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Silk Road: The eBay of Illegal Drugs

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    #62
    Pace2008
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,587 ✭✭✭Pace2008


    Grayson wrote: »
    Most ecstacy pills that are made don't have MDMA. They have MDEA or other derivitives. Because they're easier and cheaper to make.
    Do you have any evidence to support this? Most of the knowledge regarding the content comes from users using pill-testing kits on the product. Marquis turns blue/black in the presence of MDMA and purplish with MDEA, so they should be easily distinguished.

    I've been off the whole pill scene for the last year and a bit (promise I'll make up for it at EP though ;)); haven't been checking pillreports and the like. The only ones I've had in recent times were blue ghosts and I thought they weren't great, though apparently there are/were lots of different batches of varying quality.


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    #63
    Grayson
    Registered Users Posts: 16,126 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    Pace2008 wrote: »
    Do you have any evidence to support this? Most of the knowledge regarding the content comes from users using pill-testing kits on the product. Marquis turns blue/black in the presence of MDMA and purplish with MDEA, so they should be easily distinguished.

    I've been off the whole pill scene for the last year and a bit (promise I'll make up for it at EP though ;)); haven't been checking pillreports and the like. The only ones I've had in recent times were blue ghosts and I thought they weren't great, though apparently there are/were lots of different batches of varying quality.

    I've been off the scene for about 6-7 years. last time for me it was mitzies, speckled mitzies and bacardies. :) Back then pill reports was showing most pills as other derivatives. Ireland was always bad for it. It was very hard to get pure MDMA. And there could be a huge variance in the quality of the pill after you took it.
    I like the idea of dealers building up reputations online. I think it's slightly safer than getting random stuff off a friend of a friend of a friend.


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    #64
    ScumLord
    Registered Users Posts: 28,789 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    The Backwards Man wrote: »
    Not doing drugs is an even cheaper, healthier, and much less dangerous way of working.
    Lots' of things are slightly dangerous and damaging to your health but if you didn't take risks your life wouldn't be worth living. Not doing drugs would be like never listening to rock music because they didn't like it in the 50s.
    Billy86 wrote: »
    I had three pints on Monday, before and during the Man Utd-Chelsea game. Guess that makes me an alcoholic so?
    Seems to be under some people's definition. If you have a spliff your a stoner, so if you drink a pint that makes you an alco by association.


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    #65
    jalan8984
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 24 ✭jalan8984


    ScumLord wrote: »
    Not doing drugs would be like never listening to rock music because they didn't like it in the 50s.

    :confused:


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    #66
    chopper6
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,214 ✭✭✭chopper6


    Grayson wrote: »
    I've been off the scene for about 6-7 years. last time for me it was mitzies, speckled mitzies and bacardies. :) Back then pill reports was showing most pills as other derivatives. Ireland was always bad for it. It was very hard to get pure MDMA. And there could be a huge variance in the quality of the pill after you took it.
    I like the idea of dealers building up reputations online. I think it's slightly safer than getting random stuff off a friend of a friend of a friend.

    Round about ten years ago the pills were FAR better than anything knocking around now...there were Mitsubishis,Rolexes,Supermen,Coke Bottles,Doves,Speckled Doves,Mosquitos and a host of others all high in MDMA.

    The stuff available now with teh possible exception of Red Def Cons are scaggy rubbish with no actual "pill buzz" to them at all.....Or so i hear.


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    #67
    fatknacker
    Registered Users Posts: 2,342 ✭✭✭fatknacker


    General General wrote: »
    I've got patent pending on an icon of a pair of trainers tied together that hangs across the address bar of a browser to indicate that drugs are sold on the site in question at certain times of the day.

    I'm going to make a f`cking mint.

    Not unless I get in there first with my curser that changes to the white posing lady statue in the window while the page loads!


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    #68
    Billy86
    Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    ScumLord wrote: »
    Seems to be under some people's definition. If you have a spliff your a stoner, so if you drink a pint that makes you an alco by association.
    It's a bit sad really, isn't it? You could count the number of spliffs I smoke per year with your fingers (and that's not the whole thing, just the odd drag after a night out) and I don't drink that much. My only two addictions would be caffeine and nicotine (and I'm giving my latest crack at quitting on Sep 1, wish me luck!). But I don't see the harm in people taking the more recreational stuff occasionally, some of the smartest and most successful people I know like to unwind after a stressful day with a joint or let loose with some MDMA the odd weekend.

