Neighbourhood Watch Merged Thread

[Deleted User] · 18-08-2014 4:33pm

Just a few things to look out for in your estate regards to break ins.

Alot of the people doing the break ins are a man and a woman. They will drive into the estate first for some recon and then drive out usually parking the car around the corner.

License plates are almost never Dublin.

If they target your house, they will relentlessly knock at your door until you answer or a neighbors door. If you answer they will ask for somebody as if they got the wrong house or try offer you a service. If no answer they will break in.

They have stepped up their level of communication and recon work. They are constantly in contact with each other. They will constantly visit estates learning what cars are in what drive way. They will get themselves familiar with your estate with constant visits, knowing the comings and the goings.
The send women into estates on mobile phones looking for suitable targets, houses that they have per-targeted, with the woman feeding back if there is a car in the driveway or if there are too many people around.

Houses they tend to go for .......
No porch,
Houses closer to a main road easy getaway.
Houses with alot of cover (trees/bushes)
Corner Houses
Houses with the blinds down and no windows open.

Best prevention .........

Clear Visible CCTV , these guys dont want to be seen.
Alarm Visible so it can be seen.
Be vigilant with your neighbors, if a car comes creeping in, let them see you watching.
Make their visits to the estate as uncomfortable as possible.
Not any suspicious cars license plate numbers.

horse7 · 20-08-2014 9:54am

Excellent post.

[Deleted User] · 20-08-2014 11:40pm

The last bit is Note any suspicious cars license plate numbers.

Also just keep aware of the woman sitting in the car on the mobile phone. They are playing a big part in this. They feed the information to the guys out on the streets.

athtrasna · 21-08-2014 8:30pm

Two boys going door to door looking for sponsorship tonight in Waterville, Irish, about 11 years old. Appeared about the same time as a beige mondeo with three guys in it were randomly driving around. Reported it to our neighbourhood watch guy. Can't help but be suspicious

jack presley · 21-08-2014 9:06pm

athtrasna wrote: »

Two boys going door to door looking for sponsorship tonight in Waterville, Irish, about 11 years old. Appeared about the same time as a beige mondeo with three guys in it were randomly driving around. Reported it to our neighbourhood watch guy. Can't help but be suspicious

This thread has me kind of paranoid a bit now too. I had a girl (late teens/early 20's I'd say) knock on the door last week during the day looking for bus fare as her brother had been in a motorcycle accident and she needed to get to the hospital to see him. She said she was from 'around the corner' but I'd never seen her before so I don't know was it genuine, just trying to scam a few quid or checking the place out to see were people home.

January · 21-08-2014 9:25pm

Bit of both maybe... We had the same a couple of months ago, blondish girl, probably early 20's. Knocked on the door and asked for money for bus fare because her mam was after being rushed into hospital. My partner told her no and she asked him to ask me. No means no... sorry love... I'd never seen her before and I'd know most people to see around here.

[Deleted User] · 13-09-2014 1:33pm

Just to give people an update. There has been a sharp decrease on break-ins in the last month.(touch wood)
Last time something happened was last month in which photos were taken but the flash accidentally went off and they sped out of the estate :P Still getting zero response from the Gardai.

dmm82 · 15-09-2014 3:53pm

My neighbour was broken into last saturday in the middle of the afternoon. .. They had just popped out for an hour. Plenty of people out and about and in gardens and still got done!

PucaMama · 15-09-2014 4:30pm

dmm82 wrote: »

My neighbour was broken into last saturday in the middle of the afternoon. .. They had just popped out for an hour. Plenty of people out and about and in gardens and still got done!

im always hearing in my house "they wont do it when were in the house" or "its too early/bright"

this is worrying

horse7 · 15-09-2014 9:26pm

So how about some details,what area,was it alarmed,how was entry gained,what was taken?

dmm82 · 16-09-2014 4:10pm

They came in through the back, I don't think the alarm was on. However they did have CCTV cameras that the robber broke! I'm not sure what was taken but I know that the place was in a state when they got back and there were knives left around the place

I was home at the time and didnt see or hear a thing.

Danger Ongar Area · 18-09-2014 12:22am

Guy tried to assault me tonight.

Ongar - the long wooded laneway between Ongar village and top of Ongar road.

Locals will know the place. Roundabouts at both ends.

Anyway - Male approx 180cm/...maybe 5'10, early 20's, race-black/African.
Clothes: red hoody, black skinny jeans, white runners. Hoody pulled tight around head so cant say about hairstyle.

Important - that laneway: approx 1 km long, beside a school, Ongar village at one end, roundabout of the top of Ongar road at the other end: Is not safe. Its well lit, but I wont be using it at night anymore.

It may not even be a great route during daylight hours.

Please spread the word, that route is dangerous at night.

Story: Out for a stroll/bit of a jog. Was walking up said laneway, male coming towards me asked me for a smoke, replied 'no', asked again ... perhaps foolishly I said no again, I knew it was probably trouble at this point.... turned to see him moving quickly towards me raising his fists - raised my own fists and gave my best war scream.(locals for two kilometers may have heard this). He backed off and told me to keep going...which I very gladly did.

What troubled me though is the nature of the situation - I was going into a fight for my life in my book, others may say thats an exaggeration, but for all I knew at the time thats what it was.

