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Harty Cup 14/15

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 109 ✭✭Breadandbutter


    Dr. Harty Cup Group Tables after Round 2
    Group 1 Teams Played Wins Lost Draw Points
    Thurles CBS 2 1 0 1 3
    Ardscoil Ris 1 1 0 0 2
    Blackwater CS 2 1 1 0 2
    West Limerick Col 1 0 0 1 1
    St Flannans Col 2 0 2 0 0

    Group 2 Teams Played Wins Lost Draw Points
    Gaelcholaiste Mhuire AG 2 2 0 0 4
    St Colmans Fermoy 2 1 1 0 2
    Castletroy CC 1 1 0 0 2
    DLS Waterford Col 2 0 2 0 0
    SNTN Doon 1 0 1 0 0

    Group 3 Teams Played Wins Lost Draw Points
    P.S Youghal 2 2 0 0 4
    Rochestown College 1 1 0 0 2
    Our Lady’s Templemore 2 1 1 0 2
    Charleville CBS 2 0 2 0 0
    St Caimins Shannon 1 0 1 0 0

    Group 4 Teams Played Wins Lost Draw Points
    Dungarvan CBS 2 1 1 0 2
    Hamilton HS Bandon 1 1 0 0 2
    Midleton CBS 1 1 0 0 2
    Nenagh CBS 2 1 1 0 2
    HS Clonmel 2 0 2 0 0


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 109 ✭✭Breadandbutter


    Dr. Harty Cup Group Tables after Round 2
    Group 1 Teams Played Wins Lost Draw Points
    Thurles CBS 2 1 0 1 3
    Ardscoil Ris 1 1 0 0 2
    Blackwater CS 2 1 1 0 2
    West Limerick Col 1 0 0 1 1
    St Flannans Col 2 0 2 0 0

    Group 2 Teams Played Wins Lost Draw Points
    Gaelcholaiste Mhuire AG 2 2 0 0 4
    St Colmans Fermoy 2 1 1 0 2
    Castletroy CC 1 1 0 0 2
    DLS Waterford Col 2 0 2 0 0
    SNTN Doon 1 0 1 0 0

    Group 3 Teams Played Wins Lost Draw Points
    P.S Youghal 2 2 0 0 4
    Rochestown College 1 1 0 0 2
    Our Lady’s Templemore 2 1 1 0 2
    Charleville CBS 2 0 2 0 0
    St Caimins Shannon 1 0 1 0 0

    Group 4 Teams Played Wins Lost Draw Points
    Dungarvan CBS 2 1 1 0 2
    Hamilton HS Bandon 1 1 0 0 2
    Midleton CBS 1 1 0 0 2
    Nenagh CBS 2 1 1 0 2
    HS Clonmel 2 0 2 0 0

    Great to see 2 Cork schools on top points at top of their groups - hope it stays that way


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,276 ✭✭✭thinkstoomuch1


    The key game for Ag mhuire is in two weeks time in Mallow,top of the group clash v Castletroy who beat their young team last year in Mallow,who played just one game but won it.

    Ag should be able on paper to win,but it will be very very tough imo.
    Lorcan lyons captain Limerick minor,with Barry Nash and Andrew la Touche Cosgrave Limerick minors this year,getting the match ups corrrect will be crucial For Ag Mhuire ,otherwise they will loose imo.

    Andrew la Touche Cosgrave must be Marked by Adam O Donovan,and,Eddie Gunning must move out if needs be and mark Barry Nash.
    Liam Coughlan battle with Lorcan Lyons at midfield could be epic.
    Cosgrave  had played as a roving forward role for monaleen and school and is lethal as a forward but it will be intersting if he drops as a defender.If he does hell strengthen them but weaken the forwards.

    Either team could win it ,but with lee,dan gunning,inside and hanafiin they have scoring.

