The Walking Dead (Season 5.5) will contain spoilers

badgerhowlin · 03-03-2015 12:20pm

Thats it the episode is ruined for me now. I knew I shouldn't of came looked up this page until after i looked at the episode.

But if that is all that happen in the show what was worth mentioning im glad I can on here 1st........

Poor beard.

Saralee4 · 03-03-2015 12:44pm

rip ricks beard

The Rick shaving scene reminded me so much of the scene where Shane shaves his head in the farm after killing the big bloke (otto?).

In the scene with Shane he has turned a corner and he cant go back. The shaving his head scene is like him accepting who he is and he is coming to the realisation that he is bad.

The scene with rick is that he is going back to who he was even after doing things that he is ashamed of but he has hope that he is good.

The shaving/shower scene with Shane is negative and doomed while with Rick its positive and hopeful but both have a similar feel to them.

MartyMcFly84 · 03-03-2015 3:07pm

rip ricks beard

The Rick shaving scene reminded me so much of the scene where Shane shaves his head in the farm after killing the big bloke (otto?).

In the scene with Shane he has turned a corner and he cant go back. The shaving his head scene is like him accepting who he is and he is coming to the realisation that he is bad.

The scene with rick is that he is going back to who he was even after doing things that he is ashamed of but he has hope that he is good.

The shaving/shower scene with Shane is negative and doomed while with Rick its positive and hopeful but both have a similar feel to them.

I thought the opposite. Like a leopard cant change his spots. That despite the shower , cut and shave Rick is still mentally scarred and even though he looks like he used too he really is not who he used to be.

Saralee4 · 03-03-2015 3:24pm

MartyMcFly84 wrote: »

I thought the opposite. Like a leopard cant change his spots. That despite the shower , cut and shave Rick is still mentally scarred and even though he looks like he used too he really is not who he used to be.

Yea i get that too but he is good deep down right? Like with Shane it was like 'right this is me and I'm only gonna get worse' but with Rick, he's been forced into being something he is not so he's happy to go back even if it is just fantasy or for a short time.

And yea like a leopard cant change his spots, Rick is the nice guy trying to be hard to survive. Shane is a leopard if that makes sense.

MartyMcFly84 · 03-03-2015 4:12pm

I think a lot of it depends on how long someone is "out there".

Shane was out in world (or end of) longer than Rick. Rick was in coma and was saved a lot of the gruesomeness of the evacuations etc.

Shane was already scarred and hardened by the time Rick met up with them.

Later on Rick kills people without remorse, while in season 1/2 his and Shane's relationship fell apart largely due to Shane's willingness to kill for the sake of the group and Rick not being strong enough to do it.

In many ways Rick turns into Shane.

Saralee4 · 03-03-2015 8:34pm

MartyMcFly84 wrote: »

I think a lot of it depends on how long someone is "out there".

Shane was out in world (or end of) longer than Rick. Rick was in coma and was saved a lot of the gruesomeness of the evacuations etc.

Shane was already scarred and hardened by the time Rick met up with them.

Later on Rick kills people without remorse, while in season 1/2 his and Shane's relationship fell apart largely due to Shane's willingness to kill for the sake of the group and Rick not being strong enough to do it.

In many ways Rick turns into Shane.

ah no, that's like saying Daryl and Meryl are the same. :rolleyes:

Seriously though i see what you are saying but Rick is fundamentally good. He wouldn't stoop as low as Shane. He wouldn't have done that to Otto and he wouldnt have harassed Lori like Shane did.

And also we don't really know how long Rick has been in the coma for. We don't know if its possible that someone was looking after him or he was just left (in which case only 3 days he could be left without water) so its possible it might only be 5 days that Shane was 'out there' before Rick is also out there. Rick had his shocks to deal with too, waking up alone to find the world had ended, thought his family were possibly dead and then rediscover them again. Then find out Lori was messing with Shane and he still stood by Shane but Shane wasn't prepared to do the same with Rick and was going to kill him.

