Cork GAA Discussion Thread

piplin wrote: »

ok. My sincere apologies. Never in my lifetime has there been such a negative attitude emanating out of Cork. It's like a beautiful dog who no longer wags it's tail. Sad.
Sow the seeds then and get it right, true gaels silently despair when we hear of a badly wounded Cork. Lets see what happens tomorrow.

You're like some kind of beautiful but misguided drunken poet.

Indie. wrote: »

I can only account for what the UCC lads have been exposed to. Who's to say members of other college teams did not have the same benefit.

Who's to say they did????
Highely unlikely all the panel did.Take the Likes of Mannix,Walsh and O Brien.

Before they had been dropped it is highely unlikely they had access to one through their clubs.
Kikworth and Kildorrey could hardly afford it.

Your point seems to be they had access

.Im on about the here and now also.A person to work with team as a group and individuals within the current system readily available to the team whenever needed like John Carey was in 2005 2006. One within their own inner circle.Every County in Munster hurling has used one the last few years and benifted.


Not just going back to UCC for example and having access only through that route.What happens when they leave UCC.???

Im a big fan if Sean og ever since i saw him dominate KK as a minor in 95.
I saw him make he debut in 96 under JBM in the pairc in the defeat to limerick at midfield.
I met him 3 years ago in Limerick and he was just in a shop bt was very obliging in giving me an autograph and talking away.

However their is right and wrong.I backed him to a hilt like many in the strikes and still do.But even as my hero i wont condone what he said about the small clubs.He was way out of line and should apologise as talking to a lot of cork men today like me were very angry and hurt by what he said.

He was right in a lot about what he said with the County board and deveopment squads but it will be lost in translation at what he said about the small places of cork.It was a terrible and shocking thing to say.
I posted the article as I know right from wrong.Many posters have attacked him in the past and without reason but today he was bang out of line.

I posted it as in not just one sided.Today he lost a lot of respect for what he said.The timing was way out of line as well.

He seemed to forget Newtown, in the late 90's is a small club as he refferred to as was virtually unknown then as they had not even won an intermediate title.He played with Ben o connor one of hes true friends.If Cork did not under JBM go outside the comforts of City domination we would never have seen him or Jerry or Pat Mulchay down the line.
The same with Castelyons,Carrightwohill ,Killeagh etc.Years ago they were small clubs.They gave us a new breed of player.He also did not hurt the new generation of Cork clubs but back in 1990 a small parish outside of Bandon gave us Mark Foley.

The Cork footballers are riddled with all ireland medal winners from junior clubs.
Alan O Connor of st Colums a classic example.A small parish so proud to produce an all ireland winner.
St itas today gave us the outstanding seamus Harnedy.
The days of City clubs ruling the roost in football or hurling is long gone and no matter whether your black or white,straight or gay,whatever club you come from doesnt matter a bit.All that matters is if your good enough to play for Cork.And many players have and will in the future play with cork but belong to a small club.
Im from an aera surronded by small clubs.Sean og,you need to remember their the heart beat of the GAA and the small clubs and its people were the bread and butter who supported Cork in ita greateset hour of need in the 3 strikes.
When bigger clubs woudnt allow the Strikers train ,Mourneabbey ,the place of Clyda rovers gratefully gave cork their ptich to train.

Sean og should apologise for that.He has reasons to be bitter but dont turn on those you may very well need in the future.

The wheel always turns a full circle.

Anyway on todays game it was the "sweetest victory in years.Up there with the 1999 victories,and the 2003'breakthrough win against clare.

It was truly emotional.To hear the banks being sung 25 minutes in really brought back memories of thurles in 2003 when our victory over clare in the first round brought the same reaction.
Their is a new bond forming with fans and this team.Noboddy gave us any chance at all,none of the experts .

I like many cork people thought the same.With such a weak bench ,shown by and rightly so JBm only using one 2 subs in the forwards this was remarakable.

I thought we would at best run them close but be out run in the end.But Jesus all the questions that needed to be answered were truly answered in superb fashion.

I had said Thursday night he had picked the best team bar one player and it was proven that JBM got it right.
Tom Kenny in fairness played hes part at half back but when Mcloghlin and Cronin come back ,he wont be good enough to hols down hes place.On today ,he wasnt superb but done hes job well.

I said here thursday Harndey was the Key.He was immense.As i said he is very raw but can only get better with games.

Hes goal chance he missed i dont blame him.Its that rawness in hes gamr.Hands over the head you could see he knew it was a mistake.But this guy has serious bottle and never can you fault hew effort.
I had hoped he would limit Bulger.He destroyed him and got three superb points but chased and ran all day and always put himself about and showed for the ball.I heard he was man of the match.Take a bow Seamus Harnedy and take a bow St Itas.