    Rochestown should if kingston is avaible beat youghal so you would have two cork teams in that group fighting for two places.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 109 ✭✭Breadandbutter


    another round f fixtures this week - looking forward to it

    We'll have an idea who's shaping up during week

    Good luck to all the cork schools


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,460 ✭✭✭Orizio


    Anyone have the fixtures for next week?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 109 ✭✭Breadandbutter


    Fixtures all on Cork Thread if you haven't seen them Orizio

    AG seem to be having a right cut off it this year, and Castltroy not too shy with 2 Or 3 Limk minors and a good share of their players drawn from Monaleen who are in Intermediate final and Ahane another hurling stronghold

    their game tomorrow one of the big clashes


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 109 ✭✭Breadandbutter


    Good luck to all the cork schools tomorrow - Corcaigh Abu


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,264 ✭✭✭✭Fireball07


    Dr. Harty Cup Round 3
    St Flannans Col v West Limerick Colleges in Sixmilebridge at 1.30pm
    SNTN Doon v DLS Waterford in Clomel at 1.30pm
    Gaelcolaiste Mhuire AG v Castletroy CC in Charelille at 1.30pm
    Rochestown v PS Youghal in Cobh at 2.30pm
    Our Ladys Templemore v St Caimins Shannon in Nenagh at 1.30pm
    Ham HS Bandon V HS Clonmel in Fermoy at 1.30pm
    Dungarvan CBS V Midleton CBS in Ardmore at 1.30pm


    Just to have in thread.


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,460 ✭✭✭Orizio


    Harty Cup Result
    Dungarvan CBS 1.11 - 3.12 Midleton CBS


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,460 ✭✭✭Orizio


    Munster GAA Post Primary Schools Dr. Harty Cup Our Ladys Templemore 1-10 St. Caimins Shannon 2-16 (FT)


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  • Registered Users Posts: 9,460 ✭✭✭Orizio


    Harty cup result; SNTN Doon 3-17 DLS Waterford 3-10


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,460 ✭✭✭Orizio


    Harty cup result; west Limerick col 3-17 St Flannans 0-9


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,460 ✭✭✭Orizio


    Castletroy 2.13 Gaelcoláiste Mhuire AG 18 Result


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,460 ✭✭✭Orizio


    Hammies 5-13 Clonmel 3-13 Result


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,460 ✭✭✭Orizio


    Harty Cup Rochestown 1-18 Youghal 1-8 (FT) @munstergaa@corks96fm (via @gaajourno)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,101 ✭✭✭Rightwing


    Orizio wrote: »
    Harty cup result; west Limerick col 3-17 St Flannans 0-9

    Flannans have fallen some way when they get done on a score like that.


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,460 ✭✭✭Orizio


    Their pick is now a lot smaller. Had a good Dean Ryan team though.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 109 ✭✭Breadandbutter