I think Rick has learned that he needs to be ruthless obviously we see his comment at the end of this episode about not taking any crap and that they will take over if they have to, but that's the difference between Rick and Shane. Shane would see the opportunity and risk of trusting them and decide to take it over straight away whereas Rick is still himself and is willing to give it a chance beforehand.

bushball · 03-03-2015 11:41pm

Seen as we're on the topic of Shane, was that his glock Rick hid in the woods?
Also anyone else notice Noah with Tyreses gun

Micky Dolenz · 04-03-2015 1:07am

bushball wrote: »

Seen as we're on the topic of Shane, was that his glock Rick hid in the woods?
Also anyone else notice Noah with Tyreses gun

Hadn't that glock have J on the handle?

MartyMcFly84 · 04-03-2015 12:38pm

ah no, that's like saying Daryl and Meryl are the same. :rolleyes:

Seriously though i see what you are saying but Rick is fundamentally good. He wouldn't stoop as low as Shane. He wouldn't have done that to Otto and he wouldnt have harassed Lori like Shane did.

And also we don't really know how long Rick has been in the coma for. We don't know if its possible that someone was looking after him or he was just left (in which case only 3 days he could be left without water) so its possible it might only be 5 days that Shane was 'out there' before Rick is also out there. Rick had his shocks to deal with too, waking up alone to find the world had ended, thought his family were possibly dead and then rediscover them again. Then find out Lori was messing with Shane and he still stood by Shane but Shane wasn't prepared to do the same with Rick and was going to kill him.

We are not told how long Rick was in a coma. However considering whole cities were abandoned, armies and government overrun and all semblance of life as we know it ended, I imagine a considerable amount of time had passed, a lot more than a few days. The out break was well under way while Rick was in a coma, the hospital was getting over run when Shane barricaded him in the room. (He had an IV in so that would extend his time without by water depending on how much was in the IV).

It is mentioned how bad things got during the evacuations and the panic. if you think about it this is when the majority of people in their world would have died.

Saralee4 · 04-03-2015 1:40pm

MartyMcFly84 wrote: »

We are not told how long Rick was in a coma. However considering whole cities were abandoned, armies and government overrun and all semblance of life as we know it ended, I imagine a considerable amount of time had passed, a lot more than a few days. The out break was well under way while Rick was in a coma, the hospital was getting over run when Shane barricaded him in the room. (He had an IV in so that would extend his time without by water depending on how much was in the IV).

It is mentioned how bad things got during the evacuations and the panic. if you think about it this is when the majority of people in their world would have died.

Even if that is the case, Rick today after all he has been through is still a better man than Shane was and I would rather be led by him in a group than Shane. Ricks ability to survive is based on his primal instincts like shane but also his civil and evolved state in that he treats others with respect and listens to others ideas in the group and he is fair but Shane, like a dictator wanted to make all the decisions for the people. That's why Shane is dead and Rick is alive.

Ken. · 04-03-2015 1:45pm

The way I see it rick as a cop before the apocalypse would have let you off for being a few days out of tax. Shane would shoot you for it.

Chip Whitley · 04-03-2015 2:26pm

I don't think Shane was so much of a madman before the outbreak tbf. Sure, he came across as a bit of a jerk, but I don't remember anything crazy being alluded to.

The things that hardened Shane were imo 1. The outbreak, 2. His guilt at leaving Rick/sleeping with Lori, 3. His leadership being questioned when Rick came to the group and 4. Losing Lori (& Carl) back to Rick.

The stuff that came later with Otis etc. was all as a result of the previous stuff. The craziness developed within him, much as it did later with Rick. It just happened quicker and more severely with Shane as he was a jerk to begin with.

ScumLord · 04-03-2015 6:18pm

Zomg Okay wrote: »

In all seriousness, Rick's last line of the episode was chilling.

I like that kind of stuff though, makes them much more balanced and you begin to wonder are they the good guys anymore.