Any stranger attempting to assault you, in a secluded area, is an attempted murder.

Chances are it was a mugging attempt, but how many muggings have gone wrong, concussions lead to loss of consciousness - if you're lying in the wrong position you can stop breathing.

How did he plan to take my wallet from my trouser pocket if I was still moving, there was no demand for money - just zero to combat.
He may have been carrying a blade for all I knew/know, he initially had his hands in his pockets.

Rang the Gardai and reported it they said they'd send a car.

Twitter, Facebook, forums - anyone who knows the area please pass it on - get the word out - that route is not safe at night.

Thanks.

Gaspode · 18-09-2014 7:02am

I appreciate you're upset but an isolated incident doesn't make an area unsafe. Have there been more attacks on that stretch?

Trademark · 18-09-2014 8:42am

There was a spate of attacks on mainly women in the morning at the beginning of last year, along the pedestrianised tree lined road that used to be the main Clonee-Clonsilla road pre Ongar days, the one with the small wooden cross in the ground where Arthur Murphy was killed in a crash years ago.

Search for Attacks in Ongar and you'll find the thread.

fletch · 18-09-2014 8:45am

Yes it also featured on Crimecall

Arciphel · 18-09-2014 10:17am

I wouldn't walk down that stretch of road in broad daylight.

In my opinion they should either block it off completely, or else re-open it up to vehicle traffic and cut all the trees back so the visibility is better.

"Danger Ongar Area" make sure you follow up with the guards about this and don't let them fob you off with the usual excuses about lack of resources. :rolleyes:

Ed Winchester · 18-09-2014 10:22am

Is this the rat road?

fletch · 18-09-2014 10:29am

Ed Winchester wrote: »

Is this the rat road?

From the OP's description, yes it is

Ed Winchester · 18-09-2014 10:32am

fletch wrote: »

From the OP's description, yes it is

I was thinking that but the roundabout at both ends bit threw me.

fletch · 18-09-2014 10:35am

Ed Winchester wrote: »

I was thinking that but the roundabout at both ends bit threw me.

Fair point, perhaps Danger Ongar can clarify

Larbre34 · 18-09-2014 11:26am

Hope you're feeling Ok DOA.

That road was far safer when you used to be able to drive out the back of Ongar down to the Phibblestown Road, cars going by made it safer from a passive security aspect.

I complained to the Council about it when they were wasting the money putting up the street lights with no other measures for personal security. The road is nothing more than a trap with very few options to leave it in a hurry. It should have been absorbed into the adjoining parks so it would be opened up completely. I cut a run short down that road myself one night and found it decidedly sketchy, I'm a large hairy fecker and even I wouldn't go that way alone again.

I would suggest to the poster that he email the description of the incident to the Mulhuddart ward Councillors and agitate to have the large trees cut well back and more exits created from the road, at the very least.

Danger Ongar Area · 18-09-2014 1:30pm

Just to clarify its a stretch about 1km long with a roundabout directly touching one end, the second roundabout being about 150 meters to the right when exiting said laneway.
I believe the estate at one end is manor fields. There's a bus stop at this same end, for the 39.

There is indeed a cross/memorial as one boardsie mentioned above.
There are green areas on both sides and its tree lined on both sides.
One of the green areas has goal posts.

This lane allows foot traffic to the rear of ongar village, entrance to a school and also a side entrance to a small development which may be called phibblestown something something.

fletch · 18-09-2014 1:47pm

This is the lane.

December2012 · 18-09-2014 3:09pm

Hope you're ok Danger Ongar Area - thanks for the heads up.

Polar101 · 19-09-2014 10:00am

Arciphel wrote: »

I wouldn't walk down that stretch of road in broad daylight.

Okay, but if you did, you would notice you share the road with families with young children and other not-exactly-dangerous people like that.

Larbre34 · 19-09-2014 10:13am

Polar101 wrote: »

Okay, but if you did, you would notice you share the road with families with young children and other not-exactly-dangerous people like that.

Only sometimes. To be fair there are times in the middle of the day and evening alike when its very quiet down there.

Kev. · 20-09-2014 2:02am

People in gaza are looking at this thread praying nothing as bad happens to them

CrazyRabbit · 20-09-2014 4:16am

Kev. wrote: »

People in gaza are looking at this thread praying nothing as bad happens to them

What the hell has Gaza got to do with neighbourhood watch in Dublin 15?
Our 'concerns' may seem trivial in comparison to the daily troubles in Gaza but they are no less real.

dibs101 · 20-09-2014 6:47am

Kev. wrote: »

People in gaza are looking at this thread praying nothing as bad happens to them

Your in the wrong thread. The save the world after 6 cans of Dutch gold thread is somewhere else. This is for people who want to be kept informed about anti social behaviour and crime on their community. Start your own thread about the current issues in gaza, with meaningful and insightful posts like above I'm sure people will be dying to comment in your thread. Don't forget to post your above post in the playstation bargains thread too, where it will be equally as relevant.

The Hill Billy · 20-09-2014 9:16am

Kev. wrote: »

People in gaza are looking at this thread praying nothing as bad happens to them

Kev. - If you have nothing constructive to add, don't bother posting again in this thread.

tHB

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