    It's all quite petty and sad, and really just an easy way to try and discredit someone's argument when you (well, they) have no strong logical recourse. A bit like when people tell foreigners "if you don't like it go home" or try to fob off Muslim's as terrorists when one of them points out a flaw or unflattering historical fact about Christianity.


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    #69
    kneemos
    Registered Users Posts: 20,408 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    ScumLord wrote: »
    Lots' of things are slightly dangerous and damaging to your health but if you didn't take risks your life wouldn't be worth living. Not doing drugs would be like never listening to rock music because they didn't like it in the 50s.

    Seems to be under some people's definition. If you have a spliff your a stoner, so if you drink a pint that makes you an alco by association.

    Drugs are boring.


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    #70
    hatrickpatrick
    Registered Users Posts: 17,797 ✭✭✭✭hatrickpatrick


    Sunglasses Ron wrote: »
    It's not as simple as going to the Silk Road website or anything.

    You first have to access something called the Deep Web (god knows) and pay with some crap called Bitcoins.

    Basically the thing looks so complicated it gave me a headache.

    Honestly, the deep web takes maybe 10 minutes to set up. 15 if you're completely technologically illiterate. :rolleyes:


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    #71
    hatrickpatrick
    Registered Users Posts: 17,797 ✭✭✭✭hatrickpatrick


    Regarding the stoner debate, I have one friend who has literally done every mind altering substance under the sun, and has been known to mix several hard drugs (AND alcohol) in the same night.

    He also happens to be one of the smartest and most down to earth guys I know.

    Whether or not you'll become a stereotypical "stoner" or not depends a lot more on your pre-drugs personality than what drugs you take.


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    #72
    Grayson
    Registered Users Posts: 16,126 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    Billy86 wrote: »
    It's a bit sad really, isn't it? You could count the number of spliffs I smoke per year with your fingers (and that's not the whole thing, just the odd drag after a night out) and I don't drink that much. My only two addictions would be caffeine and nicotine (and I'm giving my latest crack at quitting on Sep 1, wish me luck!). But I don't see the harm in people taking the more recreational stuff occasionally, some of the smartest and most successful people I know like to unwind after a stressful day with a joint or let loose with some MDMA the odd weekend.

    Good luck with giving up smoking. i found it incredibly hard and i ended up smoking a year later. Grass on the other hand was no problem. I smoked a lot years ago and i kinda just stopped. By the time i gave up cigarettes I was smoking very rarely. I even bought a small bong when i gave up smoking cigarettes because i didn't want to smoke tobacco. A year later I hadn't used it so it shows how rarely i toked.


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    #73
    smellmepower
    Closed Accounts Posts: 829 ✭✭✭smellmepower


    Can just go on Topix or most of those ad sites and buy pretty much whatever you want.Pay with a disposable money card like Ukash etc.Mate of mine buys Xanax and other downers regular enough.


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    #74
    Billy86
    Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    Grayson wrote: »
    Good luck with giving up smoking. i found it incredibly hard and i ended up smoking a year later. Grass on the other hand was no problem. I smoked a lot years ago and i kinda just stopped. By the time i gave up cigarettes I was smoking very rarely. I even bought a small bong when i gave up smoking cigarettes because i didn't want to smoke tobacco. A year later I hadn't used it so it shows how rarely i toked.
    I was the same with grass - I blame Ireland being such a boring place to be honest, because I moved to Australia in 2011, and it never even occurred to me to bother smoking over there. I figured then that it was just something to do to pass the time or kill the boredom.