The drama in the show is good but the zombies are really beginning to annoy me, there's a big lack of consistency. They're bones are soft enough that they can stab through bone like it's butter but zombies are still able to overpower people, they're falling apart but in cosmetic ways, all the hard wearing joints are in perfect working order. There's very little thought put into the zombies I think, they're there for scares and nothing else. It's also annoying that they disappear when the plot demands and then appear out of nowhere in numbers when needed. It's more like they're spawning FPS style.

degrassinoel · 05-03-2015 10:01am

Zomg Okay · 06-03-2015 1:24am

This short video is great. No spoilers.

Fallschirmjager · 06-03-2015 8:57pm

I saw the comic Carl had was called wolf fight, I am guessing that's a hint

I could not see the book michonne had, anyone notice it?

degrassinoel · 07-03-2015 1:37am

don't comic book spoil it, but tell me this, is it something to with what was spraypainted in the town where Tyreese was bitten?

"Wolves are near/close" something like that? and the 'W' carved into the dismembered zombies foreheads?

pmasterson95 · 07-03-2015 5:00pm

Comic book is of no use. This is Gimples own creation.

Fallschirmjager · 07-03-2015 9:35pm

degrassinoel wrote: »

don't comic book spoil it, but tell me this, is it something to with what was spraypainted in the town where Tyreese was bitten?

"Wolves are near/close" something like that? and the 'W' carved into the dismembered zombies foreheads?

I meant in the last episode, Carl picked up a comic in the attic, the name of the comic was wolf fight...sorry didn't mean the twd comics

Zomg Okay · 07-03-2015 9:50pm

Fallschirmjager wrote: »

I could not see the book michonne had, anyone notice it?

Yeah, I think it was Crime Without Punishment.

Saralee4 · 09-03-2015 11:19am

MartyMcFly84 wrote: »

I think a lot of it depends on how long someone is "out there".

Shane was out in world (or end of) longer than Rick. Rick was in coma and was saved a lot of the gruesomeness of the evacuations etc.

Shane was already scarred and hardened by the time Rick met up with them.

Later on Rick kills people without remorse, while in season 1/2 his and Shane's relationship fell apart largely due to Shane's willingness to kill for the sake of the group and Rick not being strong enough to do it.

In many ways Rick turns into Shane.

I might have to take back what I said Marty going by the title of this American guy Trevschan2 and his title review video

Spoiler youtube review!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7z7OI3jyN3k

Zomg Okay · 09-03-2015 11:23pm

Of course they killed off the black guy horse. :mad:

degrassinoel · 09-03-2015 11:32pm

Buttons

Barna77 · 09-03-2015 11:48pm

Hardcore Carol! Talk about cookie monster

Daryl and Aaron, bromance of the forest

Zomg Okay · 09-03-2015 11:55pm

That foreshadowing though...

Zomg Okay · 10-03-2015 12:21am

Barna77 wrote: »

Hardcore Carol! Talk about cookie monster

Yeah... Christ, listening to her in that scene was one of the scariest things in the whole damn series.

Serious "Carol is the stuff your nightmares wake up screaming about" stuff.

degrassinoel · 10-03-2015 12:45am

She'd probably be dead if it werent for her abusive dickhead husband too

That poor stupid sweet man!

Carol's the best

bushball · 16-03-2015 9:49pm

Well...

They killed the guy right after developing his character some some more again.
Decent episode, really mad that Noah is gone, thought Glenn would sacrifice the other guy. They certainly brought back the gore in episodes

Zomg Okay · 16-03-2015 11:37pm

That episode was ****ing heavy. Jesus.

degrassinoel · 16-03-2015 11:47pm

That was a bit horrific alright, i think it had to go that way otherwise

Glen would have gotten the blame for yer man being an eejit and blowing himself up.

I reckon with what

the preacher said and what happened at the warehouse, attitudes from everyone are going to be in a steep decline for Rick's group. The Doctor guy is a douchebag too

, Carol sussed him straight off

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