2. So many people have said it is slightly hillier than Dublin, which is my only marathon to date. On the other hand, know 2 sub 3 hour marathon runners who have done better in Cork than Dublin. So a little confused. All things being equal, training, weather etc. is the course noticeably slower than Dublin?

    Cork is slightly less hilly than Dublin, but there is not much difference between the two. It won't make much difference in time at all.


  • #104
    thereturn
    Registered Users Posts: 155 ✭✭thereturn


    After completing my first marathon other day in Belfast I'm considering doing either the Burren, Newry or Cork marathon at end of may/start of June. Just wondering how they compare. Newry is the nearest to me but am quite flexible. Any help would be greatly appreciated.


  • #105
    rom
    Registered Users Posts: 5,135 ✭✭✭rom


    thereturn wrote: »
    After completing my first marathon other day in Belfast I'm considering doing either the Burren, Newry or Cork marathon at end of may/start of June. Just wondering how they compare. Newry is the nearest to me but am quite flexible. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

    closing date for cork is tomorrow btw


  • #106
    Mr Slow
    Registered Users Posts: 6,554 ✭✭✭Mr Slow


    Deleted User wrote: »
    2 questions.

    1. Not big into gels. Would like a sweet sugary drink somewhere along the way. Think in Dublin they had that great Spar or Centra orange isotonic stuff which for me was pefect. Well they be handing out anything at all like that in Cork? Think I'll need more than just water. Even Ribena would do.

    They had Lucosade sport last year, the first station was 11/12 miles in if memory serves.


  • #107
    Mr Slow
    Registered Users Posts: 6,554 ✭✭✭Mr Slow


    menoscemo wrote: »
    Last year there was a big crowd in the pub they named for the official after party. Apparently there was a free BBQ in the evening but we never actually made it.

    We made it alright but there was an executive decision taken to go elsewhere.


  • #108
    PaulieYifter
    Registered Users Posts: 701 ✭✭✭PaulieYifter


    Deleted User wrote: »
    2 questions.

    1. Not big into gels. Would like a sweet sugary drink somewhere along the way. Think in Dublin they had that great Spar or Centra orange isotonic stuff which for me was pefect. Well they be handing out anything at all like that in Cork? Think I'll need more than just water. Even Ribena would do.

    Last year's fuel provisions:

    Blackpool, just before O’Connell Street (c. 2.5 miles) WATER BOTTLES
    Horgan’s Quay (c. 4 miles) WATER CUPS
    Lower Glanmire Road (Tivoli) (c. 6 miles) WATER BOTTLES
    South Ring Road (c. 9 miles) WATER BOTTLES
    Blackrock Castle Carpark (c. 11.5 miles) WATER BOTTLES & ENERGY DRINK
    Railway Line at junction with Skehard Road (c. 14 miles) WATER BOTTLES
    Marina, Lee Rowing Club (c. 15.5 miles) WATER CUPS & SPONGES
    Curragh Road (c. 18 miles) WATER CUPS & ENERGY DRINK
    The Lough (c. 19.5 miles) WATER CUPS & SPONGES
    Model Farm Road (c. 21 miles) WATER BOTTLES
    Inchigaggin Lane (c. 23 miles) WATER BOTTLES & ENERGY DRINK
    Carrigrohane Road (c. 24 miles) WATER CUPS
    Mardyke, at Mardyke Bridge (c. 25 miles) WATER BOTTLES
    Finish Line: water & Fair Trade bananas


  • #109
    Alayah Uninterested Silver
    Posts: 0 ✭ Alayah Uninterested Silver


    PaulieYifter wrote: »
    Last year's fuel provisions:

    Blackpool, just before O’Connell Street (c. 2.5 miles) WATER BOTTLES
    Horgan’s Quay (c. 4 miles) WATER CUPS
    Lower Glanmire Road (Tivoli) (c. 6 miles) WATER BOTTLES
    South Ring Road (c. 9 miles) WATER BOTTLES
    Blackrock Castle Carpark (c. 11.5 miles) WATER BOTTLES & ENERGY DRINK
    Railway Line at junction with Skehard Road (c. 14 miles) WATER BOTTLES
    Marina, Lee Rowing Club (c. 15.5 miles) WATER CUPS & SPONGES
    Curragh Road (c. 18 miles) WATER CUPS & ENERGY DRINK
    The Lough (c. 19.5 miles) WATER CUPS & SPONGES
    Model Farm Road (c. 21 miles) WATER BOTTLES
    Inchigaggin Lane (c. 23 miles) WATER BOTTLES & ENERGY DRINK
    Carrigrohane Road (c. 24 miles) WATER CUPS
    Mardyke, at Mardyke Bridge (c. 25 miles) WATER BOTTLES
    Finish Line: water & Fair Trade bananas

    Excellent. Thanks for that. Hope this year will be something the same.