    from Munster GAA:
    The Dr. Harty Cup groups are beginning to take shape after seven games in Round 3 took place on Wednesday.
    West Limerick Colleges 3-17 St Flannans Col 0-9
    West Limerick Colleges remain undefeated, along with Thurles CBS and Ard Scoil Ris, following their 3-17 to 0-9 victory over winless St. Flannans College. Led by 11 points by Seamus Flanagan, 4 from play, West Limerick Colleges took this game by the scruff of the neck from the start and led by 1-11 to 0-1 after 23 minutes, the goal coming from Cian Magner Flynn. By the interval, the margin was 1-12 to 0-4. The scoring rate in the second half was not as prolific but St. Flannans were unable to make any impression and two late goals by Brian Hurley and sub Luke Ryan ensured a 17 point win for the Limerick amalgamation.
    Castletroy CC 2-13 Gaelcolaiste Mhuire AG 0-18
    In Group 2, one of the games of the round saw Castletroy CC record their second win against the previously undefeated Gaelcolaiste Mhuire AG, winning by 2-13 to 0-18. There was little between the teams in the opening half with Gaelcolaiste Mhuire AG in front until a 23rd minute Andrew La Touche Cosgrove goal ensured the teams would be level at the interval, 1-7 to 0-10. Eoin Hourigan scored Castletroy’s second goal three minutes in to the second half as the Limerick side raced in to a seven point lead. To their credit, Gaelcolaiste Mhuire AG didn’t throw in the towel and with Daithi Braham and Evan O’Siochan in scoring form up front, they dominated the final stages but were unable to find an equaliser as Castletroy held out for a one point victory.
    SNTN Doon 3-17 DLS Waterford 3-10
    In the other game in the group, last year’s finalists SNTN Doon kept their hopes of qualification alive with a 3-17 to 3-10 victory over De La Salle Waterford. Doon led by 1-8 to 0-6 at half-time courtesy of a Colin Ryan goal. Though Ryan would score a second goal early in the second half, De La Salle responded with three goals and heading in to the final 10 minutes, Doon led by a single point. However, Doon finished stronger and a goal from Joe Lonergan helped Doon record a 7 point victory.
    St. Francis Rochestown 1-18 PS Youghal 1-8
    In Group 3, St. Francis Rochestown proved too strong for PS Youghal, winning by 1-18 to 1-8 with man of the match Ciaran Cormack scoring 13 points, 9 from frees. The game was close in the opening stages with Rochestown leading by 0-6 to 0-4 after 20 minutes. However, Youghal dominated the rest of the first half to race in to a 0-13 to 0-6 interval lead.
    Youghal needed a goal to get back in to the game and this arrived on 36 minutes courtesy of substitute Brian Lynch. Despite the goal, Rochestown were still finding point scoring easier and when Shane Kingston scored a Rochestown goal midway through the second half, the result was never in doubt.
    St Caimins Shannon 2-16 Our Ladys Templemore 1-10
    In the other game in this group, St. Caimins Shannon recorded their first win of the campaign when they dominated the final quarter to run out 2-16 to 1-10 winners over Our Ladys Templemore. In a low scoring first half, Caimins recorded the first two scores before Templemore took over, scoring five of the next six points to lead by 0-5 to 0-3 after 18 minutes. Through the accuracy of Aron Shanagher from placed balls, Caimins added four points before the interval to ensure the Shannon team led by 0-7 to 0-6 at half-time. 9 of the 13 first half points came from placed balls with both teams scoring two points each from play.
    St. Caimins scored the first 3 points of the second half to stretch their lead to 0-10 to 0-6. However, with Lyndon Fairbrother in good form up front, Templemore went on a 1-4 to 0-1 run, the goal arriving in the 43rd minute courtesy of Fairbrother to race in to a 1-10 to 0-11 lead heading in the final quarter. Caimins scored the next 2 points to level proceedings until the game changed in the 54th minute. A short line ball for Our Ladys didn’t go to plan and with the Templemore defence out of position, St. Caimins took full advantage to engineer a goal finished by Rory Hayes. A quick Caimins point followed before a long ball by Aron Shanagher found Cathaoir Agnew who dispatched the ball to the Templemore net and effectively ended the game as a contest with the Shannon team adding two late points for good measure. Aron Shanagher top scored for Caimins with 7 pointed frees while Ben O’Connor added four points, 2 from play. Lyndon Fairbrother scored 1-5 for Our Ladys with four points coming from frees.
    Midleton CBS 3-12 Dungarvan CBS 1-11
    In Group 4, Midleton CBS defeated Dungarvan CBS by 3-12 to 1-11. Gary Leahy got Midleton off to a perfect start with an early goal as the Cork side raced in to a seven point lead after 20 minutes. Dungarvan dominated the final stages of the first half with Sean Crotty in good form and by the interval, Midleton’s lead was down to 3, 1-8 to 0-8. Dungarvan dominated the early stages of the second half and despite some early wides, they drew level in the 35th minute when a Darragh Lyons long range free ended up in the Midleton net. Sean Crotty added two further points and Dungarvan now led by 2. Midleton drew level entering the final quarter before the Cork school hit the front again courtesy of a John Looney goal. Midleton never looked back from here with Jack McDonnell adding a third goal to ensure a 7 point victory.
    Hamilton HS Bandon 5-13 HS Clonmel 3-13
    The other game in the group was the highest scoring match of the day with Hamilton HS Bandon defeating HS Clonmel by 5-13 to 3-13