    I've quit ciggies before for a few months at a go, but for one reason or another have slipped back in. I find the first 2-3 days not so bad, the next 7-10 days after that usually being AWFUL and just really tedious... then it tends to be grand. Think I just get too lax on and wind up reverting back. Getting older now though, so hopefully that puts the sh**s up me enough to keep off them. :p


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    #75
    Grayson
    Registered Users Posts: 16,126 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    I went and checked out this site last night. installed tor etc... and got onto it. It is a very basic site but you'd expect it to be. there was pretty much everything you could ask for drug wise. It's surprising how much there is. I found a wiki for tor that listed other sites that are similar so it appears it's not alone.

    A word of warning to everyone else though. you probably don't want to look at TOR unless you have an actual reason to. I probably won't be logging back on. randomly clicking around i ended up seeing stuff that made me close the browser, wash myself and my computer in bleach and hide under my bed. I can understand a dissident in china using it to contact the ourside world, but the recreational uses for the rest of us is pretty limited.


    btw, Krebs wrote an article on silk road after someone tried to send drugs to him and get him arrested. It's quite funny.

    http://krebsonsecurity.com/2013/07/mail-from-the-velvet-cybercrime-underground/


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    #76
    FouxDaFaFa
    Registered Users Posts: 6,850 ✭✭✭FouxDaFaFa


    ^^

    Yeah, anyone reading this thread and thinking "ah, might have a gawk at the deep web", go in with your eyes open. It's not all bad stuff but there's a hell of a lot of bad stuff.


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    #77
    Hoop66
    Registered Users Posts: 2,297 ✭✭✭Hoop66


    Child porn. Lots and lots of child porn.

    In case anyone's wondering.


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    #78
    My name is URL
    Registered Users Posts: 25,059 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    Hoop66 wrote: »
    Child porn. Lots and lots of child porn.

    In case anyone's wondering.

    Yet over 95% of it is hosted on the 'clear web'. There was a woman interviewed on Moncrieff a few weeks ago, some specialist in combating that stuff and she mentioned that.

    I'm not gonna try looking for a link to back that up because I don't want to search Google for 'where all the child porn at?'


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    #79
    listermint
    Registered Users Posts: 33,615 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    My name is URL wrote: »
    Yet over 95% of it is hosted on the 'clear web'. There was a woman interviewed on Moncrieff a few weeks ago, some specialist in combating that stuff and she mentioned that.

    I'm not gonna try looking for a link to back that up because I don't want to search Google for 'where all the child porn at?'

    but you just typed it....

    kick his door in

    shazam your in cuffs homes.


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    #80
    My name is URL
    Registered Users Posts: 25,059 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    listermint wrote: »
    but you just typed it....

    kick his door in

    shazam your in cuffs homes.

    I better call Saul :p


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    #81
    Caliden
    Registered Users Posts: 5,982 ✭✭✭Caliden


    Here is a good follow up read with the author getting a chance to talk with the owner of Silk Road - 'Dread Pirate Roberts' :

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/andygreenberg/2013/08/14/meet-the-dread-pirate-roberts-the-man-behind-booming-black-market-drug-website-silk-road/1/


    There are some rumours that the name is handed down from one owner to the next and that the first 'Dread Pirate Roberts' retired a few years ago.


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    #82
    ALiasEX
    Registered Users Posts: 535 ✭✭✭ALiasEX


    My name is URL wrote: »
    Yet over 95% of it is hosted on the 'clear web'. There was a woman interviewed on Moncrieff a few weeks ago, some specialist in combating that stuff and she mentioned that.

    I'm not gonna try looking for a link to back that up because I don't want to search Google for 'where all the child porn at?'

    I presume that 95% figure is made up mostly of children naked on webcams, naked pictures from phones, etc. I doubt the worst of it stays on the clear web for long.


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    #83
    refusetolose
    Registered Users Posts: 2,559 ✭✭✭refusetolose


    silk road 2.0 is up and running :)

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/andygreenberg/2013/11/06/silk-road-2-0-launches-promising-a-resurrected-black-market-for-the-dark-web/


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    FouxDaFaFa
    Registered Users Posts: 6,850 ✭✭✭FouxDaFaFa


    refusetolose wrote: »
    silk road 2.0 is up and running :)

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/andygreenberg/2013/11/06/silk-road-2-0-launches-promising-a-resurrected-black-market-for-the-dark-web/
    The mayor of Toronto will be delighted.


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