  • #110
    Blooming
    Registered Users Posts: 49 ✭Blooming


    rom wrote: »
    thereturn wrote: »
    After completing my first marathon other day in Belfast I'm considering doing either the Burren, Newry or Cork marathon at end of may/start of June. Just wondering how they compare. Newry is the nearest to me but am quite flexible. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

    closing date for cork is tomorrow btw

    Closing date extended to 18th May.


  • #111
    sideswipe
    Registered Users Posts: 2,431 ✭✭✭sideswipe


    Blooming wrote: »
    Closing date extended to 18th May.
    Low numbers this year?


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  • #112
    corkrunner71
    Registered Users Posts: 137 ✭✭corkrunner71


    I'd imagine that the Waterford marathon would have taken a good amount of people that might normally have run in Cork but live closer to, or in Waterford.


  • #113
    Mr Slow
    Registered Users Posts: 6,554 ✭✭✭Mr Slow


    sideswipe wrote: »
    Low numbers this year?

    They may have been waiting for me but I signed up yesterday :)


  • #114
    EauRouge79
    Registered Users Posts: 511 ✭✭✭EauRouge79


    Blooming wrote: »
    Closing date extended to 18th May.

    It gets extended almost every year


  • #115
    Mr Slow
    Registered Users Posts: 6,554 ✭✭✭Mr Slow


    Anyone targetting 3:40/45?


  • #116
    TFBubendorfer
    Registered Users Posts: 6,340 ✭✭✭TFBubendorfer


    Mr Slow wrote: »
    Anyone targetting 3:40/45?

    The 3:45 pacers :D


  • #117
    Alayah Uninterested Silver
    Posts: 0 ✭ Alayah Uninterested Silver


    Mr Slow wrote: »
    Anyone targetting 3:40/45?

    Yep.

    Have only done one, a 3.59. Think I'm in better shape for this one so would like to aim for 3.45 anyway. Though not sure if that means I should set off with 3.30 pacers and kinda expect a flag, or just bowl along with the 3.45 crowd.


  • #118
    EauRouge79
    Registered Users Posts: 511 ✭✭✭EauRouge79


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Yep.

    Have only done one, a 3.59. Think I'm in better shape for this one so would like to aim for 3.45 anyway. Though not sure if that means I should set off with 3.30 pacers and kinda expect a flag, or just bowl along with the 3.45 crowd.

    I will be pacing 4hrs, so you could join us if you like and push on around the 20 mile mark if you feel good?


  • #119
    Blooming
    Registered Users Posts: 49 ✭Blooming


    Alayah Uninterested Silver wrote: »
    Mr Slow wrote: »
    Anyone targetting 3:40/45?

    Yep.

    Have only done one, a 3.59. Think I'm in better shape for this one so would like to aim for 3.45 anyway. Though not sure if that means I should set off with 3.30 pacers and kinda expect a flag, or just bowl along with the 3.45 crowd.

    I have a similar query. I'd love to do it in 3.45 but it might be a bit over optimistic.

    Is it better to go out with the 3.45 group but if you are struggling slow down until 4.00 pacers come along?

    Or should you start with 4.00 group and if you feel good at mile 20 push on? (as recommended above) my first marathon so haven't a clue :-)


  • #120
    Mr Slow
    Registered Users Posts: 6,554 ✭✭✭Mr Slow


    Even pace people, the only way to go.

    Run slow to begin with and try and hit your target in the end and you'll leave time on the course, run too fast to begin with and you increase the rate you burn energy and that will end in a bad day at the office.


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  • #121
    Mr Slow
    Registered Users Posts: 6,554 ✭✭✭Mr Slow


    Blooming wrote: »
    Is it better to go out with the 3.45 group but if you are struggling slow down until 4.00 pacers come along?

    If you do that you'll come in at the 4 hour mark so you may aswell have started off with the 4 hour pacers in the first place.


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