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,101 ✭✭✭Rightwing


    from Munster GAA:
    The Dr. Harty Cup groups are beginning to take shape after seven games in Round 3 took place on Wednesday.
    West Limerick Colleges 3-17 St Flannans Col 0-9
    West Limerick Colleges remain undefeated, along with Thurles CBS and Ard Scoil Ris, following their 3-17 to 0-9 victory over winless St. Flannans College. Led by 11 points by Seamus Flanagan, 4 from play, West Limerick Colleges took this game by the scruff of the neck from the start and led by 1-11 to 0-1 after 23 minutes, the goal coming from Cian Magner Flynn. By the interval, the margin was 1-12 to 0-4. The scoring rate in the second half was not as prolific but St. Flannans were unable to make any impression and two late goals by Brian Hurley and sub Luke Ryan ensured a 17 point win for the Limerick amalgamation.
    Castletroy CC 2-13 Gaelcolaiste Mhuire AG 0-18
    In Group 2, one of the games of the round saw Castletroy CC record their second win against the previously undefeated Gaelcolaiste Mhuire AG, winning by 2-13 to 0-18. There was little between the teams in the opening half with Gaelcolaiste Mhuire AG in front until a 23rd minute Andrew La Touche Cosgrove goal ensured the teams would be level at the interval, 1-7 to 0-10. Eoin Hourigan scored Castletroy’s second goal three minutes in to the second half as the Limerick side raced in to a seven point lead. To their credit, Gaelcolaiste Mhuire AG didn’t throw in the towel and with Daithi Braham and Evan O’Siochan in scoring form up front, they dominated the final stages but were unable to find an equaliser as Castletroy held out for a one point victory.
    SNTN Doon 3-17 DLS Waterford 3-10
    In the other game in the group, last year’s finalists SNTN Doon kept their hopes of qualification alive with a 3-17 to 3-10 victory over De La Salle Waterford. Doon led by 1-8 to 0-6 at half-time courtesy of a Colin Ryan goal. Though Ryan would score a second goal early in the second half, De La Salle responded with three goals and heading in to the final 10 minutes, Doon led by a single point. However, Doon finished stronger and a goal from Joe Lonergan helped Doon record a 7 point victory.
    St. Francis Rochestown 1-18 PS Youghal 1-8
    In Group 3, St. Francis Rochestown proved too strong for PS Youghal, winning by 1-18 to 1-8 with man of the match Ciaran Cormack scoring 13 points, 9 from frees. The game was close in the opening stages with Rochestown leading by 0-6 to 0-4 after 20 minutes. However, Youghal dominated the rest of the first half to race in to a 0-13 to 0-6 interval lead.
    Youghal needed a goal to get back in to the game and this arrived on 36 minutes courtesy of substitute Brian Lynch. Despite the goal, Rochestown were still finding point scoring easier and when Shane Kingston scored a Rochestown goal midway through the second half, the result was never in doubt.
    St Caimins Shannon 2-16 Our Ladys Templemore 1-10
    In the other game in this group, St. Caimins Shannon recorded their first win of the campaign when they dominated the final quarter to run out 2-16 to 1-10 winners over Our Ladys Templemore. In a low scoring first half, Caimins recorded the first two scores before Templemore took over, scoring five of the next six points to lead by 0-5 to 0-3 after 18 minutes. Through the accuracy of Aron Shanagher from placed balls, Caimins added four points before the interval to ensure the Shannon team led by 0-7 to 0-6 at half-time. 9 of the 13 first half points came from placed balls with both teams scoring two points each from play.
    St. Caimins scored the first 3 points of the second half to stretch their lead to 0-10 to 0-6. However, with Lyndon Fairbrother in good form up front, Templemore went on a 1-4 to 0-1 run, the goal arriving in the 43rd minute courtesy of Fairbrother to race in to a 1-10 to 0-11 lead heading in the final quarter. Caimins scored the next 2 points to level proceedings until the game changed in the 54th minute. A short line ball for Our Ladys didn’t go to plan and with the Templemore defence out of position, St. Caimins took full advantage to engineer a goal finished by Rory Hayes. A quick Caimins point followed before a long ball by Aron Shanagher found Cathaoir Agnew who dispatched the ball to the Templemore net and effectively ended the game as a contest with the Shannon team adding two late points for good measure. Aron Shanagher top scored for Caimins with 7 pointed frees while Ben O’Connor added four points, 2 from play. Lyndon Fairbrother scored 1-5 for Our Ladys with four points coming from frees.
    Midleton CBS 3-12 Dungarvan CBS 1-11
    In Group 4, Midleton CBS defeated Dungarvan CBS by 3-12 to 1-11. Gary Leahy got Midleton off to a perfect start with an early goal as the Cork side raced in to a seven point lead after 20 minutes. Dungarvan dominated the final stages of the first half with Sean Crotty in good form and by the interval, Midleton’s lead was down to 3, 1-8 to 0-8. Dungarvan dominated the early stages of the second half and despite some early wides, they drew level in the 35th minute when a Darragh Lyons long range free ended up in the Midleton net. Sean Crotty added two further points and Dungarvan now led by 2. Midleton drew level entering the final quarter before the Cork school hit the front again courtesy of a John Looney goal. Midleton never looked back from here with Jack McDonnell adding a third goal to ensure a 7 point victory.
    Hamilton HS Bandon 5-13 HS Clonmel 3-13
    The other game in the group was the highest scoring match of the day with Hamilton HS Bandon defeating HS Clonmel by 5-13 to 3-13

