Any update on the doolin harbour proposal?

timthesurfer wrote: »

The Examiner had a good piece on it the other day, and westcoastsurfer had a few bits on it. Its been rejected defo, new pier plan submitted now

The write up on Westcoastsurfer is pretty much a re-write of the article on the Examiner!

PeakOutput wrote: »

i think a counter proposal from the surfers lobby would go a long, if there was a surfer who had any sort of knowledge in this area or if the surfing association could fund raise to pay for a concept of how a pier could be constructed without affecting the wave could be a massive bonus and help the surfers image a bit

fair play to all those involved so far

This would be ideal however the funds just don’t seem to be there for such work, sure John Coady had to fund (with help of friends) his trip to Peru few months back.

Everyone working on this is doing it on their own time but if any of ye know of any expert/professionals in this area that would be willing to help out then please follow them up on this. Any ecologists, engineers, marine hydrologists, etc.

rodento wrote: »

CRenegade a good track to go down is for someone to study what happened with the pier on Inish Meinn. Spent loads on it but was'nt that suitable or safe, it had to be re built elsewhere, as ferries had difficulty using it in rough seas

Study may be of use next time round...

Cheers Rodento, Ill try dig some info up on this. If ya have any more info yourself can ya PM me.

The new pier application is available to view on the Clare Co. Co. website at: http://www.clarecoco.ie/planning/planning-applications/search-planning-applications/FileRefDetails.aspx?file_number=108010&LASiteID=0

To view the files click the 'View Scanned Files; button on that page. Files can only be viewed using Microsoft Internet Explorer.

Submissions can be made in respect of the proposed pier up to the 28th February. There is no fee for a submission and anyone can make one.

I'll try give an update in the coming days with a brief outline of the concerns for Crab Island and Doolin Point.

At first glance it appears the limited wave modelling carried out concluded there will be a 'slight' impact on waves and currents. However it seems that they did not have data for the area around Crab Island where waves are surfed and the conclusions cannot be seen as totally accurate.

Any questions just leave a reply.

I printed all the files to pdf and upladed them onto the net as a zip file, be warned it's 21 meg
http://www.box.net/shared/k9atnxzamf

The new application for the pier was submitted before christmas. See the links above for more details.

We now need every surfer to help fight for this by sending in their own submission to Clare Co. Co. - only costs a postage stamp!

Submissions outlining your concerns can be made (no fee required) on this new application until the last day in February to:

Planning Department,
Clare County Council
New Road,
Ennis
Co Clare

Quote in your heading: Proposed Pier Development at Doolin, Co. Clare Planning Reference 108010.

The report in the revised application from the County Council, together with its modelling plots, confirm that there will be an impact on the waves along with the currents. The proposed design WILL affect the waves in the area, and also make it substantially more dangerous for surfers accessing the water and waves due to increased currents, building on top of the paddle out slab and/ or forcing interaction / crossing of paths of paddling surfers and the ferries.

There was no consultation with surfers before the lodging of this new application.

Ive a small bit more info on my own site and will try update ye when I can - very busy with this and other stuff at the mo. BUT can all make sure they make a submission with the council before 28th Feb.

Cheers,
CRenegade.

latest two press items:

http://www.examiner.ie/ireland/politics/surfers-oppose-revised-6m-doolin-pier-plan-143718.html

http://irishexaminer.com/ireland/doolin-pier-plan-crucial-to-tourism-144396.html

The reporter doesn't seem to do full research and only quotes pieces from documents... Journalism???!

Every surfer please help fight for this by sending in your own submission to Clare Co. Co. - only costs a postage stamp!

Submissions outlining your concerns can be made (no fee required) on this new application until the last day in February to:

Planning Department,
Clare County Council,
Aras Contae an Chlair,
New Road,
Ennis,
Co Clare.

Quote in your heading: Proposed Pier Development at Doolin, Co. Clare Planning Reference 108010.

The report in the revised application from the County Council, together with its modelling plots, confirm that there will be an impact on the waves along with the currents. The proposed design WILL affect the waves in the area, and also make it substantially more dangerous for surfers accessing the water and waves due to increased currents, building on top of the paddle out slab and/ or forcing interaction / crossing of paths of paddling surfers and the ferries.

There was no consultation with surfers before the lodging of this new application.

Submissions have to be in By 4pm on 28th February 2011.

This is the 'last Chance Saloon'.

We will not be getting people to email and phone councillors before the vote as happened last time Because: we met with some of the councillors last week and they were not happy with this and wanted a coordinated approach from the surfing community.

We hope to meet with the councillors again.

We WCSC/ISA are lodging a comprehensive submission this week.

Latest News Article: http://www.examiner.ie/ireland/failte-ireland-opposes-pier-plan-147670.html

runman wrote: »

Doolin tourism group want this to go ahead..Theyre not concerned about the revenue generated from surfing, suppose its smaller than what will be created by truck loads of tourists passing through..

Doolin Tourism is operated by a person who owns a B&B specifically targeted at tourists visiting for the Doolin and aran islands experience i.e. americans. Her B&B website has a list of activities in the area including walking, horse riding, ferries to Aran islands etc. but not a mention of surfing.

The doolin tourism website is the same http://www.doolin-tourism.com/activities.html

Her and her friends income does not come from surfing or surf tourists and the construction of a new kick ass pier will increase her 'Type' of tourist to the area and more money in the back pocket.

Doolin tourism does not even recognise surfing as an activity in the area :rolleyes: Slightly biased if you ask me. Failte Ireland is not biased and their submission is impartial and accurate and should be given serious consideration.

While the pier may bring more of that type of visitor to the area it should not be at the expense of another activity and another stream of tourism. I prepared a surf economic report and found that surfing was worth approx. €33 million to the Lahinch area (Doolin, lahinch, doonbeg, etc.) in one year from irish surfers alone!

This prob sounds like im attacking you runman - im not but your post just let me get some steam off!

runman wrote: »

Doolin tourism group want this to go ahead..Theyre not concerned about the revenue generated from surfing, suppose its smaller than what will be created by truck loads of tourists passing through..

Do you keep your word? I always try to. Clare CC said it would do a proper wave model, it hasn't, it's a white wash. If they are allowed to get way with it then what next?

They are advocating that 6 million euros of your's and my money gets spend on a pier so that they can make somemore money? Not a living but more money, and that's what this is all about. So what if they trash a world class wave in the process.

Where is this funding coming from for the new pier, eu?

http://www.clarechampion.ie/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5589:inadequate-pier-is-hurting-doolin-tourism&catid=74:general&Itemid=60

It's a bit freaky reading someone quoting you in a newspaper article...

On what grounds can you say that, funding is in place, all they need is the permission:rolleyes:

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2011/0321/1224292707900.html

Looks like they want to start construction soon

As far as I can see they have no fore shore license applicaon made either.

What are the WCSC planning are they going to keep trying? Or do they believe it's over.

They aren't keeping people up to date it's difficult from the outside to see what's going on or if any help can be given.... please regular updates to keep this alive.