The key also was JBM made the correct subs.I had said after the league game that when Naughton was brought on woth Cussen i knew the game was up.

Today I knew the game was won when none of those two guys came on.The management deserve immense calls for making the brave calls and knowing the way forward is with the young players and not guys who have failed so many times in the past.
O neill,Connor Sullivan,Egan,Murphy were immense.Murphy proved again he is the best man marker around.But as i feared taking him from full back was nearly out of the frying pan and in to the fire.
Mcdonnell was roasted and thank god we had the wind as he got little ball the second half .Nash was brillant in he's puckouts but also hes saves and 2 points were immense.Another All star on the way.The guy was always shouting at the backs.A real leader.

Joyce was poor in the first half but he was played at midfield and hes touch was unsually slow.Hes confidence was definetly affected as he is like a fish out of water away from Centre back.He movee back deeper in the second half and was much better.
He needs to be centre back against Limerick.Their style will suit him.

Cian Macarthy i did not think would have the mobility for a full game.Hands up,I was wrong.He has benfited the most from Matthews training and today was everywhere.A great man to win a ball,he actually got stuck in today and it was hes best performance since 2011 in the gaelic grounds.

Pat horgan i have and rightly so criticsee you in the past.I asked that you grow a pair of balls.By god did you have balls today.At last he stood up.Credit due.
He fought for every ball and really led the players around him.
More of the same now.We know he has the talent but today he showed the attuide.A few cork men beside me felt he missed two bad frees.

I stood him for him:-)the first time ever.But today he could not be faulted as those frees were hard shots with such a swirling wind.

Luke O Farell was superb.All he needs is quick ball.

Jamie Coughlan by jesus ,your some man.A man in a boys shoes at just 21.
I had always said he was tenacious and would win dirty ball and knew he would be a super sub.First touch of the ball,he won a ball he had no right to win.Made a cruical score for cork.
Only just back from fitness he will get better.Some great points he got.

And finally,David Matthews,Credit due.I had said today was the true test.He talked the talk saturday but today he walked the walk.Cork were in super condition and blew clare away.I hold my hand up to you.

JBM ,nothing has been won yet but today victory was crucial for Cork hurling.More promising than 3 years ago against tipp as today we beat a team that really wanted to win today.This was without so many key players.

A tremendous win but watch now for the talk of allirelands.It shoudnt be mentioned.We are no where near that yet.But a lot of fair weather cork fans will jump on the band wagon and say were unbeatable.

We are far from that.What we have is a crucial win in Munster and against Limerick a realistic chance of a munster title ,the first since 2006.It will be a close game and who ever performs on the day will win.We now have momentum and with Cronin,Coughlan,Mcloghlin and Colm Spillane all due back have good reason to be positive.

Colm Splillane should be given the full back role .Its a brave call but like seamus Harnedy today,one that may well come off but at the worst is one for the future.Mcloughlin at half back,Cronin at midfield,the team suddenly has a spine to it.

At last we banished the curse of the gaelic grounds for our hurlers.

Well done to all today.

How did the ladies footballers get on against Kerry and the under 16 A and Bs camoige teams today anyone know please??

CorkonianRebel wrote: »

U16 A Championship Cork 7-2 Dublin 0-11, (F/T)

They do say goals win games!

thanks lad.Jesus the magnificent seven.

Fair play to them.A great weekend for cork hurling over all.
Wednesday night next up.Rte didnt show any of Corks win in the camoige.A disgrace.
Cork have a good chance this year.But JJ doyle is back with wexford he will still do the U21 mens team.Wexford willl regroup under him.

Interstingly Cusack was asked about Sean Og article.But typical Des Cahill. He has not got a clue.He should of asked about what he said about the small clubs.

Cusack was very good though and you could see he was caught between two evils.

He is right,Sean og and any player has the right to an opinion.But he said their behind JBM.
Sean og earned that right but to criticise the small clubs was a lack of respect and to suggest they dont deserve players on the cork team was just defying logic and foolish.

Cloyne back in the day were a small club that produced christy ring.Im sure Cusack does not agree with Sean og as im Sure cusack being a devoted club man would have loved if Ring had stayed with Cloyne and not went to the Glen.
Cusacks view would be cloyne are as good as anyone.

Sean og will come under more pressure as the week goes on.

On a different note it is a disgrace harnedy never made minor for Cork or U21.The U21 managers and minors made a huge mistake their.

It shows all thats wrong with the underage management in cork the last few years.

The mushroom theory is still rubbish after today.Their is still problems in Cork under age.But todays shows if we got the structures right and the right men in charge ,Cork would achieve anything as the talent is their.