    Good to see the LK schools dominate again.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,098 ✭✭✭Browney7


    Is it the top two in each group that go through and does scoring difference come into play?

    Good to see from a Limerick POV that Doon, Castletroy and West Limerick are being very competitive. Ardscoil and Thurles next week looks like a crucial game.

    What clubs are Flannans picking from now? Are most of east Clare like Clonlara, the bridge and cratloe going to Ardscoil or Camins now? Three very heavy defeats and if Ardscoil need to put up a score they could give them an all merciful hiding.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 9,460 ✭✭✭Orizio


    Caimins players come mainly from Tones Sixmilebridge Newmarket and Cratloe.

    From clare hurlers forum.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 109 ✭✭Breadandbutter


    looking forward to the clash of Ard Acoil and Thurles CBS tomorrow -apparently Billy (?) McCarthy on fire for Thurles of late so hopefully will prove more than an handful for Ard Scoil

    an upset would be interesting

    Ard Scoil have players swarming to them from all over Limerick and parts of Clare and have gotten arrogant last few years

    HonTipp


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,091 ✭✭✭savannahkat


    looking forward to the clash of Ard Acoil and Thurles CBS tomorrow -apparently Billy (?) McCarthy on fire for Thurles of late so hopefully will prove more than an handful for Ard Scoil

    an upset would be interesting

    Ard Scoil have players swarming to them from all over Limerick and parts of Clare and have gotten arrogant last few years

    HonTipp
    Pray tell what have Ard Scoil won to suggest such arrogance on their part.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 109 ✭✭Breadandbutter


    Pray tell what have Ard Scoil won to suggest such arrogance on their part.

    well it's just the bitter word on my part but haven't they won 3 out of the last 5 years - 2 by cricket scores and favorites to win again this year

    And I gather quite unpopular within their own county


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,091 ✭✭✭savannahkat


    It may or may not be true (arrogance )but when you look at where they came from over the past six years there is great credit due to them. There was a time when no one with any hurling ambition would go there. If I am correct in my fast fading memory they would have been known more for rugby six years ago than hurling. They worked hard over a long time to get where they are.


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,967 ✭✭✭✭The Lost Sheep


    It may or may not be true (arrogance )but when you look at where they came from over the past six years there is great credit due to them. There was a time when no one with any hurling ambition would go there. If I am correct in my fast fading memory they would have been known more for rugby six years ago than hurling. They worked hard over a long time to get where they are.
    They would have been more known as a rugby playing school(they are 1 of the top 8 Munster rugby schools) and are A grade in rugby but Hurling has dominated the past 6/7 years though they've had some of their best rugby sides in that time as well.
    Browney7 wrote: »
    Is it the top two in each group that go through and does scoring difference come into play?

    Good to see from a Limerick POV that Doon, Castletroy and West Limerick are being very competitive. Ardscoil and Thurles next week looks like a crucial game.

    What clubs are Flannans picking from now? Are most of east Clare like Clonlara, the bridge and cratloe going to Ardscoil or Camins now? Three very heavy defeats and if Ardscoil need to put up a score they could give them an all merciful hiding.
    I think it is points difference that decides things if teams are level but it should be the winner of game between the two tied sides that decides who goes through
    looking forward to the clash of Ard Acoil and Thurles CBS tomorrow -apparently Billy (?) McCarthy on fire for Thurles of late so hopefully will prove more than an handful for Ard Scoil

    an upset would be interesting

    Ard Scoil have players swarming to them from all over Limerick and parts of Clare and have gotten arrogant last few years

    HonTipp
    Havent really got arrogant. Just confidence from reaching finals - 3 of last 5 - so a level of expectation is in the school for Harty side to reach around that level again


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,402 ✭✭✭shockframe


    well it's just the bitter word on my part but haven't they won 3 out of the last 5 years - 2 by cricket scores and favorites to win again this year

    And I gather quite unpopular within their own county

    Most people within the county I'd imagine are delighted with the progress of ASR given that schools from Limerick hardly featured at all in Harty Cup during the noughties when Rugby took a firm grip of nearly every school in the city and hurling had taken a serious dent in popularity.

    ASR have reversed this trend and more power to them.If only 2 or 3 more schools in the city would follow their example.


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,967 ✭✭✭✭The Lost Sheep


    shockframe wrote: »
    Most people within the county I'd imagine are delighted with the progress of ASR given that schools from Limerick hardly featured at all in Harty Cup during the noughties when Rugby took a firm grip of nearly every school in the city and hurling had taken a serious dent in popularity.

    ASR have reversed this trend and more power to them.If only 2 or 3 more schools in the city would follow their example.
    Rugby would always have had a firm grip on several of the schools in the city would it not?
    Munchins and Crescent would always have been very strong rugby schools and Castletroy rose quickly up ranks in rugby from C to A grades so rugby would have taken up vey much so.
    What other schools in the city do you potentially see following their example?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 109 ✭✭Breadandbutter


    shockframe wrote: »
    Most people within the county I'd imagine are delighted with the progress of ASR given that schools from Limerick hardly featured at all in Harty Cup during the noughties when Rugby took a firm grip of nearly every school in the city and hurling had taken a serious dent in popularity.

    ASR have reversed this trend and more power to them.If only 2 or 3 more schools in the city would follow their example.

    Well they can't, as I gather players coming from all over county, and clare also encouraged to play for them

    It's good absolutely to restore the balance n terms of rugby dominance but Id like to see a different name on cup this year

    Too long since a Cork school won it


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,402 ✭✭✭shockframe


    Rugby would always have had a firm grip on several of the schools in the city would it not?
    Munchins and Crescent would always have been very strong rugby schools and Castletroy rose quickly up ranks in rugby from C to A grades so rugby would have taken up vey much so.
    What other schools in the city do you potentially see following their example?

    Your right about Rugby's place but it became more apparent from 2000-09 when CBS faded and the scene was dormant until ASR led a revival.

    Crescent,Munchins and St Clements all have fairly large numbers so I would view them as being schools that every coach in Limerick should be targeting to get up to a decent standard.Of course Rugby is the main drawback here.

    It's probably not feasible to have them all competing at the same time but given that Hurling hasnt had as high a profile in the city for a long time now would be a great time to get other schools on board.


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